Skip to comments.Wisconsin Democrat says return to Capitol unlikely (RAT Fleas all warm and cozy)
Posted on 02/20/2011 9:19:31 AM PST by Libloather
Wis. Democrat says return to Capitol unlikely
Associated Press - February 20, 2011 11:45 AM ET
MADISON, Wis. (AP) - A Wisconsin senator says he does not believe Senate Democrats will return to work unless Gov. Scott Walker shows a willingness to negotiate on his plan to effectively eliminate union rights for most public employees.
Sen. Jon Erpenbach of Middleton said Sunday he remains at a Chicago hotel. He says Senate Democrats scattered outside of Wisconsin had a conference call Saturday night and remain united in their tactic to try to slow down the bill.
He says unions agreed to make concessions on health care and pension benefits and now it's time for Walker to back off his plan to take away their ability to collectively bargain for benefits and working conditions.
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had a conference call Saturday night
That could be considered illegal.
Sounds to me like they’ve resigned their positions.
In my state WA if you are missing from your job for four consecutive days without any notice, you are considered to have abandoned your job. It is time to call for a special election to replace these bums.
No quorum requirement on non-financial bills.
This should be the schedule of votes starting tomorrow.
Mon - Voter ID law
Tuesday - Right to Work ammendment
Wednesday - Concealed Carry bill
Thursday - tough immigration bill
Friday - pro-life ammendment
Ball is in their court :)
A conference call that violates the sunshine laws.
But then that’s what the left is all about. Their own set of laws that apply only to themselves.
The Flee-Baggers are cowards.
the same unions that would not talk to Walker at all in DECEMBER....the same DECEMBER where the same unions and the Lame duck Dems tried to abuse Special Session rules with a corrupt attempt to pillage the TAX PAYERS of WI????
THE SAME ONES now cry victim of abusive power?
So what, the DNC has been AWOL for 30 yrs. Bet some are looking at a permenant vacation next election.
PRay for America
LOL! Hadn’t seen that one yet! :)
You are correct. The only thing the Left understands is power and strength. Then when confronted, they recoil and howl. I’d really like to see the Wisconsin senate follow your suggestion.
By any means necessary.
bump to the top
Yup. Put the blade down, step on the gas, ram it to the moon. Screw ‘em.
Governor Walker should announce that if they are not back by Tuesday, they will be considered to have constructively resigned from office and that a date for a special election to fill the vacancies they created would then be set.
Can they offer a bounty on them?
From the WI constitution:
Meeting of legislature. SECTION 11. The legislature shall meet at the seat of government at such time as shall be provided by law...
Organization of legislature; quorum; compulsory attendance. SECTION 7.
Each house shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members; and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business, but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may compel the attendance of absent members in such manner and under such penalties as each house may provide.
Rules; contempts; expulsion. SECTION 8.
Each house may determine the rules of its own proceedings, punish for contempt and disorderly behavior, and with the concurrence of two−thirds of all the members elected, expel a member;
Recalls have been initiated in several of their districts, so hopefully by Monday it will be all of them. Tomorrow could be a very productive day in Wisconsin for non-fiscal issues.
While they’re enjoying their stay at a resort in a neighboring state, 12,000 public employees that the legislators profess to care about will suffer layoffs due to the budget crisis that the runaway senators helped create.
End of problem.
On Monday Governor Walker should issue an executive order closing a dozen of the state agencies IMMEDIATELY and permanently. And have the police there to prevent vandalism. Then those ex-employees can go to Illinois on vacation.
They should be charged with conspiracy to defraud the state of Wisconsin. Warrants should be issued for their arrest. Rewards for their return should be offered and let the bounty hunters go after them.
I may be wrong, but I understand the WI senate and assembly need a quarum to vote on fiscal legislation, but only a simple majority for other legislation. The WI senate has stated it will be back in session tuesday to address other matters.
If so, why can’t they strip out the collective bargaining portion of the contested legislation and vote on it as a stand-alone bill? Would it qualify as a non fiscal bill?
Good one. Ping for a graphic (maybe)..........Something like the Gone with the Wind scene with the Carpet Baggers on the road in a carriage next to soldiers trudging home?
Who’s footing the bill for the gutless wonders’ food, lodging, and transpo?
Then send out the State Police to drag them back and chain them to their desks. If you feel charitable, allow them to change into a pair of Depends.
Is there a law against obstructing the Legislature like there are laws against obstruction of Congress? Seems to me these guys have either forfeited their jobs or they are engaging in criminal activity.
“Mon - Voter ID law
Tuesday - Right to Work ammendment
Wednesday - Concealed Carry bill
Thursday - tough immigration bill
Friday - pro-life ammendment”
With a majority, they should be doing this anyway.
I knew several of them because I was a very good friends (wink wink, nod nod) with the daughter of one of these clowns while I was in high school. I used to go over to her house a lot. Most weekends the Democrats were having parties at her dads house. They were the biggest bunch of drunks I have ever been around. They would all get blasted and boast about how they were getting rich doing this or that. They were a gang of thieves. And a bit kinky if I believe some of the stories about what went on after a night of partying and swimming in the pool.
At the time I was 17 and I was mainly impressed by them because they did not care of we drank along with them. The one senators daughter I was seeing was pretty hot. The liberal puke would have had a cow if he knew what I was up to with her. Decorum does not permit and more info. on that:)
I believe that people that become Democrats are mentally challenged. They are simply not wired right. Which is why the join up with queers and other misfit retards. They are all birds of a feather. The weirder the better.
They are pretty lazy people too. which is why they gravitate to unions. I mean really, who wants to work when you can get a lot of money for doing little or nothing.
After the last election cycle I had some savvy political heads I know upset that Reid and others were not thrown out. It was as if things did not go all that well. My response to that was that it was a huge victory in the House but maybe more importantly the absolutely amazing sea change in local and state races. I said this is where we are going to see big things happen. From the bottom up. And that is what is happening in Wisconsin and other places. Fueled by the Tea Party the local parasites that I describe above are going to have their sweet deals interrupted. It is so cool to see the union thugs get theirs. This is going to expand and more and more locals who now include smart people from the Tea Party are going to take the money back. We hear about taking the country back and whatnot but it is the money that counts. It will be fun to watch!
Yes, but it will force the Dems hand.
Stay away if you like, but we’re getting on with the business of the State.
Around 1950, the USSR left the UN in a huff about something. The US promptly passed a resolution having the UN defend South Korea from the commies. When the Soviets came back, they couldn't do anything about it, because the US had a veto. As a result, the Korean war was a UN operation.
This is a similar situation.
They should just start impeachment proceedings against all 14.
What remains to be seen (among other things) is if the WI Senate has the guts to do EXACTLY as you indicate. A very solid and doable idea. Well said.
That’s pocket change for the SEIU.
They ran away to join the Flee Circus.
It only takes a majority to have a quorum under the state constitution. The state senate has probably passed its own rule that a quorum for budget matters requires 20 out of 33. The Senate is the judge of its own rules and may pass its own rules. The Senate could therefore change its quorum rule on budget matters with a majority present.
On expulsion, that would not be possible without 2/3 vote of all the members, not just those present. With 33 members, that would require 22 votes, so it's not in the cards for now. However, if Wisconsin has a recall statute, they ought to gear it up.
Okay, why not just say “I’ll negotiate.” Then when they walk into the chamber have the state police lock the doors and say “I’ve changed my mind.”
Exactly. Love it! bttt
Get rid of them. They either need to resign or be recalled.
Great letter! bttt
Refuse to give them a paycheck.
The communist union members in their district would simply re-elect them or elect ones more liberal.
The solution is have them arrested. Or, vote without them. In order to raise hell they’d have to come back.
So set the special election to take place months from now. During those months, pass every piece of legislation that you never could if the Cowardcrats were there.
I heard that this is a special session just to concider the bill in question. To strip the financial provisions out, would void the reason the session was called in the first place. They cannot do it in this session. But they could just call the whole thing off, and wait until the regular session, thus handing the unions a voictory. As I gather it, may be wrong.
Whos footing the bill for the gutless wonders food, lodging, and transpo?
Donations. Is a thread ealier this AM about this. Is legal apparently. $100K raised so far, or $7100 for each of the 14 fleebaggers.
Karl Denninger, meanwhile, is pointing out the meaning of Obamas Organizing for America being involved in the Madison teachers revolt:
Im going to draw the line between the word sedition and the act of seditious conspiracy; the latter is a federal offense. At least today, that line may still apply. It may be true, however, that as facts develop we will discover that this line has been crossed.
Read it all here. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=180433
H/T to buddylarsen in his comment at http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2011/02/18/egypt-in-america/#comment-145012