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Fearing shutdown, GOP considering deal with Dems to fund government for two more weeks
Hotair ^ | Feb 21 ,2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on 02/21/2011 7:17:12 PM PST by Hojczyk

Remember, the budget saga began with Republicans vowing in the Pledge to America to cut $100 billion in discretionary non-defense spending. That’s a token cut — as noted many times here previously, the deficit this year alone will be 15 times that amount — but that was their promise. Then, last week, they backed off it when huge numbers of Republicans joined with Democrats to reject an amendment to add $22 billion in additional cuts to the current number of $60 billion. So the current number is even more token still. But because they’re not prepared to go to the mat even on that puny number, we’re going to swerve again to avoid a game of chicken with Democrats before funding runs out on March 4. Enter the temporary budget fix, which will provide new funds for two weeks to keep things running while they work out a deal for the rest of the year.

Question: What happens after two weeks if there’s still no deal? If Republicans are this terrified of being blamed for a shutdown, why shouldn’t Democrats drive the hardest bargain they can?

News of the negotiations comes a day after several Republican lawmakers indicated they might accept a short-term spending bill as long as it included at least some spending reductions and not necessarily the deeper cuts the House approved last weekend…

“Everyone knows that, no matter what the truth, we would be blamed [for a government shutdown], so it would be a dumb political move,” one House Republican leadership aide told CNN…

“If they send something over with cuts we could probably accept it,” said one Senate Democratic leadership aide…

Rep. Tim Scott. R-South Carolina, a Tea Party-backed freshman who was elected by his colleagues to serve as liaison to the House GOP leadership, told CNN Monday, “the time is short for the Senate to come up with on a long-term solution so we are prepared for a short term conversation on a short term [spending bill].”

Don’t count too heavily on that Democratic leadership aide in thinking that the Senate will accept a short fix with small cuts. Chuck Schumer told the Wall Street Journal that they want no cuts at all in the temporary bill, that Obama’s spending freeze should be good enough. Can’t say I blame him. Why not test the GOP’s mettle on this? They’ve already demoralized the base with last week’s vote. Why not try to force them to cave on the short-term bill and demoralize conservatives even further?

Mind you, this surreal debate about how small cuts should have to be comes in the context of a story in WaPo announcing that federal, state, and local debt now exceeds the total size of the economy. That’s happened before, after World War II, but some of that debt ended up being paid down by a young population during an age of economic growth. Now we’ve got the opposite problem — a lingering recession and an entitlement load from Baby Boomers from which there’s seemingly no escape. The ship is going down, yet even a sum as paltry as $60 billion in cuts is somehow so unimaginable that we need a two-week patch on the budget to give us extra time to weigh whether we should do it. We’re truly doomed.


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1 posted on 02/21/2011 7:17:14 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

In other words:

BOHICA


2 posted on 02/21/2011 7:19:16 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Hojczyk

Screw the budget, let the government shut down.


3 posted on 02/21/2011 7:22:39 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Hojczyk
You can always count on some House Republican leadership aide to say just anything that flips through his mind.

The Speaker should help this person get a new job somewhere else.

4 posted on 02/21/2011 7:23:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Hojczyk

No deals.


5 posted on 02/21/2011 7:23:29 PM PST by yup2394871293
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To: Hojczyk
...huge numbers of Republicans joined with Democrats...

More house cleaning to do, that is if we make it to another election

6 posted on 02/21/2011 7:23:29 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: Hojczyk

We need to elect better Republicans.


7 posted on 02/21/2011 7:24:11 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Outlaw Woman
The "amendment" was out of line with the stated objective ~ which was to find specific items to cut now.

It was just one of those Democrat "we'll let thePresident find 5% or 10% somewhere because we can't find anything in particular we don't like" type amendments.

In short, it's not a thing to die for.

REAL cuts are things like DEFUNDING PBS and NPR.

8 posted on 02/21/2011 7:25:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ClearCase_guy
We need to elect better ACTUAL Republicans
9 posted on 02/21/2011 7:27:51 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Hojczyk

The RATS wouldn’t hesitate to shut the government down or do anything else, for that matter, to get their agenda through.


10 posted on 02/21/2011 7:32:39 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Spktyr
I agree, let it shut down. The country will not disappear, life as we know it won't end. The boy has cried wolf too many times already.

The Repubs need to toughen up.

11 posted on 02/21/2011 7:33:01 PM PST by Shannon
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To: muawiyah
The Speaker should help this person get a new job somewhere else.
12 posted on 02/21/2011 7:38:42 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Hojczyk

Screw ‘em


13 posted on 02/21/2011 7:44:59 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO.)
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To: Hojczyk
NO! Let it shut down because the rats wont cooperate to get the job done. Its on them!
14 posted on 02/21/2011 7:45:04 PM PST by RedMDer (Stimulus... hasn't stimulated ANYTHING but The TEA PARTY!!! - Sarah Palin)
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To: yup2394871293

I’m with ya pal! Shut her down! Since Pres. day is now over we would be looking at like 2 months till the next long weekend. As a govt worker I say shut her down for a week or two so I can break in my new fishing pole :-)

Just remember to pay us back wages when all the kerfumpling is finished.


15 posted on 02/21/2011 7:45:31 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: ClearCase_guy

i think we are all in for a round of “disappointment” as usual.


16 posted on 02/21/2011 7:51:37 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Shannon

lots of military retirees will be looking for our paychecks ya know. Contrary to a lot of people’s opinions, not all of us live on a golf course and drink martinis every day. A lot of us live on tight budgets and need those retirement checks to pay our mortgages. My family took a beating in real estate over the last 2 years, and before that lost all our UAL stock when that company tanked. Yeah, flying navy jets and working in the medical hobby shop were a lot more fun than being an old retired fa#t! Now he wears a suit and tie every day and flies a desk (thank the Lord he has a job!) and I homeschool our daughter, help my aging parents (including nursing care), and aid my extended family in any way I can. Find a job? Sure, but I’ve got family depending on me now in other ways than when I used to wear a uniform. Yes, I want the government to stop spending so much da*n money, but I want my retirement check too. Seems to me that we could do a whole lot more to fix this royal mess. He)) yes I’m mad!


17 posted on 02/21/2011 7:59:44 PM PST by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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To: Hojczyk
I share your skepticism, but am willing to be surprised. Indeed I hope to be. But the gop has such a history of giving away the farm before anyone even asks for it... well, we shall see in short order, won't we.
18 posted on 02/21/2011 8:17:22 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: sassy steel magnolia
My experience after working for the fed for a number of years is, the one thing the gubmint does better than anything else is to cut checks and pay people. I wouldn't worry, frankly, your check is secure.
19 posted on 02/21/2011 8:22:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Hojczyk
Let's see now - The Democraps had an overwhelming majority in both Houses of the Congress last year, the entire year. Now with two months with a supposed new majority in the house, they want two more weeks to resolve a continuing resolution that they didn't have the guts to do before the last election.

SHUT THE PIMPS OF THE ELECTION INDUSTRY DOWN - BOTH Rs and Ds!
20 posted on 02/21/2011 8:31:12 PM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Hojczyk

Shut it down! Shut it down!


21 posted on 02/21/2011 8:38:26 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: sassy steel magnolia

I heard that checks would stop going out, also. I was under the impression that such checks simply continued, while other services shut down, so I don’t know how true that actually is.

However, w/respect to your husband and family, I DO hope the government shuts down, so that we can show what greedy, America-destroying scoundrels the Democrats are willing to be.


22 posted on 02/21/2011 8:39:44 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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To: Hojczyk
“Everyone knows that, no matter what the truth, we would be blamed [for a government shutdown], so it would be a dumb political move,” one House Republican leadership aide told CNN…

P-U-S-S-Y...

23 posted on 02/21/2011 8:40:56 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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To: sassy steel magnolia
Old advice from a Roman emperor to his son -- "First: pay the soldiers."

The government may cut back in many places, and may decide not to buy some fancy new military hardware, but the government would have to be crazy to send the message to the soldiers that their active duty pay, or retirement pay, is an iffy thing. It won't happen.

24 posted on 02/21/2011 8:44:46 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Hojczyk
FUND the government 2 weeks at a time, FOR A PRICE...
Way to go boys..(and girls).. bleed the bastards DRY..
Give em' a fix a few hours at a time..
25 posted on 02/21/2011 8:46:03 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: dynachrome
We need to elect better ACTUAL Republicans Real Conservatives
26 posted on 02/21/2011 8:56:02 PM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: sassy steel magnolia

sorry but elections have consequences.


27 posted on 02/21/2011 9:28:18 PM PST by remaxagnt (`)
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To: Hojczyk
The ship is going down, yet even a sum as paltry as $60 billion in cuts is somehow so unimaginable that we need a two-week patch on the budget to give us extra time to weigh whether we should do it. We’re truly doomed.

Pretty much sums it up.

28 posted on 02/21/2011 9:33:35 PM PST by EternalVigilance (No President who performs his duties faithfully and conscientiously can have any leisure. - JK Polk)
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To: dynachrome
"We need to elect better ACTUAL Republicans Constitutional Conservatives!"

Republican and Conservative have not been "one and the same" for many, many years now!

29 posted on 02/21/2011 11:14:24 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: Shannon
"The Repubs need to toughen up."

Actually the voters need to toughen up and let the Repubs know it at the ballot box!

30 posted on 02/21/2011 11:16:48 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: Spktyr

Seriously.

What is it that results from a government shutdown that I’m supposed to be afraid of?


31 posted on 02/21/2011 11:17:36 PM PST by Nickname
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To: Nickname

Okay. I answered my own question. Nothing.

Looming Government Shutdown Anarchy?

http://biggovernment.com/jmsimpson/2011/02/19/looming-government-shutdown-anarchy/

Essential Services and Personnel

A 1980 Office of Management and Budget (OMB) memorandum defines “essential” government services and “essential” employees as those:

1. providing for the national security, including the conduct of foreign relations essential to the national security or the safety of life and property;

2. providing for benefit payments and the performance of contract obligations under no-year or multi-year or other funds remaining available for those purposes;

3. conducting essential activities to the extent that they protect life and property, including:

* medical care of inpatients and emergency outpatient care;
* activities essential to ensure continued public health and safety, including safe use of food, drugs, and hazardous materials;
* continuance of air traffic control and other transportation safety functions and the protection of transport property;
* border and coastal protection and surveillance;
* protection of federal lands, buildings, waterways, equipment and other property owned by the United States;
* care of prisoners and other persons in the custody of the United States;
* law enforcement and criminal investigations;
* emergency and disaster assistance;
* activities that ensure production of power and maintenance of the power distribution system;
* activities essential to the preservation of the essential elements of the money and banking system of the United States, including borrowing and tax collection activities of the Treasury; and
* activities necessary to maintain protection of research property.


32 posted on 02/21/2011 11:45:18 PM PST by Nickname
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To: ImpBill; Qbert
"We need to elect better ACTUAL Republicans Constitutional Conservatives!"

You are correct!

33 posted on 02/22/2011 6:56:40 AM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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