[livius]

Neither the cap-and-trade bill nor EPA carbon regulation is needed to lower US emissions. The bureaucratic/environmentalist alliance wants these measures to increase public control over our economy, not to fight global warming.

Every single thing this government does is intended to do that.

[steelyourfaith]

Agreed. That is my inescapable conclusion, too. But hey, what’s a connie movement for if not to create a totalitarian state?