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Video case reflects generations' great divide (musician faces 20 year sentence for youtube prank)
Mlive.com ^ | 02/20/11 | Cindy Fairfield

Posted on 02/21/2011 10:29:38 AM PST by Gena Bukin

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To: Jazz1968

I don’t care if he says he did it has a “joke” it isn’t. If anybody thinks this is funny they are just as sick as he is. He is old enough to know how to behave properly.

By the way I’m the one who is looking at the facts, you’re the one acting emotionally. The facts are he’s a sick individual.


41 posted on 02/21/2011 11:51:01 AM PST by beandog
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To: Palladin
He’s filthy pedophile. He used innocent children in his “production.” He showed the faces of beautiful sweet kindergarteners while dubbing in lyrics like “I’ll put my hand down your panties and put my finger in your a**.”

So he's singing about the TSA?
42 posted on 02/21/2011 11:51:14 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: DJ MacWoW

The sign up date accusation that runs rampant here is so childish.
It has nothing to do with anything.

What is this obsession with how long someone has been signed up here?

I personally have been lurking here since around 2001 or so, but never had a need to sign up until 2008.


43 posted on 02/21/2011 11:53:59 AM PST by Jazz1968 (I)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m just really shocked that anybody around here is defending this as a “joke”. He knew what he was doing was wrong and just didn’t care. If he really thinks this is funny that he is sicker than I think he is.


44 posted on 02/21/2011 11:55:09 AM PST by beandog
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To: Palladin

Excuse me?

No pal, I’m a professional musician, and any censorship of any music is anathema to me. Its that whole slippery-slope argument. Plus this is a colossal waste of tax dollars.

Falsely impugning my morals and character and cavalierly insulting me, who you do not even know beyond my screen persona here, is the tactic of the intellectually dishonest left.


45 posted on 02/21/2011 11:55:19 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Gena Bukin

Muskegon and the surrounding area is dominated by an extremely conservative fundatmentalist Dutch Christian set.

The locals will not “get” the humor and many are no doubt disappointed by the weak response from authorities.


46 posted on 02/21/2011 11:56:13 AM PST by sbMKE
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To: beandog

“By the way I’m the one who is looking at the facts, you’re the one acting emotionally. The facts are he’s a sick individual.”

You 100% missed the point.


47 posted on 02/21/2011 11:56:17 AM PST by Jazz1968 (I)
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To: Jazz1968
It has nothing to do with anything.

It has everything to do with it. Noobs have not proven themselves to be Conservative activists. And on threads like this they prove they are not Conservative. It's usually called a "bug zapper" thread.

48 posted on 02/21/2011 11:56:17 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Jazz1968

You should have kept lurking, FR would have been better for it.


49 posted on 02/21/2011 11:56:34 AM PST by beandog
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To: Jazz1968
I personally have been lurking here since around 2001 or so, but never had a need to sign up until 2008.

PS. That's usually the claim. No one believes it. Ever.

50 posted on 02/21/2011 11:57:47 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Noobs have not proven themselves to be Conservative activists. And on threads like this they prove they are not Conservative”

Boy aren’t you righteous!


51 posted on 02/21/2011 12:02:42 PM PST by Jazz1968 (I)
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To: Jazz1968
Boy aren’t you righteous!

Yes because I'm on the right side of this and am not making excuses for innocent children being used as props in musical porn.

52 posted on 02/21/2011 12:06:22 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: beandog

“You should have kept lurking, FR would have been better for it.”

You are so Conservative, yet you sink to Liberal tactics when someone doesn’t agree with your view.


53 posted on 02/21/2011 12:07:57 PM PST by Jazz1968 (I)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
No pal, I’m a professional musician, and any censorship of any music is anathema to me...

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I'm a professional writer. I have moral standards, especially when children are involved. I am guided in my opinion by these standards, not by a sense of personal self-interest.

If children were used as un-witting visual props for sexually explicit lyrics, as it seems to be since nobody has refuted the court's claim of content, then this is child pornography. You may find it acceptable because of your professional sef-interest. I find it abhorrent.

And, anybody who professes that this creep did not experience some thrill while singing "put my hand down your panties..." while mixing the lyrics over a picture of smiling children is blind and to me, morally suspect.

54 posted on 02/21/2011 12:09:38 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: DJ MacWoW

Saying I’m making excuses shows how challenged your reading comprehension is.
I said the kid is a dumb ass, but I also think the punishment should fit the crime.

How much prison time should he get oh great one?


55 posted on 02/21/2011 12:10:51 PM PST by Jazz1968 (I)
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To: DJ MacWoW; wtc911; beandog; Palladin; little jeremiah; trisham; metmom; RnMomof7; samiam1972
Look at the signup dates of all the defenders. 2008, 2009......Maybe they don’t know this is a Conservative forum and not a Republican one.

Most of them are MoRon Paul libertines who hope to destroy American.

56 posted on 02/21/2011 12:11:48 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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You are so Conservative, yet you sink to Liberal tactics when someone doesn’t agree with your view.

Free Republic is an activist website for Conservatives. It is not meant as a forum for debating liberals. So yes, we all agree. And those that don't are usually zotted sooner or later. FR has no obligation to give a platform to anything but Conservatives voices.

57 posted on 02/21/2011 12:12:03 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Gena Bukin
I'm hard pressed to think how society is best served by throwing this young man in prison until he's forty.

It's a little harsh, for sure. I think 5 years would send the right message. He'd be out in three for "good behavior".

58 posted on 02/21/2011 12:14:30 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: DJ MacWoW

So now you run and speak for all on FR?
Better yet, you speak for all Conservatives?

NOT THIS ONE!


59 posted on 02/21/2011 12:15:15 PM PST by Jazz1968 (I)
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To: Gena Bukin; DJ MacWoW; wtc911; beandog; Palladin; little jeremiah; trisham; metmom; RnMomof7; ...
Noob? You think this is my first rodeo on an internet forum? I may have signed up a month ago but I sure wasn't born a month ago.

So tell us troll, how many zots have you racked up at FR over the years?

Just because I don't believe this young man should spend a significant amount of his adult life incarcerated doesn't mean I'm not appalled by his vulgar, juvenile sense of humor (and not particularly funny or original. Dave Chapelle did it better).

So, would it be fair to say that you are "personally opposed" to pedophilia, but don't want to impose your views on others?

I'm reminded of those feminists who believe that every regrettable act of drunken, consensual sex is by definition rape. This insults those victims who have experienced violent rape, something that is a decidedly different experience from bad drunken sex. Calling this guy a child pornographer and charging him as such is no different and just as much of an insult to the very real victims of actual child pornography and predatory child sex offenders.

It's disturbing the lengths you and your ilk will go to in order to rationalize pornography.

60 posted on 02/21/2011 12:15:44 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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