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The Illinois Pension Nightmare ($3.7 Billion needed to pay for just one year!)
Economic Policy Journal ^ | 02/18/2011 | Economic Policy Journal

Posted on 02/20/2011 1:27:48 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

The state of Illinois hopes to issue $3.7 billion in bonds, next week. The funds will be used to pay this year's pension payments.

Writes NYT, which is starting to get the picture of the serious problems in the muni market:

(Excerpt) Read more at economicpolicyjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: illinois; patquinn; pensions; publicsectorunions; wisconsinshowdown
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1 posted on 02/20/2011 1:27:53 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

People are crazy enough to buy these bonds?


2 posted on 02/20/2011 1:30:12 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Once you start borrowing to pay your operating costs - and current payments to pension beneficiaries are operating costs, not capital costs - you are sunk.


3 posted on 02/20/2011 1:30:50 PM PST by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

And, what State did our infamous pResident come from? Suppose he’ll bail them out?


4 posted on 02/20/2011 1:31:41 PM PST by goodnesswins (I'm not a great man....I just believe in great ideas! Ronald Reagan)
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To: pnh102
It is one thing to "issue bonds," It is another thing to find a greater fool willing to buy them.
5 posted on 02/20/2011 1:31:45 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

What sane person would purchase these bonds?How high will the interest rate have to be to attract buyers?


6 posted on 02/20/2011 1:32:17 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

That’s nothing! The Idiot Governor if Illinois, the disHonorable Patrick J. Quinn, wants to borrow ANOTHER $4.7 BILLION to pay off debts owed to Illinois cities, towns, and schools!

I kid you not! Here’s proof:

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/politics&id=7328151

Well why not, he hasn’t got Bernanke’s printing press but he has all the same attitudes. At least the Republican minority has been able to keep this from happening so far.

But just wait. Just like with T-bills, all it’s going to take to bring the house of cards down is two words:

Failed. Auction.


7 posted on 02/20/2011 1:37:19 PM PST by bigbob (-)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Ya....

Even Kevin Bacon ain't gonna be able to get the aftermath of this under control....

8 posted on 02/20/2011 1:37:40 PM PST by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Seems like they need a governor like Wisconsin has.


9 posted on 02/20/2011 1:39:00 PM PST by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

another liberal state about to blow up


10 posted on 02/20/2011 1:39:13 PM PST by phockthis
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To: Farmer Dean

It is over for IL and maybe America. No one will buy those bonds. Illinois is not a huge coal state.

They have enough coal that if they made coal diesel at about $35 a barrel - they would have more oil than Saudi Arabia. $3.7 billion would be chicken feed.

One phone call to a company like Sasol and they could get started but the union thugs and Saudi-financed environmentalists would never let it happen.


11 posted on 02/20/2011 1:41:35 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

lol...the nation that lost its mind..what bright bulb agreed to this..oops! nevermind.


12 posted on 02/20/2011 1:43:21 PM PST by dalebert
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I keep hearing about these six figure pensions that public people expect to draw.

And many will, if not most.

Heck I DON’T MAKE SIX FIGURES DOING MY REGULAR JOB!!!


13 posted on 02/20/2011 1:43:37 PM PST by djf (Sometimes you are The Old Man and the Sea. But most times, you are the fish!!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

The icing on the cake will be when Carol Mosely-Braun becomes Mayor of Chicago.


14 posted on 02/20/2011 1:45:25 PM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: pnh102
People are crazy enough to buy these bonds?

Money managers think you're crazy not to. Team Obama has ways of making a compelling case to somebody whose entire reason for living is to generate a basis point over treasuries.

15 posted on 02/20/2011 1:45:33 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (talk to the hand)
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To: pnh102
"People are crazy enough to buy these bonds?"

The federal government is.

16 posted on 02/20/2011 1:47:10 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Foolsgold

I don’t think anyone can save Illinois now. Chicago is too corrupt and too powerful.


17 posted on 02/20/2011 1:47:19 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: the invisib1e hand

If the Fed doesn’t buy these bonds, it is going to scare states on what kind of junk bond rates they will bring.


18 posted on 02/20/2011 1:47:59 PM PST by scooby321
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To: Oceander
Once you start borrowing to pay your operating costs - and current payments to pension beneficiaries are operating costs, not capital costs - you are sunk.

Once government is thought of as the proprietor of wealth we all are sunk.

We are rearranging deck chairs presently.

19 posted on 02/20/2011 1:48:10 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: pnh102

Bernake to the rescue. They will find a way.


20 posted on 02/20/2011 1:48:37 PM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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