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Wisconsin Democrat says return to Capitol unlikely (RAT Fleas all warm and cozy)
WXOW ^ | 2/20/11

Posted on 02/20/2011 9:19:31 AM PST by Libloather

Wis. Democrat says return to Capitol unlikely
Associated Press - February 20, 2011 11:45 AM ET

MADISON, Wis. (AP) - A Wisconsin senator says he does not believe Senate Democrats will return to work unless Gov. Scott Walker shows a willingness to negotiate on his plan to effectively eliminate union rights for most public employees.

Sen. Jon Erpenbach of Middleton said Sunday he remains at a Chicago hotel. He says Senate Democrats scattered outside of Wisconsin had a conference call Saturday night and remain united in their tactic to try to slow down the bill.

**SNIP**

He says unions agreed to make concessions on health care and pension benefits and now it's time for Walker to back off his plan to take away their ability to collectively bargain for benefits and working conditions.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrat; dnccorruption; fleas; fleebaggers; madison; notaxes4dnc; ricoignored; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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Wow. Can they stay away, like, forever? Just how cool is that?

had a conference call Saturday night

That could be considered illegal.

1 posted on 02/20/2011 9:19:32 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Sounds to me like they’ve resigned their positions.


2 posted on 02/20/2011 9:20:43 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

In my state WA if you are missing from your job for four consecutive days without any notice, you are considered to have abandoned your job. It is time to call for a special election to replace these bums.


3 posted on 02/20/2011 9:22:37 AM PST by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: Libloather

4 posted on 02/20/2011 9:22:52 AM PST by cranked
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To: Libloather

No quorum requirement on non-financial bills.

This should be the schedule of votes starting tomorrow.

Mon - Voter ID law
Tuesday - Right to Work ammendment
Wednesday - Concealed Carry bill
Thursday - tough immigration bill
Friday - pro-life ammendment

Ball is in their court :)


5 posted on 02/20/2011 9:23:11 AM PST by MNlurker
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To: Libloather

A conference call that violates the sunshine laws.

But then that’s what the left is all about. Their own set of laws that apply only to themselves.


6 posted on 02/20/2011 9:24:10 AM PST by Carley (WISCONSIN STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: Libloather

Fleebaggers.


7 posted on 02/20/2011 9:24:32 AM PST by Freddd
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To: Libloather

The Flee-Baggers are cowards.


8 posted on 02/20/2011 9:25:27 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Libloather

the same unions that would not talk to Walker at all in DECEMBER....the same DECEMBER where the same unions and the Lame duck Dems tried to abuse Special Session rules with a corrupt attempt to pillage the TAX PAYERS of WI????

THE SAME ONES now cry victim of abusive power?


9 posted on 02/20/2011 9:26:48 AM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: Libloather

So what, the DNC has been AWOL for 30 yrs. Bet some are looking at a permenant vacation next election.

PRay for America


10 posted on 02/20/2011 9:26:59 AM PST by bray (Vote Palin to make heads explode on both sides of the aisle.)
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To: Freddd

“Fleebaggers.”

LOL! Hadn’t seen that one yet! :)


11 posted on 02/20/2011 9:28:36 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: MNlurker

You are correct. The only thing the Left understands is power and strength. Then when confronted, they recoil and howl. I’d really like to see the Wisconsin senate follow your suggestion.


12 posted on 02/20/2011 9:28:49 AM PST by glennaro
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To: Libloather
Walker has to clear out the Capitol, and he has to do it soon.

By any means necessary.

13 posted on 02/20/2011 9:28:53 AM PST by Jim Noble (House GOP: If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.)
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To: Libloather

bump to the top


14 posted on 02/20/2011 9:29:47 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: MNlurker

Yup. Put the blade down, step on the gas, ram it to the moon. Screw ‘em.


15 posted on 02/20/2011 9:29:55 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: cripplecreek
Sounds to me like they’ve resigned their positions.

Governor Walker should announce that if they are not back by Tuesday, they will be considered to have constructively resigned from office and that a date for a special election to fill the vacancies they created would then be set.

16 posted on 02/20/2011 9:30:02 AM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Libloather

Can they offer a bounty on them?


17 posted on 02/20/2011 9:30:14 AM PST by The Brush
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To: timestax
Of the 14 DemonRat senators, only 2 of them have actually been,seen,getting into a CAR, as per the you tube clip by the Freepers. I would bet that not all 14 are hiding, but that some of them have slipped home, or never left to begin with. THEY are HIDING at their homes, in the basements.. That's what I read in somebodies blog. The ones that are AWOL are no doubt using Wisconsin Senate credit cards . This should be investigated right now. Not three years from now!
18 posted on 02/20/2011 9:30:44 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Libloather
This is way outside constitutional bounds. Wisconsin constitution, that is.

From the WI constitution:

Meeting of legislature. SECTION 11. The legislature shall meet at the seat of government at such time as shall be provided by law...

Organization of legislature; quorum; compulsory attendance. SECTION 7.

Each house shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members; and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business, but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may compel the attendance of absent members in such manner and under such penalties as each house may provide.

Rules; contempts; expulsion. SECTION 8.

Each house may determine the rules of its own proceedings, punish for contempt and disorderly behavior, and with the concurrence of two−thirds of all the members elected, expel a member;

19 posted on 02/20/2011 9:32:57 AM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Libloather

Recalls have been initiated in several of their districts, so hopefully by Monday it will be all of them. Tomorrow could be a very productive day in Wisconsin for non-fiscal issues.


20 posted on 02/20/2011 9:33:25 AM PST by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: Libloather

While they’re enjoying their stay at a resort in a neighboring state, 12,000 public employees that the legislators profess to care about will suffer layoffs due to the budget crisis that the runaway senators helped create.


21 posted on 02/20/2011 9:34:48 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Libloather
Cancel their govt. issued credit cards for starters. Allow for an emergency vote to replace them.

End of problem.

22 posted on 02/20/2011 9:35:53 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Libloather
My email to the Winconsin Flea Circus FLEE CAUCUS...

TO: Sen.Carpenter@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Cullen@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Coggs@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Erpenbach@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Hansen@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Holperin@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Jauch@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Larson@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Lassa@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Lassa@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Risser@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Taylor@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Miller@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Vinehout@legis.wisconsin.gov; Sen.Wirch@legis.wisconsin.gov

To the Wisconsin fourteen;

In my 65 years on this planet, I have seen a lot of losers elected to various offices, from local to National. As a young democrat - until Jimmy Carter came along, that is - I looked at our leaders with respect and reverence as the people who represent me in this great country. People who would do their job, no matter what, because they took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, both state and National.

But at some point, democrats thought they saw a better way to do things; dems adopted things I learned about as traits of socialists and communist when I was living through the Cold War years. Somehow - all of a sudden - America wasn't good enough for these people who were migrating to the left. However, hidden under their ideals and brave talk was the same ol, same ol'...the simple, lecherous quest for power.

You fourteen have epitomized that bit of history in choosing to cash in what little integrity you possess and any remaining respect by acting not like fourteen Senators, but like Fourteen-year-old kids not getting their way. You were voted into the minority in November, but instead of keeping your heads high and representing the people it integrity and leadership, you chose to tuck your tails and run. You're bullies when you're in power, and cowards when you're not.

Probably using your State credit card, taxpayer money, you chose to run and hide, even with the prospect that if you don't return for the vote on the Budget bill, the Governor will have no choice but to have mass layoffs (12,000 according to a story by the AP) of your union friends because he is going to balance the budget, one way or another. So even though you think you are fighting the "brave fight", you are really just hiding and handing your supporters over to the unemployment office to save losing a few concessions that the rest of the country pays in stride. How stupid is that?

National elections of people like Al Franken shows us all that intelligence is really not a prerequisite to getting elected to office, and your little runaway stunt is right up there for the "Al Franken Hall Of Fame" award.

But there will be more elections, and while I realize those of you from majority democrat districts couldn't lose if you molested a 2-year-old - liberal scruples being what they are - some of you will still lose, and all of you will be loathed by a good number of people, but all of you will be remembered, in a bad way, of course.

For those of you who see your little game as a "tactic"...being a coward is never a tactic; you'll be remembered as those who ran away when adversity knocked. You're the moral equivalent to children who hold their breath until they get their way.

You all actually belong in the hall of SHAME for your little stunt; there is one thing about "swing voters", they actually look at what you do and say based on its merit, and they're watching this little game very closely. The hard left will always vote for you as they are like union people - with whom merit doesn't count, only blind party loyalty based on how many free handouts you vote in.

You were voted into the minority in the last election, and it's going to be even worse for you in 2012. This action has pretty much sealed your fate as democrats all over the country are figuring out the new left and switching sides. Paraphrasing an old saying, "You made your beds, now you have to lie in them.".

We'll be over here on the right, laughing our asses off at you. Personally I'd like to see all of you booted out of office in disgrace, and people are right now investigating the possibilities of such actions. But because we have such a great country and state, you'll probably skate by, at least until 2012.

You can run, but you can't hide.

Sincerely,

23 posted on 02/20/2011 9:42:38 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Libloather

On Monday Governor Walker should issue an executive order closing a dozen of the state agencies IMMEDIATELY and permanently. And have the police there to prevent vandalism. Then those ex-employees can go to Illinois on vacation.


24 posted on 02/20/2011 9:43:00 AM PST by ProudFossil
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To: Libloather

They should be charged with conspiracy to defraud the state of Wisconsin. Warrants should be issued for their arrest. Rewards for their return should be offered and let the bounty hunters go after them.


25 posted on 02/20/2011 9:44:07 AM PST by Will we know the moment
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To: Libloather

I may be wrong, but I understand the WI senate and assembly need a quarum to vote on fiscal legislation, but only a simple majority for other legislation. The WI senate has stated it will be back in session tuesday to address other matters.

If so, why can’t they strip out the collective bargaining portion of the contested legislation and vote on it as a stand-alone bill? Would it qualify as a non fiscal bill?


26 posted on 02/20/2011 9:44:26 AM PST by umgud
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To: Freddd; cripplecreek; FrankR

Fleebaggers.

Good one. Ping for a graphic (maybe)..........Something like the Gone with the Wind scene with the Carpet Baggers on the road in a carriage next to soldiers trudging home?


27 posted on 02/20/2011 9:45:34 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Libloather

Who’s footing the bill for the gutless wonders’ food, lodging, and transpo?


28 posted on 02/20/2011 9:46:20 AM PST by mewzilla (Hey, Schumer, your Lockerbie report left quite a bit out.)
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To: MNlurker

Right on!

Then send out the State Police to drag them back and chain them to their desks. If you feel charitable, allow them to change into a pair of Depends.


29 posted on 02/20/2011 9:47:05 AM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: cripplecreek
Sounds to me like they’ve resigned their positions.

Is there a law against obstructing the Legislature like there are laws against obstruction of Congress? Seems to me these guys have either forfeited their jobs or they are engaging in criminal activity.

30 posted on 02/20/2011 9:48:10 AM PST by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: MNlurker

“Mon - Voter ID law
Tuesday - Right to Work ammendment
Wednesday - Concealed Carry bill
Thursday - tough immigration bill
Friday - pro-life ammendment”

With a majority, they should be doing this anyway.


31 posted on 02/20/2011 9:50:11 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The way to beat a terrorist is to terrorize him.)
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To: Libloather
When I was a kid the the same thing happened here in Texas. A group of Dems. head for the hills.

I knew several of them because I was a very good friends (wink wink, nod nod) with the daughter of one of these clowns while I was in high school. I used to go over to her house a lot. Most weekends the Democrats were having parties at her dads house. They were the biggest bunch of drunks I have ever been around. They would all get blasted and boast about how they were getting rich doing this or that. They were a gang of thieves. And a bit kinky if I believe some of the stories about what went on after a night of partying and swimming in the pool.

At the time I was 17 and I was mainly impressed by them because they did not care of we drank along with them. The one senators daughter I was seeing was pretty hot. The liberal puke would have had a cow if he knew what I was up to with her. Decorum does not permit and more info. on that:)

I believe that people that become Democrats are mentally challenged. They are simply not wired right. Which is why the join up with queers and other misfit retards. They are all birds of a feather. The weirder the better.

They are pretty lazy people too. which is why they gravitate to unions. I mean really, who wants to work when you can get a lot of money for doing little or nothing.

After the last election cycle I had some savvy political heads I know upset that Reid and others were not thrown out. It was as if things did not go all that well. My response to that was that it was a huge victory in the House but maybe more importantly the absolutely amazing sea change in local and state races. I said this is where we are going to see big things happen. From the bottom up. And that is what is happening in Wisconsin and other places. Fueled by the Tea Party the local parasites that I describe above are going to have their sweet deals interrupted. It is so cool to see the union thugs get theirs. This is going to expand and more and more locals who now include smart people from the Tea Party are going to take the money back. We hear about taking the country back and whatnot but it is the money that counts. It will be fun to watch!

32 posted on 02/20/2011 9:53:07 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Yes, but it will force the Dems hand.

Stay away if you like, but we’re getting on with the business of the State.


33 posted on 02/20/2011 9:53:45 AM PST by MNlurker
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To: MNlurker
Spread that strategy far and wide. It is brilliant.

Around 1950, the USSR left the UN in a huff about something. The US promptly passed a resolution having the UN defend South Korea from the commies. When the Soviets came back, they couldn't do anything about it, because the US had a veto. As a result, the Korean war was a UN operation.

This is a similar situation.

34 posted on 02/20/2011 9:54:21 AM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: BillT
I'm sure there are laws regarding removal of corrupt elected officials, like impeachment.

They should just start impeachment proceedings against all 14.

35 posted on 02/20/2011 9:58:12 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: umgud
It certainly would. No state monies are involved at all.

What remains to be seen (among other things) is if the WI Senate has the guts to do EXACTLY as you indicate. A very solid and doable idea. Well said.

36 posted on 02/20/2011 9:58:39 AM PST by SAJ (Saddened)
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To: mewzilla

That’s pocket change for the SEIU.


37 posted on 02/20/2011 9:59:56 AM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They ran away to join the Flee Circus.


38 posted on 02/20/2011 10:04:30 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: C210N
From your post, I draw 2 conclusions:

It only takes a majority to have a quorum under the state constitution. The state senate has probably passed its own rule that a quorum for budget matters requires 20 out of 33. The Senate is the judge of its own rules and may pass its own rules. The Senate could therefore change its quorum rule on budget matters with a majority present.

On expulsion, that would not be possible without 2/3 vote of all the members, not just those present. With 33 members, that would require 22 votes, so it's not in the cards for now. However, if Wisconsin has a recall statute, they ought to gear it up.

39 posted on 02/20/2011 10:04:37 AM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: MNlurker

bttt


40 posted on 02/20/2011 10:07:59 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: Libloather

Okay, why not just say “I’ll negotiate.” Then when they walk into the chamber have the state police lock the doors and say “I’ve changed my mind.”


41 posted on 02/20/2011 10:07:59 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: Freddd
"Fleebaggers."

Exactly. Love it! bttt

42 posted on 02/20/2011 10:09:48 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: Libloather

Get rid of them. They either need to resign or be recalled.


43 posted on 02/20/2011 10:11:28 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: FrankR

Great letter! bttt


44 posted on 02/20/2011 10:13:52 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: Libloather

Refuse to give them a paycheck.


45 posted on 02/20/2011 10:15:12 AM PST by cblue55 (Envisioning when all that is left is the right.)
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To: BillT

The communist union members in their district would simply re-elect them or elect ones more liberal.

The solution is have them arrested. Or, vote without them. In order to raise hell they’d have to come back.


46 posted on 02/20/2011 10:17:27 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross
The communist union members in their district would simply re-elect them or elect ones more liberal.

So set the special election to take place months from now. During those months, pass every piece of legislation that you never could if the Cowardcrats were there.

47 posted on 02/20/2011 10:30:11 AM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: umgud

I heard that this is a special session just to concider the bill in question. To strip the financial provisions out, would void the reason the session was called in the first place. They cannot do it in this session. But they could just call the whole thing off, and wait until the regular session, thus handing the unions a voictory. As I gather it, may be wrong.


48 posted on 02/20/2011 10:35:42 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: mewzilla

Who’s footing the bill for the gutless wonders’ food, lodging, and transpo?

Donations. Is a thread ealier this AM about this. Is legal apparently. $100K raised so far, or $7100 for each of the 14 fleebaggers.


49 posted on 02/20/2011 10:38:16 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Libloather

Karl Denninger, meanwhile, is pointing out the meaning of Obama’s “Organizing for America’ being involved in the Madison teacher’s revolt:

I’m going to draw the line between the word sedition and the act of seditious conspiracy; the latter is a federal offense. At least today, that line may still apply. It may be true, however, that as facts develop we will discover that this line has been crossed.

Read it all here. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=180433
H/T to buddylarsen in his comment at http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2011/02/18/egypt-in-america/#comment-145012


50 posted on 02/20/2011 10:40:01 AM PST by anglian
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