Skip to comments.Fearing shutdown, GOP considering deal with Dems to fund government for two more weeks
Posted on 02/21/2011 7:17:12 PM PST by Hojczyk
Remember, the budget saga began with Republicans vowing in the Pledge to America to cut $100 billion in discretionary non-defense spending. Thats a token cut as noted many times here previously, the deficit this year alone will be 15 times that amount but that was their promise. Then, last week, they backed off it when huge numbers of Republicans joined with Democrats to reject an amendment to add $22 billion in additional cuts to the current number of $60 billion. So the current number is even more token still. But because theyre not prepared to go to the mat even on that puny number, were going to swerve again to avoid a game of chicken with Democrats before funding runs out on March 4. Enter the temporary budget fix, which will provide new funds for two weeks to keep things running while they work out a deal for the rest of the year.
Question: What happens after two weeks if theres still no deal? If Republicans are this terrified of being blamed for a shutdown, why shouldnt Democrats drive the hardest bargain they can?
News of the negotiations comes a day after several Republican lawmakers indicated they might accept a short-term spending bill as long as it included at least some spending reductions and not necessarily the deeper cuts the House approved last weekend
Everyone knows that, no matter what the truth, we would be blamed [for a government shutdown], so it would be a dumb political move, one House Republican leadership aide told CNN
If they send something over with cuts we could probably accept it, said one Senate Democratic leadership aide
Rep. Tim Scott. R-South Carolina, a Tea Party-backed freshman who was elected by his colleagues to serve as liaison to the House GOP leadership, told CNN Monday, the time is short for the Senate to come up with on a long-term solution so we are prepared for a short term conversation on a short term [spending bill].
Dont count too heavily on that Democratic leadership aide in thinking that the Senate will accept a short fix with small cuts. Chuck Schumer told the Wall Street Journal that they want no cuts at all in the temporary bill, that Obamas spending freeze should be good enough. Cant say I blame him. Why not test the GOPs mettle on this? Theyve already demoralized the base with last weeks vote. Why not try to force them to cave on the short-term bill and demoralize conservatives even further?
Mind you, this surreal debate about how small cuts should have to be comes in the context of a story in WaPo announcing that federal, state, and local debt now exceeds the total size of the economy. Thats happened before, after World War II, but some of that debt ended up being paid down by a young population during an age of economic growth. Now weve got the opposite problem a lingering recession and an entitlement load from Baby Boomers from which theres seemingly no escape. The ship is going down, yet even a sum as paltry as $60 billion in cuts is somehow so unimaginable that we need a two-week patch on the budget to give us extra time to weigh whether we should do it. Were truly doomed.
In other words:
Screw the budget, let the government shut down.
The Speaker should help this person get a new job somewhere else.
More house cleaning to do, that is if we make it to another election
We need to elect better Republicans.
It was just one of those Democrat "we'll let thePresident find 5% or 10% somewhere because we can't find anything in particular we don't like" type amendments.
In short, it's not a thing to die for.
REAL cuts are things like DEFUNDING PBS and NPR.
The RATS wouldn’t hesitate to shut the government down or do anything else, for that matter, to get their agenda through.
The Repubs need to toughen up.
I’m with ya pal! Shut her down! Since Pres. day is now over we would be looking at like 2 months till the next long weekend. As a govt worker I say shut her down for a week or two so I can break in my new fishing pole :-)
Just remember to pay us back wages when all the kerfumpling is finished.
i think we are all in for a round of “disappointment” as usual.
lots of military retirees will be looking for our paychecks ya know. Contrary to a lot of people’s opinions, not all of us live on a golf course and drink martinis every day. A lot of us live on tight budgets and need those retirement checks to pay our mortgages. My family took a beating in real estate over the last 2 years, and before that lost all our UAL stock when that company tanked. Yeah, flying navy jets and working in the medical hobby shop were a lot more fun than being an old retired fa#t! Now he wears a suit and tie every day and flies a desk (thank the Lord he has a job!) and I homeschool our daughter, help my aging parents (including nursing care), and aid my extended family in any way I can. Find a job? Sure, but I’ve got family depending on me now in other ways than when I used to wear a uniform. Yes, I want the government to stop spending so much da*n money, but I want my retirement check too. Seems to me that we could do a whole lot more to fix this royal mess. He)) yes I’m mad!
Shut it down! Shut it down!
I heard that checks would stop going out, also. I was under the impression that such checks simply continued, while other services shut down, so I don’t know how true that actually is.
However, w/respect to your husband and family, I DO hope the government shuts down, so that we can show what greedy, America-destroying scoundrels the Democrats are willing to be.
The government may cut back in many places, and may decide not to buy some fancy new military hardware, but the government would have to be crazy to send the message to the soldiers that their active duty pay, or retirement pay, is an iffy thing. It won't happen.
sorry but elections have consequences.
Pretty much sums it up.
Republican and Conservative have not been "one and the same" for many, many years now!
Actually the voters need to toughen up and let the Repubs know it at the ballot box!
What is it that results from a government shutdown that I’m supposed to be afraid of?
Okay. I answered my own question. Nothing.
Looming Government Shutdown Anarchy?
Essential Services and Personnel
A 1980 Office of Management and Budget (OMB) memorandum defines essential government services and essential employees as those:
1. providing for the national security, including the conduct of foreign relations essential to the national security or the safety of life and property;
2. providing for benefit payments and the performance of contract obligations under no-year or multi-year or other funds remaining available for those purposes;
3. conducting essential activities to the extent that they protect life and property, including:
* medical care of inpatients and emergency outpatient care;
* activities essential to ensure continued public health and safety, including safe use of food, drugs, and hazardous materials;
* continuance of air traffic control and other transportation safety functions and the protection of transport property;
* border and coastal protection and surveillance;
* protection of federal lands, buildings, waterways, equipment and other property owned by the United States;
* care of prisoners and other persons in the custody of the United States;
* law enforcement and criminal investigations;
* emergency and disaster assistance;
* activities that ensure production of power and maintenance of the power distribution system;
* activities essential to the preservation of the essential elements of the money and banking system of the United States, including borrowing and tax collection activities of the Treasury; and
* activities necessary to maintain protection of research property.
You are correct!