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San Jose Officials Warn of Massive Police and Fire Layoffs
Mercury News.com ^ | Feb. 17, 2011 | Sean Webby

Posted on 02/24/2011 9:37:34 AM PST by katiedidit1

Sketching out a worst-case scenario of San Jose's budget meltdown, city officials warned this week that they could lay off as many as 349 police officers and 145 firefighters, slashing close to a quarter of the city's public safety employees.

The city is also looking at millions of dollars in other cuts, including shutting off neighborhood

streetlights for much of the night and eliminating some gang-prevention programs.

There has never been a major layoff of police officers in the city's modern history. But last year San Jose laid off 49 firefighters, and this is the second year in a row the Police Department has faced layoffs.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calif; crushliberalism; democratmayor; democrats; hopeychangey; liberals; unions; wisconsinshowdown
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1 posted on 02/24/2011 9:37:38 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: katiedidit1

When there’s no money, there is no money.


2 posted on 02/24/2011 9:39:18 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: justice14

Give em IOUs. That will work.


3 posted on 02/24/2011 9:40:04 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: katiedidit1
This scenario has been mentioned numerous times by other posters. When faced with budgetary constraints, they don't slash pensions, bennies, and bloated bureaucracies... they cut essential services to “teach” the insolent public a lesson.
4 posted on 02/24/2011 9:41:27 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: katiedidit1

This sounds like what the mafia does when you don’t pay them protection money.


5 posted on 02/24/2011 9:41:33 AM PST by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average. Politicians come from the other half.)
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To: justice14

“When there’s no money, there is no money.”

No the money has been siphoned for outrageous compensation, particularly retirement compensation (pensions and health care). San Jose like many government units is caught in a vice between demands of retirees and the needs of taxpayers. Since the retiree demands take precedence over everything else, taxpayer needs will just be ignored.


6 posted on 02/24/2011 9:43:40 AM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Frantzie

That’s as good as cash.


7 posted on 02/24/2011 9:44:41 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: katiedidit1
And what other sacrosanct programs aren't being cut, such as greenways, clean energy, carbon offsets, commission on multiculturalism, commission on California quality of life, etc. etc?
8 posted on 02/24/2011 9:44:42 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29

No doubt the bloated salaries and benefits of the administrators represented by the unions will be preserved — at least for now — by the savings generated from layoffs of highly publicly sensitive workers such as police and fire.


9 posted on 02/24/2011 9:50:00 AM PST by glennaro
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To: katiedidit1

In a sane world, the police and fire departments would be warning that the “officials” will have to be fired.


10 posted on 02/24/2011 9:50:41 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: katiedidit1

Just a wild guess - is San Jose a “sanctuary city”?


11 posted on 02/24/2011 9:51:30 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: katiedidit1

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Just do it already. And as the economy continues to crash and burn. Just remember, you looting parasites in government finally did it. You killed the host.

And like all parasites, they will do their most damage at the end of the Hosts existence.


12 posted on 02/24/2011 9:52:25 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: katiedidit1

But they can’t get rid of all those Personal Assistants to the Sub-Director of the Assistant Superintendent to the Secretary of the Deputy to the Commissioner of Dog Walking. They’re waaaaay too important.


13 posted on 02/24/2011 9:53:19 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer.")
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To: Frantzie
Give em IOUs. That will work.

That's what state and local governments did to fund the golden bebefits packages that were "collectively bargained" for over the last 30+ years. See how well that worked?

14 posted on 02/24/2011 9:53:46 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: newfreep

Just a wild guess - is San Jose a “sanctuary city”?

Technically, No.

Realistically, if ICE they made a sweep thru east san jose, half the populace would be deported.. and back in a week.


15 posted on 02/24/2011 9:53:58 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: katiedidit1
Isn't it odd that city hall bureaucrats never get laid off?
16 posted on 02/24/2011 9:55:14 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 765 of our national holiday from reality. - It's almost 3 AM)
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To: katiedidit1

Poor Chuck Reed. my old councilman and Dad of ‘Warthog Gal’ of Iraqi fame.

In a cesspool that the south bay political scene has become, he is one of the more sane.. Cut Chuck Cut. Show Moonbeam how it is done.


17 posted on 02/24/2011 9:56:02 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: martin_fierro

SV Ping


18 posted on 02/24/2011 9:56:37 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 765 of our national holiday from reality. - It's almost 3 AM)
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To: katiedidit1

They never lay off any of the anonymous “city officials”. It’s always a threat to lay off Police and Fire personnel. I suppose that is so as to hold the taxpaying citizenry hostage to their demands.


19 posted on 02/24/2011 9:56:47 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Goodbye, tagline! It's not you, it's me.)
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To: katiedidit1

Realization that the public coffers are dry has gone viral.


20 posted on 02/24/2011 9:57:02 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: katiedidit1

This is a democrat mayor! also, in Paterson, NJ the democrat mayor is laying off police officers...where is the outrage by Obama and the lefties on this?


21 posted on 02/24/2011 9:58:05 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: NormsRevenge

KC - Killer Chick.

First person ever to land an A-10 with all the hydraulics shot out.


22 posted on 02/24/2011 9:58:05 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 765 of our national holiday from reality. - It's almost 3 AM)
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To: katiedidit1

Translated: They’d rather fire young people and keep old people with lavish income and benefits than adjust the level of income and benefits so the city is safer with more people and young prospects are maintained in the system, providing jobs for them and a future for the institution.

Fire the young; Enrich the old!


23 posted on 02/24/2011 9:58:38 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: businessprofessor

ha ha and done by a democrat mayor:)


24 posted on 02/24/2011 9:58:49 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: businessprofessor

ha ha and done by a democrat mayor:)


25 posted on 02/24/2011 9:58:58 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: katiedidit1

Police don’t protect you. They show up after you have been robbed, raped, broken in to. More than half the time they don’t even make an arrest. If they do, half aren’t even charged or sentenced to jail. Not that that stops criminals.

This country got by just fine with out police for three hundred years. Worried about your safety? Get a gun and balls. Got a lot of stuff? Protect it. Or hire others to protect it. Can not afford it? Sell some some stuff, you got too much stuff. Or move. Or not. You are an adult. Why should others be taxed to protect your stuff?

Police are welfare security. They are to security what welfare housing projects are to real neighbors.

Personally, I wouldn’t mind a couple of years of lawlessness( of a type ). Let the scum, dolts, expose themselves so that they can be shotgun’d down and bleed in the streets, business, and homes.

Of course naturally this will result in starving lawyers, laid off judges, prison hack jailers and legions of time serving, clock punching, paper shufflers of the security welfare state. Good.


26 posted on 02/24/2011 9:59:06 AM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: null and void

One heckuva pilot to pull that off.


27 posted on 02/24/2011 10:01:13 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Frantzie

Very sad to see a good department lose slots but...Let California citizens defend themselves rather than pushing fear of prosecution and litigation for supplanting an expensive government/union function when they use self-defense.

We then will be able to get along with fewer police across the state...but it will be harder to be a bad guy...


28 posted on 02/24/2011 10:01:24 AM PST by colonialhk (Elect Veterans not Lawyers)
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To: Leisler

Will Obama send his union thugs to San Jose? the mayor is a democrat. Note, they are also shutting off alot of the streetlights.


29 posted on 02/24/2011 10:01:47 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: justice14

They have plenty of money. It’s priorities.

What they are really saying is they don’t have enough money to pay for their pet programs and projects and then pay for the essential services that should be their first responsibility.


30 posted on 02/24/2011 10:03:13 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: katiedidit1

The streetlight thing is a reminder to keep every taxpayer aware they are the bad guy.


31 posted on 02/24/2011 10:04:58 AM PST by colonialhk (Elect Veterans not Lawyers)
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To: katiedidit1

There was a chart linked here a while back that showed the top few hundred city employees making big six figures.


32 posted on 02/24/2011 10:05:25 AM PST by soycd
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To: justice14

Do you know the way to San Jose? I don’t see it on the map anymore.


33 posted on 02/24/2011 10:07:26 AM PST by JPG (As WI goes, so goes the nation. Thank you, Gov Walker.)
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To: katiedidit1
They say they need to do it.... let's see them do it. Put up or shut up. There's no money left. C-ya!

That money would be better spent putting a personal defense weapon in each home.

34 posted on 02/24/2011 10:11:06 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: xzins

That is what these massive debts are doing. Spending money on existing generations income level and passing the costs, with interest, on future unborn( if they are born ) generations.

Generational theft via impersonal government schemes.

Fedgov and the Mini-Me’s are running out of suckers though.

Everyone is pissed at them. Classically old time savers are getting killed with the Zero Interest Rate policy, pensions too. Really, I get the impression that we are swirling around the financial toilet bowel. This isn’t 1929. It is worse. Back then Fedgov was 5 percent of the economy, so there was a lot of room for them to jump into the economy and kick and kick and kick start it. People back then remember little rally pioneer stories from their parents. Today, if you imposed a middle class life style, diet, economy of say even 1950 upon an American, he’d cry poverty.

We have one thing going for us. The US is, believe it or not, a flight to safety. We are by order of magnitudes less messed up then most anywhere in the world. So, we have that going for us, which is nice.( Carl Spackler quote from Caddy Shack )


35 posted on 02/24/2011 10:11:43 AM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: katiedidit1

They can’t close this down?

http://www.sanjoseca.gov/planning/


36 posted on 02/24/2011 10:12:39 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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37 posted on 02/24/2011 10:13:20 AM PST by martin_fierro (Hooray PinkyPie!)
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To: katiedidit1

Why do they never lay off parks and recreation, water and sewer, garbage, librarians, custodians and clerks or other city workers? Always police and fire...................


38 posted on 02/24/2011 10:13:33 AM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: katiedidit1
They'll cut the police but keep their super slick, ultra modern brand new city hall complex.

A-holes.

39 posted on 02/24/2011 10:13:41 AM PST by skeeter
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To: katiedidit1

My car has headlamps.

Did streetlights stop drive by shooting, rapes, break in?

No

I suppose the traditional after dinner walk and a smoke with the wife custom in San Jose is now going to stop.

( Did I say smoking?)


40 posted on 02/24/2011 10:15:23 AM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: katiedidit1

Bet they could trim this a bit:

http://www.sanjoseca.gov/esd/


41 posted on 02/24/2011 10:17:35 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: katiedidit1
They can't pay cops and firemen, but they are trying to hire a community organizer:

https://cityjobs.sanjoseca.gov/psc/prod/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/HRS_HRAM.HRS_CE.GBL

42 posted on 02/24/2011 10:18:37 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: SpaceBar

You are 100% right on. The retired Barney Fife’s $12,000 a month pension and no co-pay healtcare benefit plan stays in place, they just cut the cops and firemen on the street, now.


43 posted on 02/24/2011 10:21:19 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Red Badger

Why do we even have libraries? It can’t be for the ‘utes. They couldn’t read a book if you machine pressed it into their skulls.

Libraries used to be private. You wanted to join, you paid a fee. If you wanted to keep a bit of your money, you didn’t pay and didn’t get charged and didn’t get books. You know, like a Big Mac at McDonalds. Pay=get. No pay=no get. Want? Get money, pay. Simple concept, really.

The libraries I go to are just so old cheap readers get others in the town to buy their trash fiction books for them. Let them buy their own, form a club, what ever.


44 posted on 02/24/2011 10:21:55 AM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: wac3rd

That’s the future, only more so.

BTW, retired Barney Fife has moved to low tax Texas, or Florida to get away from the high local and state taxes.


45 posted on 02/24/2011 10:23:48 AM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: justice14

But there is no way in hell they are going to lay off the Sub Secretary to the Assistant to the Director of Office of Chicken Excretion Eradication! THAT person is just too important to daily operations!


46 posted on 02/24/2011 10:24:17 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: SpaceBar

Correct. The taxes here are ridiculous. Our Santa Clara County sales tax is 9.25%. Gas prices are getting close to $4 per gallon again, the cost of living in terms of housing costs and energy? Forgettaboutit!!!! There is no where else to go. The city must start living within its means like it’s citizens. Streetlights? hell, those are so dim anyway you can’t even tell they are on half the time. why even have them? I have security lights on my house and headlights as has been mentioned, on my vehicle (latest in technology here in Silicon Valley) :)


47 posted on 02/24/2011 10:24:38 AM PST by sappy (criminalDEMs)
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To: Red Badger
Why do they never lay off parks and recreation

In our state, usually the state parks are the first things to close. Tell me again why you need to close trees and grass and dirt?
48 posted on 02/24/2011 10:25:33 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: Red Badger
Why do they never lay off parks and recreation, water and sewer, garbage, librarians, custodians and clerks or other city workers? Always police and fire...................

I, for one, would want my water and sewer services to be the last to get shutdown...

49 posted on 02/24/2011 10:25:57 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: newfreep

Si


50 posted on 02/24/2011 10:25:57 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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