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CA public employees rally in support of WI counterparts
Sacramento Bee ^ | February 24, 2011 | Jon Ortiz

Posted on 02/24/2011 2:31:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

.....As they sang, "Solidarity forever, for unions make us strong," to the tune of the chorus of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic," about 35 tea party activists gathered across the street holding their own signs:

"No more free lunch!" and "Scott Walker for President!"

Richard Woods, a retired contractor who lives in Penryn, stood with the smaller group wearing a red visor with "Tea Party Patriots" stitched on the the front.

"I think the unions are right to be running scared," he said. "Middle America is coming after them."

Wisconsin unions have said they'll accept the higher out-of-pocket payouts that together equal an 8 percent cut to take-home pay, but tens of thousands of employees mobilized in the last week to protect their union bargaining rights.

Ironically, an outright win over the unions by Walker would mean less to California government employees than if he and Wisconsin Republicans compromise by taking the money and leaving union bargaining intact.

"If (Walker) triumphs, the same thing won't happen in California. It would be seen as too extreme," said labor historian Daniel J.B. Mitchell of UCLA's Anderson School of Management. "But a compromise … one could see Republicans here saying, 'Well, they did this in Wisconsin,' and it would be taken as a model for California."

Nelson Lichtenstein, director of the Center for the Study of Work, Labor and Democracy at UC Santa Barbara, said that a Wisconsin compromise could have a cascading effect as Brown grasps for solutions to close the state's $26.6 billion deficit. Gov. Jerry Brown has been in talks with six unions still without contracts.

"It would give Brown cover," Lichtenstein said. "He could look at Wisconsin and say (to the unions), 'I can take a little more out of your hide.' "....

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bargaining; teachers; unions; walker; wisconsinshowdown
Yeah, right. Pull the other one.
1 posted on 02/24/2011 2:31:18 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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More: [excerpt] "It seems virtually impossible that Walker's overhaul of Wisconsin's labor politics could gain traction in the California Legislature. Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown signed the law that gave state employees bargaining rights during his first term in office more than 30 years ago, and his labor-friendly party controls the state Senate and Assembly by wide margins.

Still, efforts are under way to put an initiative on the ballot next year that would strip public employees of their bargaining rights. And, two labor experts say, events in Wisconsin could embolden both sides of the aisle in California to make deeper cuts in state employee compensation." [end excerpt]

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And one of their activist judges will immediately call it unconstitutional.

2 posted on 02/24/2011 2:34:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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“LOS ANGELES — Members of Los Angeles County labor unions are on their way to Wisconsin to support government workers there who are battling to keep collective bargaining rights.

City News Service says about 160 members of the county Federation of Labor left Los Angeles on Wednesday morning. They’ll join tens of thousands of protesters outside the Wisconsin state Capitol.”

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/02/23/3424335/la-county-unionists-joining-wisconsin.html

Chicago Federation of Labor workers show solidarity in Wisconsin

http://www.chicagolabor.org/


3 posted on 02/24/2011 2:39:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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It doesn't really matter.

The state is dead broke.

It was insolvent when they started issuing IOUs.

The budget can't be fixed with further tax increases. Business is already fleeing the state reducing the tax base.

The idiots are trying to defy gravity and will find out the hard way it can't be done while still on earth.

The only question is if the governing class is going to decide what gets cut or a bankruptcy judge.

At least that's my 2 cents...

4 posted on 02/24/2011 2:44:14 AM PST by DB
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Another solution: If the public employee union members won’t contribute enough to make the pensions and health benefit promises self sufficient, then make those pensions and benefits subject to a special surtax that balances the deficiency. Say a 50% tax on any benefit payouts exceeding $40K/yr. They can’t claim a tax targeting them is unconstitutional when they’ve targeted everybody else over the years.


5 posted on 02/24/2011 2:47:13 AM PST by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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WI compromise would hurt CA unions

There's a law in the universe that anything that will hurt the CA unions will help CA and everybody else in it. Whatever you're doing in WI, please, keep doing it.

6 posted on 02/24/2011 2:47:32 AM PST by Jim 0216
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City News Service says about 160 members of the county Federation of Labor left Los Angeles on Wednesday morning. They’ll join tens of thousands of protesters outside the Wisconsin state Capitol.”

Is the 'stimulus' paying for this?

7 posted on 02/24/2011 2:50:14 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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Sooner or later these useful idiots of Obama and his socialist gang are going to think,since the Leftist MSM is drum beating how noble and righteous their attempts to overturn the clear American majority decision of 11/2/10 was,that violence is not only acceptable but enjoyable.

America is not Egypt—we have a tradition of freedom and we have in our homes the means to preserve it.
We know the 2nd Amendment's original intent and even if the Left succeeds in their mission to hand the US over to a tyrant or tyrants—their evil souls will not be on earth long enough to gloat about it.

8 posted on 02/24/2011 2:51:23 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Only God has more power than the Second Amendement to save America.")
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LA Union Activists Join in On Wisconsin Labor Fight

"Protersters (sic) hold signs and shout as police officers four rows deep protect Governor Scott Walker's office inside the Wisconsin state Capitol. Today is the ninth consecutive day of protests."

9 posted on 02/24/2011 2:53:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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National labor unions such as the AFL-CIO and AFSCME send members to Wisconsin
10 posted on 02/24/2011 2:56:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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Union (97-union South Central Federation of Labor of Wisconsin) endorses strike

[excerpt] Madison - A Madison-based labor union voted to endorse "a general strike possibly for the day Gov. (Scott) Walker signs his budget-repair bill.''

....State AFL-CIO officials said they remained focused on scheduling rallies for Thursday, which they said "will be the largest demonstrations outside of Madison in Wisconsin's history." [end excerpt]

11 posted on 02/24/2011 3:01:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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I understand that, but talkers yesterday indicated that stimulus money (and lots of it) wound up in union pockets...


12 posted on 02/24/2011 3:04:24 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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Faculty Association President Don Barrett said Wisconsin bid to end labor rights threatens California unions

[exceprt] “Facing snowstorms and subfreezing temperatures, Cal State San Marcos professor Don Barrett joined a delegation of California union members in Madison, Wis., on Wednesday to support state workers in protesting attacks on organized labor.

We’re here to support the workers of Wisconsin in their efforts to maintain collective bargaining,” Barrett, president of the San Marcos chapter of the California Faculty Association, said in a telephone interview from Madison.

.....Barrett said Walker’s attempts to end labor rights have implications for members of Cal State’s faculty union and other California workers. On Tuesday, California Assemblyman Allan Mansoor, R-Costa Mesa, introduced legislation which would eliminate collective bargaining on state pension benefits.

“We need the ability for labor to have power,” Barrett said. “We need the faculty to be able to have a voice when the administration tries to increase our workloads to the point that we can’t provide a quality education.” [end excerpt]

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/san-marcos/article_2a39b96c-2487-513d-824b-2411e3ae6828.html


13 posted on 02/24/2011 3:04:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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....stimulus money (and lots of it) wound up in union pockets...

Yes! It went to shore up their benefits packages!

14 posted on 02/24/2011 3:05:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Happy Rain
their evil souls will not be on earth long enough to gloat about it.

Is that a THREAT, a PROMISE, OR a crystal ball forecast?

15 posted on 02/24/2011 3:32:31 AM PST by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)
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....stimulus money (and lots of it) wound up in union pockets... Yes! It went to shore up their benefits packages!

The whole STIMULUS and UNION Barganing thingie is a huge SCAM.

The DEMS steal for UNION BENEFITS, the UNIONS take a per centage and pay the DEMS.

BREAK this and the UNIONS and DEMS all rot in hell where they belong.

16 posted on 02/24/2011 3:35:52 AM PST by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)
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Yes! It went to shore up their benefits packages!<<<

Rush explianed it this way - The stimulus, which was sold as a shovel ready job creating funding went to saving public
sector union jobs - Teachers, municipal employees, etc. by preserving their jobs the stimulus insured that the union dues were collected and funneled back to the election war chest of Democrats and our Dear Reader! Our hard earned tax money pays to re-elect The criminals who are robbing us blind!! It is a money laundering scheme that would make any Chicago tug proud!!


17 posted on 02/24/2011 3:42:39 AM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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read - thug


18 posted on 02/24/2011 3:43:54 AM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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read - thug


19 posted on 02/24/2011 3:44:25 AM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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.....The criminals who are robbing us blind!! It is a money laundering scheme that would make any Chicago tug proud!!

A peak behind the curtain. This has been a long time in the making.

Follow the social activism instilled in our children and financed with OUR (never enough) Money. Americans have had enough!

School bond formula faltering - (worried school construction companies campaign for votes) Taxpayers fought back: Winning enough votes for multimillion-dollar school building programs used to be easy for school districts that followed a few simple rules:

•Schedule the election on a day when there's nothing else on the ballot, ensuring low voter turnout; •Hit up school construction companies for campaign donations and spend the money on big newspaper ads and yard signs; •Use school buildings for polling locations and encourage teachers and parents to vote. It worked perfectly for the Cypress-Fairbanks Independent School District's $713 million bond election Dec. 11, in the middle of the holiday season. School construction companies and other Cy-Fair vendors gave more than $70,000 to Citizens for Cy-Fair Bonds. Voter turnout was 4 percent, and the measure passed handily with 75 percent of the vote.

The people who run the Spring schools did all those things before last weekend's vote on a $385 million bond proposal that included eight new schools, a competition swim center and a laptop computer for every high school student. It would have cost the typical homeowner an extra $100 next year and $200 the year after.

But when the ballots were counted, Spring ISD voters had handed the school district a lopsided beating by a 3-1 ratio. Voter turnout was 10 percent, high for a bond election…..”

A CLASS STRUGGLE: Tenure of Avowed Marxist Controversy jolts TX College"In a nutshell, it means I have a fundamental disagreement with capitalism," he said. "I think that capitalism is a system based on exploitation and oppression and domination and racism and war and lots of other things.

"So I'm totally opposed to capitalism, and I think that the majority of the people of this country ought to get together and transform the system," he said. "I think we need to replace capitalism with some kind of democratic socialism."

2003: GOP bill draws teachers' angerTALLAHASSEE -- Florida's teachers union is getting a taste of political payback.

After bankrolling the unsuccessful gubernatorial bid of Democrat Bill McBride last year, the Florida Education Association is coming under attack by some Republican legislators because dues paid by its members help run political campaigns.

"I do not oppose the choice of people belonging to unions," said Sen. Mike Fasano, R-New Port Richey. "But teachers came to me with complaints of their money being spent to support candidates they didn't support."

The GOP-dominated Senate Governmental Oversight and Productivity Committee on Tuesday approved Fasano's proposal (SB 1652) to limit payroll deductions only for the cost of collective bargaining and grievance adjustment. The committee split along party lines, with six Republicans supporting the measure and three Democrats opposing it.

"This bill is telling me to shut my mouth," said Maureen Dinnen, president of the teachers union, who was visibly shaking with anger after the vote. "We voted to support candidates who were chosen based on their educational positions. "

WorldNetDaily ^ | July 14, 2005 | Joseph Farah Are These Your Teachers "The National Education Association recently concluded its annual meeting in Los Angeles - and you might be surprised what the largest teachers' union in America talked about and decided.

I mean, let's face it. The state of public education in American today is not exactly state of the art. You might think falling test scores, higher drop-out rates, and functional illiteracy of graduates - despite ever increasing taxpayer commitments - would be causes for concern and debate at a forum like this.

You would be wrong. Here are some resolutions adopted by the representative assembly of the professional association responsible for educating your kids: .............

To participate in a national boycott of Wal-Mart (Two resolutions); To fight efforts to privatize Social Security (nine separate resolutions); To add the words "other" and "multi-ethnic" in addition to "unknown" in the category of ethnicity on all forms; To commemorate the "historic merger of the National Education Association and the American Teachers Association, which occurred in 1966"; To expose health problems associated with "fragrance chemicals"; (I assume this means perfumes. Another resolution called for designating areas of NEA meetings as "fragrance-free zones."); To fight indoor air pollution (two resolutions); To make health care an organizational priority; To expand efforts to elect pro-public education candidates to Congress in 2006; To promote the designation of April as National Donate Month to promote organ and tissue donation; To push for a commemorative stamp honoring public education; To push for more collective bargaining; To study the feasibility of a boycott of Gallo wine (A separate resolution banned the serving of Gallo wine at any NEA functions.); To develop a strategic program to help NEA Republican members advance a pro-public education agenda with the party; To defend affirmative action and oppose the Michigan Civil Rights Amendment; To oppose the annual observance of "Take Your Child to Work Day" during the regular school year; To oppose all forms of privatization; To investigate the establishment of affordable housing programs for members; To respond aggressively to any inappropriate use of the words "retarded" or "gay" in the media; To fight the "regressive taxation practices of the federal government"; To support education programs for prisoners and former prisoners; To support research on women and heart disease; To push for an "exit strategy to end the U.S. military occupation of Iraq"; To oppose the Central American Free Trade Agreement; To push for debt cancellation in underdeveloped countries; To teach children about the "significant history of labor unions"; To develop a comprehensive strategy of support for homosexuality; To educate the public and members about identity theft; To explore alternatives to using latex balloons and gloves at NEA functions. That's a fair synopsis of the actions taken by the largest "education" association in America - the only union and lobby group that is actually tax-exempt by an act of Congress."

An oldie but a goodie and good links to more: NEA challenged on political outlays - Teacher's union fields "army of campaign workers"

Pasadena teacher who assigned politically charged letter writing to resign*** Williams, a member of the teachers association and president of the Pasadena Educators Association, took the letters to Austin in March. Many of the students pleaded for legislators to spare field trips, textbooks and teacher salaries from the budget ax.***

"persistently dangerous" - School-safety rankings - or just black marks?***At the heart of the discrepancy may well be a reluctance on the part of educators to report campus crime fully. A survey by the National Association of School Resource Officers found that 89 percent of school police believe crime is already underreported. "It's the scarlet letter in education today," says Mr. Trump. "Administrators have said to me privately that they would rather be academically failing than be a dangerous school." ***

20 posted on 02/24/2011 4:06:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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1 in 6 Wisconsin Workers employed in government jobs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2677883/posts

The truth behind Wisconsin collective bargaining - Teachers unions specify union-owned health insurance, reap profits.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2677463/posts

Top 10 Private and Government Employers in Wisconsin

Establishment Product or Service Size (Dec. 2004)

Wal-Mart Associates Inc
Warehouse clubs & supercenters
20,000+ employees

University of Wisconsin-Madison
Colleges & universities
10,000-19,999 employees

Milwaukee Public Schools
Elementary & secondary schools
10,000-19,999 employees

Department Of Corrections
Correctional institutions
5,000-9,999 employees

Menard, Inc.
Home centers
5,000-9,999 employees

City of Milwaukee
Executive & legislative offices, combined
5,000-9,999 employees

Kohler Co
Enameled iron & metal sanitary ware mfg.
5,000-9,999 employees

Kohl’s Department Stores Inc
Discount department stores
5,000-9,999 employees

Walgreen Co.
Pharmacies & drug stores
5,000-9,999 employees

Marshfield Clinic
HMO medical centers
5,000-9,999 employees

Source: DWD, Bureau of Workforce Information, ES-202, July 2005
http://dwd.wisconsin.gov/oea/cp_pdf/wicpw.pdf


21 posted on 02/24/2011 4:12:42 AM PST by sbMKE
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Liberal activists/teachers using RACE to wag the tail of education (pit groups against each other; heap guilt on impressionable students).

Upscale school revives a satire about race [Student actors confront their fear of offending people, as they depict a 1960s Southern town that can't function when all the black folk disappear]

TX Schools at odds in racial division - Hearne ISD sues nearby Mumford for "white flight" MUMFORD -- A little more than a decade ago, the tiny school district in this community of cotton fields and drying feed corn was a candidate for extinction: just 80 students, kindergarten through eighth grade, attending class in a 1925 schoolhouse.

Today, it is the envy of Robertson County: three new campuses stocked with computer labs for all students, televisions and VCRs in every classroom, and consistently good scores on state standardized tests.

….Hearne school board members have complained that Mumford is stealing its most academically talented students, hurting Hearne's performance on state tests. More importantly, the district loses approximately $5,500 in state aid for every student that leaves, more if the student can be categorized as one deserving additional state aid such as special education.

In 10 years, Hearne has lost hundreds of students to Mumford, many of them white. In 1993, blacks made up 47 percent of the Hearne student body, whites 28 percent and Hispanics 26 percent. In 2002, just 12 percent of the students in Hearne schools were white, 58 percent were black and 30 percent were Hispanic.

During the same period, the racial makeup of the Mumford school district went from majority Hispanic to majority white.

Hearne's attorney said this is not by accident. Henslee accuses Mumford of actively soliciting transfers.

What's more, Henslee said, the practice violates the federal desegregation order that governs Texas. While the order allows students to transfer from one school district to another as long as the receiving school district can accommodate them, it expressly prohibits transfers that will alter the racial makeup of either school district by more than 1 percent..”

A Cry in the Black Education Wilderness Links to the dumbing down of minority students (keeping 90% voting for Democrat candidates.

22 posted on 02/24/2011 4:21:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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Madison — One Republican senator is seeking to change Gov. Scott Walker’s bill to repeal most bargaining rights for public unions. But so far, most of Sen. Dale Schultz’s GOP colleagues aren’t backing his effort. Source

MADISON Wisconsin Senator Dale Schultz "Schultz is a 1975 graduate of the University of Wisconsin-Madison where he played basketball and was member of the UW national champion rowing team. He and his wife, Rachel, own and manage their family’s farm, which became a Wisconsin Century Farm in 1998. He is a member of the Wisconsin Farm Bureau, the Masons, and the Lions. In his free time, Dale enjoys, as he puts it, “watching the feathers fly” hunting game birds, golfing, and spending time with his family.

Dale and Rachel have two children, Katie, a recent graduate of UW-Madison, and Amanda, a student at UW-Madison." Madison, WI 53707-7882

23 posted on 02/24/2011 4:27:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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Sweet. Unionized slug gov layabouts vs private sector tax slaves.

This is going national.

Break out the pop corn.


24 posted on 02/24/2011 4:38:31 AM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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25 posted on 02/24/2011 4:58:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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I think people are really coming to the conclusion that Public Employee Unions are nothing more than institutionalized taxpayer spending that goes directly into the DNC Campaign coffers.

Our tax money goes to pay union wages where their forced dues are immediately decremented and a significant part of that lands Directly in the DNC Campaign War Chest to elect Democrats. So Public Employe Union Contracts are simply a legally forced free money machine for the Left Wing Politicians and they LOVE it. Bernie Madof couldn’t have designed any better than the DNC/Unions have it as it is today.

Also, with the Public Employes Union there’s no need r justification to smite the boogie-man evil rich CEO, because the American People are who the ones who pay their wages.

Add into that the fact that their contract deals are so much more lucrative where they also don’t pay for health care or their incredible pensions and you have a Nation-wide revolt against said Public Employee Unions.

Normal people are looking at what they have in the private sector and seeing the ugly disparity of benefits/wages that the Public Employees get and they are angry enough to finally do something to put a stop to it.


26 posted on 02/24/2011 4:58:40 AM PST by R0CK3T
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You’re damn right!


27 posted on 02/24/2011 5:11:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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Uh Oh!!! Expect Obama to send bailout money to KalifOrnia!


28 posted on 02/24/2011 5:40:10 AM PST by eaglestar
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