Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Libya: US accuses Britain of legitimising Gaddafi
The Telegraph ^ | 2/20/2011 | John Bingham

Posted on 02/20/2011 11:55:44 PM PST by bruinbirdman

US government has accused Britain of legitimising the Gaddafi regime after the massacre of hundreds of pro-democracy demonstrators in Libya.

Louis Susman, the US ambassador to London, suggested moves to repair relations with the Libyan dictator had only served to give him "greater stature" on the world stage while campaigners condemned the rapprochement as a failure.

Mr Susman said: “I would suggest that to deal with him, to give him greater stature, greater ability on the world front to look like he is a good citizen is a mistake.”

Up to 300 demonstrators are thought to have been killed after forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi attacked them with sniper fire, knives, heavy artillery.

The eastern city of Benghazi was said to be in a state of “civil mutiny” after forces, believed to be African mercenaries, attacked crowds attending mass burials of the dead from earlier violence.

The unrest, which follows the overthrow of the rulers of neighbouring Tunisia and Egypt and protests in Bahrain, was reported to have spread to several other Libyan cities last night.

Downing Street said David Cameron was “gravely concerned by reports of escalating violence and large numbers of civilian deaths”. “We condemn any use of force by the Libyan authorities against peaceful protesters. Such repression is unacceptable, counterproductive and wrong,” said a statement. “The Libyan government must listen to the views of its people and respond to them.”

William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, voiced his concerns in a telephone call to Gaddafi’s British-educated son, Saif.

“The world should not hesitate to condemn those actions," he said.

“What Col Gaddafi should be doing is respecting basic human rights, and there is no sign of that in the dreadful response, the horrifying response, of the Libyan authorities to these protests.”

The Libyan ambassador

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: libya; lockerbie; maddog

1 posted on 02/20/2011 11:55:47 PM PST by bruinbirdman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

What’s one more insult to our regrettably “former” friends across the pond?

Make it stop!


2 posted on 02/20/2011 11:59:04 PM PST by dixiechick2000 ("First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

I bet the infestors of the White House are wondering why they didn’t get an invite to the biggest international social event of the past 40 years. The Royal wedding of Prince William.

I am certain they don’t get it at all.

They aren’t smart enough to get it.


3 posted on 02/21/2011 12:02:06 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

Mr. Susman, sensing that his distraction statement did not have it’s full desired effect, then pointed wildly under a couch and exclaimed “Look at the size of that cat !”


4 posted on 02/21/2011 12:02:22 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Danae

Is that for real? God is good.


5 posted on 02/21/2011 12:04:17 AM PST by bronxville (Herman Cain/Alan West 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Danae
I bet the infestors of the White House are wondering why they didn’t get an invite to the biggest international social event of the past 40 years. The Royal wedding of Prince William.

Well their foreign policy has been to cycle all our old enemies into friends and our former friends into frenemies. I guess frenemies aren't invited to the wedding.
6 posted on 02/21/2011 12:04:37 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

Obama’s silence on Libya is embarrassing and unsurprising.


7 posted on 02/21/2011 12:04:55 AM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

I wonder what’s really going on with this story. I don’t get it.


8 posted on 02/21/2011 12:06:02 AM PST by bronxville (Herman Cain/Alan West 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dixiechick2000
"What’s one more insult . . . "

Someone didn't get an invitation to the wedding.

yitbos

9 posted on 02/21/2011 12:07:38 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Judges Gone Wild

Obama is history in the NOT making. What a fool...

Much concern by those who do care...price of oil shooting up with all this unrest...and fear Saudi Arabia uprising could really damage things worldwide. Not to mention the Muslim leaders now planning to merge their countries into one power block. This stuff is going to change many things and not for the good in the long run or short.


10 posted on 02/21/2011 12:08:28 AM PST by caww
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Judges Gone Wild

BTW Bengazi is now in the hands of the protesters and military...who joined them. Tripoli next.


11 posted on 02/21/2011 12:10:16 AM PST by caww
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

“Someone didn’t get an invitation to the wedding.”

Oh, yeah...that completely slipped my mind.

“Thin-skinned”...why do those words keep popping up? ;o)


12 posted on 02/21/2011 12:15:20 AM PST by dixiechick2000 ("First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

The Labor government of Gordon Brown made the deal with Libya to return the Lockerbee terrorist for oil, so the US does have a point.


13 posted on 02/21/2011 12:23:49 AM PST by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman
Uh, Iran...........

:}

14 posted on 02/21/2011 12:32:33 AM PST by AwesomePossum (I have never looked this forward to a November II........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Danae

Given the Obamas track record on gifts to Britain, Kate and William were afraid theirs would be ticking.


15 posted on 02/21/2011 12:43:58 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
The Labor government of Gordon Brown made the deal with Libya to return the Lockerbee terrorist for oil, so the US does have a point.

Exactly. Cameron needs to denounce it, but he can't because of the oil deal.

16 posted on 02/21/2011 12:45:42 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

Let’s make something very clear in this thread:
It was not Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and the front bench who forced the rapprochement with Gaddafi.

It was British, British-American, American, Italian, Dutch, French, Spanish, Canadian, Swiss, Norwegian, German and Austrian energy interests, and the military and state intelligence apparatus of European and North American countries, that required the energy supply from Libya to keep the lights on in Western Europe.

Thatcher, Major, Blair and Brown were but butlers running errands for these interests.


17 posted on 02/21/2011 12:58:38 AM PST by JerseyHighlander (p.s. The word 'bloggers' is not in the freerepublic spellcheck dictionary?!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

Nice timing on the accusation there, Louis. (face palm)


18 posted on 02/21/2011 1:22:50 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
A pretty weak point since the WH told them behind the scenes that it was Okey Dokey and only denounced the idea after the deal was made. With blood in the streets on Libya this might not be the ideal time to point a hypocritical finger at Britain and say "I told you so" either.

Total Amateur Hour at the WH.

19 posted on 02/21/2011 1:28:05 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman
“I would suggest that to deal with him, to give him greater stature, greater ability on the world front
to look like he is a good citizen is a mistake.”





 hospital footage in Al-Bayda VERY GRAPHIC

20 posted on 02/21/2011 2:04:27 AM PST by greedo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman
I doubt anyone who voted for ZERO will read this, but just in case here goes:
Do you now realize we have a complete idiot running our country?
Do you realize a community organizer is not qualified for president?
We have no foreign policy we have no domestic policy except to spend money we don't have.
Can America survive another 2 years with DUMBO?
Only GOD knows.
21 posted on 02/21/2011 2:37:40 AM PST by DeaconRed (If you don't count the interest, things aren't so bad. . . .So ZERO doesn't count the Interest. MSM?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman
Mr Susman said: “I would suggest that to deal with him, to give him greater stature, greater ability on the world front to look like he is a good citizen is a mistake.”

That's right, but when Obama does it with his breed of terrorists, and marginalizes long-held allies, it's an act of benevolent genius.

22 posted on 02/21/2011 3:24:02 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Judges Gone Wild; bronxville

Gadaffi was a horrible dictator internally, but we had more or less tamed him in terms of his foreign aspirations and in fact Bush had forced him to disarm to a great extent (or at least enough not to be a threat to us).

I did notice that a couple of voices here and there (from within Libya) have declared that the Islamists are involved and are pushing for sharia. Gadaffi was not a mullah but a bizarre, crazy Oriental potentate, with his snappy all-girl security force, mercenary armies, and costumes straight out of the wardrobe room of a really bad B movie. He did the usual amount of anti-Western raving, but he continued to sell oil.

There are certainly many of the protesters, particularly in one of the cities that has a fair amount of Western influence, who are not Islamists and genuinely want a modern secular state that is not a dictatorship. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the Islamists end up with the power here because they are the ones who have the most unified agenda and also because they are probably receiving foreign support. There is so little reporting coming out of there that it is really hard to know what’s happening or who are the players.

I think Obama is on the fence. It is well known that the US (under Obama) knew all about and approved the release of the Lockerbie bomber, and in many ways, Gaddafi (a good friend of Hugo Chavez) was Obama’s buddy. But I think Obama would also like to see a solid radical Islamist bloc there and I think that because of his weird climate fantasies and hatred of oil and the modern societies it powers he actually wants to see the supply disrupted and reduced.

He’s not saying anything because he really doesn’t have to. It’s a win-win for him. If Gadaffi or his sons stay, they’re sufficiently anti-American and will probably become even more so, and even perhaps become more Islamist in orientation; and if the Islamists take over, that’s one more step towards the caliphate.


23 posted on 02/21/2011 3:32:22 AM PST by livius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

The US shielded and supported IRA terrorists for a long time. So they don’t really have any moral right to bitch and moan about this. However, considering how many British citizens have been killed by Gaddafi’s regime (all those killed by IRA terrorists trained and supported by him, WPC Fletcher, the British passengers in the Lockerbie plane etc) the British government fundamentally betrayed its own people by supporting this douche, and that pisses me off more than what he did to American citizens...


24 posted on 02/21/2011 4:22:08 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: TigersEye
"this might not be the ideal time to point a hypocritical finger at Britain and say "I told you so" either"

Which means there was an ulterior motive.

yitbos

25 posted on 02/21/2011 7:59:42 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson