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Video case reflects generations' great divide (musician faces 20 year sentence for youtube prank)
Mlive.com ^ | 02/20/11 | Cindy Fairfield

Posted on 02/21/2011 10:29:38 AM PST by Gena Bukin

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The parents of the children on the video are especially horrified, and as a parent, I can’t blame them.

As a parent of small children, yes, I would be upset by what Emory did. However, as a parent of two boys who will get older and quite possibly experience that lapses of judgement common in teenagers and young adults, I would also be horrified at the prospect of a 20 year prison sentence for what was clearly a prank that harmed no children.

Still, the Muskegon County Prosecutor’s office wants to make an example out of Emory so they went after the “big” charge.

And if we want to know why sex offender databases are filled to the brim with the names of individuals who aren't really threats to anyone (allowing the truly violent predators to slip through the cracks) this is a good example. Threaten someone with 20 years in prison and then make them an "offer they can't refuse" plea bargain that consists of a lighter sentence and sex offender registry. Basically, they're charging this young man with the same crime as someone who actually makes child porn. I can't help but think this is quite a bit of overreaching on behalf of the prosecutor.

1 posted on 02/21/2011 10:29:45 AM PST by Gena Bukin
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To: Gena Bukin

They could just put a giant fence around the US, call it a jail, and be done with it. You are all sinners and evildoers, every last one of you!


2 posted on 02/21/2011 10:34:39 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Gena Bukin

The Prosecutor should be sent to jail for frivolous prosecution. There’s no crime there. Sounds like a kid’s prank.


3 posted on 02/21/2011 10:41:30 AM PST by purplelobster
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To: Gena Bukin

“musician”???

He’s filthy pedophile. He used innocent children in his “production.” He showed the faces of beautiful sweet kindergarteners while dubbing in lyrics like “I’ll put my hand down your panties and put my finger in your a**.”

I hope they confiscated his computer. They will no doubt find thousands of images of child pornography.


4 posted on 02/21/2011 10:41:57 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: proxy_user
They could just put a giant fence around the US, call it a jail, and be done with it. You are all sinners and evildoers, every last one of you!

Easier to just put everyone on a sex offender registry. That seems to be where we're headed. You're not joking about a giant jail, though. Seems too many believe here that several years incarceration is the only suitable punishment for any transgression. I'm hard pressed to think how society is best served by throwing this young man in prison until he's forty.

5 posted on 02/21/2011 10:44:38 AM PST by Gena Bukin
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To: Palladin
I hope they confiscated his computer. They will no doubt find thousands of images of child pornography.

You can be sure they've already searched his computer.

6 posted on 02/21/2011 10:45:43 AM PST by Gena Bukin
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To: Gena Bukin

...and why the hell are FReepers defending the actions of a rotten decaying perv with a twisted, filthy mind?

Remember, all the while he was producing this “masterpiece” he was thinking of the meaning of his words...complete with mental images of ravishing 5 year old girls and boys.

Lock him up and throw away the key before he gets a chance to let his perverted fantasies become realities.

The people of Ravenna have a potential baby-rapist on their hands.


7 posted on 02/21/2011 10:47:04 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: Gena Bukin

If he would have sent the video to MTV instead of placed it on YOUTUBE, he wouldn’t have this problem.


8 posted on 02/21/2011 10:50:53 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: Palladin
I hope they confiscated his computer. They will no doubt find thousands of images of child pornography.

I have no doubt that they searched his computer. If they found actual evidence like that they would have prosecuted him for it for a slam dunk easy case. Since the prosecutor didn't do that I have to assume that they didn't find any such child porn.

9 posted on 02/21/2011 10:51:03 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: Palladin

So you should be imprisoned for your thoughts?


10 posted on 02/21/2011 10:56:10 AM PST by Krankor (And he's oh, so good, And he's oh, so fine, And he's oh, so healthy, In his body and his mind)
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To: Gena Bukin

I suppose this ignoramus with a law degree also wants to dig up Maurice Chevalier and prosecute him for “Thank Heaven For Little Girls”, too?

Censoring and prosecuting musicians was a bad idea when Vienna did it to Mozart, (”La Clemenza di Tito”), when Dresden did it to Wagner,(”Rienzi”), when Florence did it to Verdi,(un Ballo en Maschera”), and what this moron of a taxpayer’s-money-wasting-carbuncle-brained DA is doing to Emory now.

Doesn’t he have REAL crimes to prosecute?


11 posted on 02/21/2011 10:56:10 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Palladin

Awfully judgmental, aren’t we?


12 posted on 02/21/2011 10:57:27 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Palladin
...and why the hell are FReepers defending the actions of a rotten decaying perv with a twisted, filthy mind?

Because some of us can see the difference between a practical joke done in very poor taste and predatory child sex abuse and think that maybe these differences shouldn't be so readily blurred together.

13 posted on 02/21/2011 10:57:52 AM PST by Gena Bukin
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To: Emperor Palpatine

So glad the FR pervs are self-identifying on this thread.


14 posted on 02/21/2011 10:58:34 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: Palladin

You don’t know much about this story do you?
Pedophiles don’t post their work on youtube for the world to see and be caught.
The content of the video is not even consistent with pedophiles.
This is a jackass kid who did a tasteless prank.
He needs his ass kicked for sure, but jail is silly.

“Remember, all the while he was producing this “masterpiece” he was thinking of the meaning of his words...complete with mental images of ravishing 5 year old girls and boys.” You have no clue what he was thinking while making this prank as you claim.

Not defending him, but evidence shows he is just a dumb kid and not a pedophile.


15 posted on 02/21/2011 10:59:34 AM PST by Jazz1968
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To: Krankor

The thought is mother to the deed.


16 posted on 02/21/2011 10:59:41 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: Gena Bukin

When the parents of the children exposed to such indecency on the internet sue this idiot blind, he will realize it was more than a “practical joke.”


17 posted on 02/21/2011 11:01:13 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: Gena Bukin

The kooky Prosecutor does not have a grip on reality. It would be like trying to arrest Robert Deniro for murder because the Prosecutor watched “Good Fellas” and saw him shooting some people. The Governor should step in and put a stop to this farce.


18 posted on 02/21/2011 11:01:24 AM PST by purplelobster
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To: Jazz1968

I have read all about it and I agree wholeheartedly with the prosecutors:

“Emory manipulated the video to make it appear that the kids were listening to the dirty song that was rife with sexual innuendo and explicit lyrics. He then posted the video on Youtube.

“He didn’t think it through,” said defense attorney Terry Nolan. “He feels horrible for the families, he just didn’t think it through when he did this.”

Parents learned on Wednesday that the video was first shown on Valentine’s Day while Emory was performing at a local comedy club.

The singer is charged with manufacturing child sexual abusive materials, an offense that carries 15 to 20 years in jail.

On Wednesday Emory was arraigned in Muskegon. He was released on a $5,000 surety bond. Emory was ordered not to have any contact with children, except at his job, where he works as a waiter.”


19 posted on 02/21/2011 11:05:12 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: purplelobster

Silly comparison.

TG the parents and prosecutors in this area are more perceptive than the moron millenials defending this creep.


20 posted on 02/21/2011 11:07:05 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
I suppose this ignoramus with a law degree also wants to dig up Maurice Chevalier and prosecute him for “Thank Heaven For Little Girls”, too?

Comparing Maurice to this dude is really sick.

21 posted on 02/21/2011 11:07:25 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Palladin
So glad the FR pervs are self-identifying on this thread.

Glad to see opinions such as yours are shared by very few. You wouldn't happen to be the prosecutor, would you?

22 posted on 02/21/2011 11:09:01 AM PST by Gena Bukin
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To: Palladin

Right on.
What you just posted undermines your judgments that he is a child molester in waiting and instead points to the fact that this was a sick joke and not pedophilia.

I’m fine with the parents suing if they feel they need to for privacy issues, but prison time is ridiculous.


23 posted on 02/21/2011 11:11:12 AM PST by Jazz1968
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Emory, who indicates on his Facebook page that he goes to Muskegon Community College, could not be reached for comment. VanLoon said Emory graduated from Ravenna Public Schools. At the beginning of the video, Emory is seen standing at a blackboard writing, “Disclaimer: No children were exposed to the “Graphic Content” of this video.” Some of the sexual lyrics in the song include:

“I like the way you make your body move. C’mon, girl...See how long it takes to make your panties mine...I’ll add some foreplay in just to make it fun. I want to stick my index finger in your anus.”

The camera in the posted video scans the audience of smiling children and every child's face is recognizable.

24 posted on 02/21/2011 11:16:58 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: Krankor; Palladin
So you should be imprisoned for your thoughts put on a video?

Fixed it for ya.

25 posted on 02/21/2011 11:20:55 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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26 posted on 02/21/2011 11:22:33 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Gena Bukin; Palladin

Listen Noob, the pig used innocent children WITHOUT their parents permission for an incredibly nasty video. It doesn’t matter what they heard. The video misrepresented what the kids heard and made it look like they were ENJOYING what he was saying. You DON’T use other peoples children for this kind of trash.


27 posted on 02/21/2011 11:25:29 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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Parents Outraged:

A parent saw the video posting and notified the school. Authorities then intervened. The video has since been removed from the Internet.

Parents of the children were still reeling when they left the courtroom. Their kids’ identities were apparent in the YouTube video.

One visibly angry man expressed his displeasure with Muskegon County 60th District Court Visiting Judge Robert A. Benson’s decision to allow Emory to go free on bond.

“He got our kid on video!,” one angry Beechnau father shouted.

Another upset father, Charles Willick, of 1100 N. Ravenna, told reporters that “it’s ridiculous” what Emory did with the video.

“I’m disgusted by it,” Willick said. “It was totally uncalled for.”

Authorities also learned that Emory had played the same edited video last week at downtown Muskegon’s Club Envy, 441 W. Western, during a performance that Emory called a “variety show.”

Willick said he recently learned about that aspect of the case.

“Obviously we’re not happy about that,” he said.

As part of Emory’s bond, the judge prohibited Emory from posting any more videos on “social networks” or participating in any open-microphone nights.

Emory is also to have no contact with minor children, as a condition of the bond, the judge said, except for those he has contact with at his job at a local restaurant.

E-mail: hpeters@muskegonchronicle.com


28 posted on 02/21/2011 11:27:17 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
I suppose this ignoramus with a law degree also wants to dig up Maurice Chevalier and prosecute him for “Thank Heaven For Little Girls”, too?

Did he talk about molesting them when he sang it? No.

29 posted on 02/21/2011 11:29:13 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Palladin

I totally agree with you and am disgusted by the people around here calling this a “joke”. Too bad it wasn’t their little boys and girls he used in the video.


30 posted on 02/21/2011 11:33:34 AM PST by beandog
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To: beandog

Thank you, beandog.

I’m glad that the parents and prosecutors are going ahead with strong measures.


31 posted on 02/21/2011 11:36:28 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“the pig used innocent children WITHOUT their parents permission for an incredibly nasty video”
You are correct and the parents should be able to sue him in civil court for those reasons.
This however is not pedophilia.

In a state(Michigan) that is letting murders and rapist and actual pedophiles get out of prison early because of budget cuts, putting this punk prankster in prison is silly and a waste of space for the real offenders.

Again pedophiles don’t broadcast that they are pedophiles on the biggest content driven website in the world for all to see.
Dumb kid, dumb prank.

If it was my child I would ask the court if I could kick the crap out of him.


32 posted on 02/21/2011 11:36:35 AM PST by Jazz1968
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To: Gena Bukin
You wouldn't happen to be the prosecutor, would you?

___________________________________________

You wouldn't happen to be on a sex offender list, would you?

33 posted on 02/21/2011 11:39:02 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: beandog

“I totally agree with you and am disgusted by the people around here calling this a “joke””

But it being a “joke” are the facts of the case..
You are being emotional and not looking at the facts.
This dumb ass kid 100% did this as a joke. Those are just the facts.

Was he wrong? Yes...100%


34 posted on 02/21/2011 11:40:26 AM PST by Jazz1968
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To: Jazz1968

BUZZZZZZZZZZZ. Wrong answer. He used CHILDREN in an explicit video of a song. He made it LOOK like they knew. It is a crime. Children are not props for porn musical or otherwise.


35 posted on 02/21/2011 11:41:20 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: beandog
I wonder if the brand new freeper who is defending this creep saw the video...and if it titillated him. He sure seems defensive of what one could only dsecribe as soft-core abuse...as if the level of abuse somehow makes it acceptable.
36 posted on 02/21/2011 11:42:38 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Palladin

“I’m glad that the parents and prosecutors are going ahead with strong measures”

So Palladin, how much prison time should he get in your opinion?


37 posted on 02/21/2011 11:43:38 AM PST by Jazz1968
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To: DJ MacWoW
Listen Noob, the pig used innocent children WITHOUT their parents permission for an incredibly nasty video. It doesn’t matter what they heard. The video misrepresented what the kids heard and made it look like they were ENJOYING what he was saying. You DON’T use other peoples children for this kind of trash.

Noob? You think this is my first rodeo on an internet forum? I may have signed up a month ago but I sure wasn't born a month ago.

Listen closely. Just because I don't believe this young man should spend a significant amount of his adult life incarcerated doesn't mean I'm not appalled by his vulgar, juvenile sense of humor (and not particularly funny or original. Dave Chapelle did it better). As you pointed out, the children were used without permission. As someone else pointed out, this sounds like a civil case between Emory and the parents. I have no problem with this. Charging him with the same crime that is reserved for actual child pornographers is ridiculous though.

I'm reminded of those feminists who believe that every regrettable act of drunken, consensual sex is by definition rape. This insults those victims who have experienced violent rape, something that is a decidedly different experience from bad drunken sex. Calling this guy a child pornographer and charging him as such is no different and just as much of an insult to the very real victims of actual child pornography and predatory child sex offenders.

38 posted on 02/21/2011 11:44:58 AM PST by Gena Bukin
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To: wtc911; beandog

Look at the signup dates of all the defenders. 2008, 2009......Maybe they don’t know this is a Conservative forum and not a Republican one.


39 posted on 02/21/2011 11:46:24 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Gena Bukin
Noob? You think this is my first rodeo on an internet forum?

You are new to FR and apparently don't understand what "Conservative" means. Where'd you post before? Kos? DU?

As to the rest of your post, BUNK. You defend him vigorously. He's a pig that used children and exploited them. They are NOT props for his musical porn. And he used them as such.

40 posted on 02/21/2011 11:49:39 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Jazz1968

I don’t care if he says he did it has a “joke” it isn’t. If anybody thinks this is funny they are just as sick as he is. He is old enough to know how to behave properly.

By the way I’m the one who is looking at the facts, you’re the one acting emotionally. The facts are he’s a sick individual.


41 posted on 02/21/2011 11:51:01 AM PST by beandog
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To: Palladin
He’s filthy pedophile. He used innocent children in his “production.” He showed the faces of beautiful sweet kindergarteners while dubbing in lyrics like “I’ll put my hand down your panties and put my finger in your a**.”

So he's singing about the TSA?
42 posted on 02/21/2011 11:51:14 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: DJ MacWoW

The sign up date accusation that runs rampant here is so childish.
It has nothing to do with anything.

What is this obsession with how long someone has been signed up here?

I personally have been lurking here since around 2001 or so, but never had a need to sign up until 2008.


43 posted on 02/21/2011 11:53:59 AM PST by Jazz1968 (I)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m just really shocked that anybody around here is defending this as a “joke”. He knew what he was doing was wrong and just didn’t care. If he really thinks this is funny that he is sicker than I think he is.


44 posted on 02/21/2011 11:55:09 AM PST by beandog
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To: Palladin

Excuse me?

No pal, I’m a professional musician, and any censorship of any music is anathema to me. Its that whole slippery-slope argument. Plus this is a colossal waste of tax dollars.

Falsely impugning my morals and character and cavalierly insulting me, who you do not even know beyond my screen persona here, is the tactic of the intellectually dishonest left.


45 posted on 02/21/2011 11:55:19 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Gena Bukin

Muskegon and the surrounding area is dominated by an extremely conservative fundatmentalist Dutch Christian set.

The locals will not “get” the humor and many are no doubt disappointed by the weak response from authorities.


46 posted on 02/21/2011 11:56:13 AM PST by sbMKE
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To: beandog

“By the way I’m the one who is looking at the facts, you’re the one acting emotionally. The facts are he’s a sick individual.”

You 100% missed the point.


47 posted on 02/21/2011 11:56:17 AM PST by Jazz1968 (I)
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To: Jazz1968
It has nothing to do with anything.

It has everything to do with it. Noobs have not proven themselves to be Conservative activists. And on threads like this they prove they are not Conservative. It's usually called a "bug zapper" thread.

48 posted on 02/21/2011 11:56:17 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Jazz1968

You should have kept lurking, FR would have been better for it.


49 posted on 02/21/2011 11:56:34 AM PST by beandog
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To: Jazz1968
I personally have been lurking here since around 2001 or so, but never had a need to sign up until 2008.

PS. That's usually the claim. No one believes it. Ever.

50 posted on 02/21/2011 11:57:47 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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