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Mother of girl featured in shocking anti-abortion billboard is outraged by ad: 'I want an apology'
NY Daily News ^ | 2/25/11 | Erin Einhorn AND Rich Schapiro

Posted on 02/25/2011 5:59:27 AM PST by thefactor

A controversial billboard in SoHo equating abortion among black women with genocide was yanked Thursday night.

Bowing to heavy pressure, Lamar Advertising Co. agreed to pull the ad above Sixth Ave. and Watts St., which featured a picture of a young black girl below the message, "The most dangerous place for African Americans is in the womb."

The shocking billboard blind-sided New Jersey mom Tricia Fraser, who was furious that her 6-year-old daughter, Anissa, was featured in the anti-abortion group Life Always's ad.

"I want an apology," Fraser, 36, told the Daily News. "I'm happy that it's [being taken down], but at the same time I'm concerned that they can use that image again."

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; africanamericans; billboard; greed; nyc; prolife
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I know the fact that this billboard is coming down has been posted, but this is new info. The mother of the girl used in the photo wants an apology (and probably money, IMHO).

Of course she shouldn't get an apology. This just further illustrates that people are focusing on the wrong issues here. Boggles the mind.

Some interesting comments under the story at the link.

1 posted on 02/25/2011 5:59:31 AM PST by thefactor
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To: Steelfish; Mrs. Frogjerk

New info regarding the story you posted on yesterday. Get a load of this.


2 posted on 02/25/2011 6:01:27 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

Do I dare ask:

What does the girl’s FATHER think about it?


3 posted on 02/25/2011 6:02:25 AM PST by rfreedom4u ("A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.")
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To: thefactor
The Inconvenient Truth.
4 posted on 02/25/2011 6:02:37 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: rfreedom4u
To paraphrase the Stooges:

"Oh, a wise guy, huh?"

5 posted on 02/25/2011 6:03:46 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

6 posted on 02/25/2011 6:05:03 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

Truth hurts don’t it babe!


7 posted on 02/25/2011 6:05:34 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: thefactor
Did the folks who posted the billboard have the rights to the girl's picture, and her (or her mother's, since she's a minor) permission to use it?

If anybody plastered my kid's face on billboards all over town without my permission, there'd be Hell to pay.

8 posted on 02/25/2011 6:07:18 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: thefactor
'I want an apology'

Hey Tricia, how's it feel to 'want'?

9 posted on 02/25/2011 6:07:54 AM PST by Roccus (Who knows?........Who cares?........Why bother?)
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To: thefactor
"Of course she shouldn't get an apology."
If a picture of a minor was used without the legal guardians permission, she should not only get an apology, but a very large financial settlement...I do not care what the subject of the billboard was, they violated the law by using a picture of a minor without authorization.......
10 posted on 02/25/2011 6:09:40 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Of course they had permission. The mom took her kids to a modeling agency a couple years ago. They took pics of the kids and put them in the 'stock' photo pile.

Then the billboard people look through the stock photos and buy the rights to use the photo for the billboard.

The mom was compensated when the photos were taken and may have gotten some more money when someone bought the rights to her daughter's image.

The mother signed away all rights to the photos the day they were taken. She sold her daughter's image.

11 posted on 02/25/2011 6:11:36 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: joe fonebone

See my #11.


12 posted on 02/25/2011 6:12:14 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
Do you know that to be true, or is that merely speculation on what you think (might have|should have|probably) happened?
13 posted on 02/25/2011 6:14:32 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: thefactor

OK ... It’s right there in the bloody article.

DUH!!!! (Smacks forehead)

I guess there are a few lessons in there ...


14 posted on 02/25/2011 6:15:44 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: thefactor

Once you sign over the rights, tough noogies. The image was probably from a stock photography site.


15 posted on 02/25/2011 6:15:55 AM PST by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: thefactor

Truth is over rated, so tear it down.


16 posted on 02/25/2011 6:16:16 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: ArrogantBustard
FTA

She knew the photos could be used as stock images, but never imagined her daughter might become the face of an anti-abortion campaign centered around African Americans. (emphasis mine)

17 posted on 02/25/2011 6:16:51 AM PST by Roccus (Who knows?........Who cares?........Why bother?)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Please go to the link and read the article. It’s a legit paper, not a blog.


18 posted on 02/25/2011 6:18:09 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I would be willing to bet that the image licensing agency has a signed model release form from the mother.

Go to istock.com or bigstock.com, any of the microstock agencies, and look for "children". My husband and I upload to istock, and any time we have a picture of a person that is in any way identifiable, even if shot from the back so that the person's face isn't shown at all, we have to upload a signed model release with the image. If the person is a minor, the parent has to sign the model release.

Bottom line, when you sign a model release, the photographer owns the rights to that image, and can sell it. It can show up anywhere.

The problem with these images is you don't know where they will show up. We've sold several hundred of one image, and only because of the fact that the purchaser wanted to credit the image in a magazine, did we learn it was going to be the cover. We've discovered others by accident, but most to the time we never know.

19 posted on 02/25/2011 6:18:11 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( T.G., global warming denier.)
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To: thefactor
I thought the girl looked cute. Having her face up there longer might have expanded the chance that she would see additional opportunities down the road.

ML/NJ

20 posted on 02/25/2011 6:18:30 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: joe fonebone
they violated the law by using a picture of a minor without authorization
Too bad you didn't read the story first...
21 posted on 02/25/2011 6:18:30 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: ArrogantBustard; thefactor

Go to the link. It’s all there.


22 posted on 02/25/2011 6:18:31 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Roccus; ArrogantBustard

Sorry, I type slooooooooow.


23 posted on 02/25/2011 6:19:02 AM PST by Roccus (Who knows?........Who cares?........Why bother?)
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To: joe fonebone
If a picture of a minor was used without the legal guardians permission, she should not only get an apology, but a very large financial settlement...I do not care what the subject of the billboard was, they violated the law by using a picture of a minor without authorization...

As much as I agree with the premise of the poster, I agree with you that the use of the child's image without permission was a huge no-no. We can't pick and choose when the laws should be enforced. We are a nation of laws and must apply them evenly - regardless of how we feel about the underlying issues.

24 posted on 02/25/2011 6:19:41 AM PST by JaguarXKE (Life - It's 10 percent circumstances and 90 percent how you react to circumstances - Sarah Palin)
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To: thefactor
The mother signed away all rights to the photos the day they were taken. She sold her daughter's image.

She could no more understand this concept than she could understand the general theory of relativity. The only thing she understood was the money.

25 posted on 02/25/2011 6:20:16 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: ArrogantBustard

The article says the mom took her daughters to a modeling agency and was aware that their pictures could be used as stock images.

Now she’s mad that her daughter’s picture was used as a stock image.


26 posted on 02/25/2011 6:20:43 AM PST by Nickname
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To: joe fonebone

It almost always pays to read the whole article before ........


27 posted on 02/25/2011 6:21:46 AM PST by BilLies (no)
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To: ArrogantBustard

According to the linked article, that is in fact the case. She sold the images for use in “stock” images. She does not have control on the use of that image.

Some years ago, the image of a young New York man showed up on billboards throughout the subway promoting HIV testing. Said man was embarrased when recognized but that’s the way it goes when you sell for stock.


28 posted on 02/25/2011 6:21:53 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: thefactor

If the mother legally signed away the rights to her daughter’s image, and the image was used legally, then perhaps she should be on the receiving end of a lawsuit.


29 posted on 02/25/2011 6:26:42 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: thefactor

A few thoughts:

The comment by the liberal calling himself RenHoek is exactly what political discourse is supposed to be about.

The hysteria here is interesting. To those criticizing this in the article, this is not in bad taste or even merely racist, it’s an atrocity and dangerous.

Another interesting aspect is that I’m not aware of any article about this mentioning the reason for the ad’s tagline: It’s the truth. Abortion kills more black people than the next 7 causes of death combined. It’s killed approximately 7 times as many as were killed by the slave trade. But Reverend Al says don’t talk about it during Black History Month, so...

I have three questions for the moron quoted in the article who is a professor of social work:

1. If you (absurdly) think this billboard is dangerous because of the message it sends to African-American children, how do you think kids feel when they realize their entire country has decided they are disposable?

2. Do you think drunk driving ads imply that every person who drives is a drunk driver? Do you believe the illustrated warning on the side of 5 gallon plastic buckets warning parents not to let their child play around it (because they could fall in and drown) send the message to children that Mommy wants to drown them in a bucket?

3. You refer to neighborhood children as “little people of color.” Yet, wouldn’t you be offended if a white person poined at a group of black children and described them as colored people?


30 posted on 02/25/2011 6:29:12 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: thefactor
"This is an atrocity," said Darcey Merritt, 42, who is African-American and a professor of social work at New York University.

In the leftist mindset millions of black children killed is perfectly fine (just so long as they don't have to eat ramen noodles), but one picture on a politically discomforting billboard is an atrocity. What a screwed up value system.

"If a little person of color walks buy and sees this, what message does that give about his or her mother, about other black people and their worth?" Merritt said. "This is dangerous."

A better question would be "What does the existence of Margret Sanger's followers at Planned Infanticide have to say about their opinion on the worth of black people?" If anything this picture says to the mother "Good job for having your child rather than killing her."

31 posted on 02/25/2011 6:30:27 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: joe fonebone

Dude, what do yo think a stock photo is?


32 posted on 02/25/2011 6:31:21 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: JaguarXKE

What do you think a stock photo is?


33 posted on 02/25/2011 6:32:58 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: thefactor

She’s just seeing more dollar signs.


34 posted on 02/25/2011 6:33:30 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: thefactor

Imagine if that image were for a pro-Planned Parenthood campaign, suggesting we don’t need any more of “them.” I saw a young woman whom I know post a message to that effect as her response to those wretched Republicans trying to withhold PP funding!

As it is, the sponsoring group has gotten FAR more ink than had those who oppose it just shut up. Things have a way of working out.


35 posted on 02/25/2011 6:34:19 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: thefactor

I can only shake my head at the sight of someone aiding the genocide of her own race.


36 posted on 02/25/2011 6:37:32 AM PST by Seruzawa (What's Democrat's legacy? Almost 1/2 million dead US soldiers and collapsed cities.)
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To: thefactor

Others have said this already. But it bears repeating.

The truth hurts.
Killing millions of Black babies is “ok” in the leftist mind, but reminding people of it is an “atrocity.” What screwed-up value systems liberals have.


37 posted on 02/25/2011 6:37:48 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

the factor knows what he’s talking about. That’s how it works.


38 posted on 02/25/2011 6:40:42 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: ArrogantBustard
She admitted she had sold the rights to the photo on last night's news. She can go fly a kite as far as I.m concerned.
39 posted on 02/25/2011 6:55:20 AM PST by Woodman
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To: joe fonebone
She admitted she had sold the rights to the photo on last night's news. She can go fly a kite as far as I.m concerned.
40 posted on 02/25/2011 6:56:06 AM PST by Woodman
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To: Roccus

This woman wants a cash settlement from someone, anyone.

After all, she’s outraged!

Kah-Ching!


41 posted on 02/25/2011 6:56:59 AM PST by RexBeach (There is no such thing as a good tax.- Winston Churchill)
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To: Mr. Silverback
You can't ask rational questions to irrational people.

The bottom line is this: these people do not see abortion as anything more than another form of birth control. It's even easier than going to buy a condom!

They don't see it as 'death' so they are unable to equate it with gun violence or dying as a result of drunk driving.

42 posted on 02/25/2011 6:59:46 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: rfreedom4u

A few trips to the Maury Povich show should clear that up.


43 posted on 02/25/2011 7:12:32 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (Buy Lot's Of Ammo and Train (til it hurts...))
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To: thefactor
"I want an apology,"(..and Damages!!!) Fraser, 36, told the Daily News.
44 posted on 02/25/2011 7:18:50 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: thefactor

Picture it, Manhattan, 1986. I’m sitting in a waiting room at a modeling agency, because so many people have said I should be there. Grim young moms and other perfect children are all around. My mom has already made up her supermind about it, but agreed to come, to oblige a friend who is certain I’m the next Brooke Shields. Mommy: You don’t need the money, the attention, or the consequences. Why jump on the meat wagon?
But I insisted. Then she read the contract, and my career was nipped in the bud.
No regrets.


45 posted on 02/25/2011 7:26:40 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (BYOST -- bring your own sark tag. Thank you.)
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To: thefactor

Well, if this is the case, then tough crap for the mommy and the daughter....it just goes to show you need to actually read what you sign...


46 posted on 02/25/2011 7:47:00 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: BilLies

oh no it does not!!! I have been proudly commenting without reading the entire article for over 6 years now... :)


47 posted on 02/25/2011 7:48:35 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: joe fonebone

I would “Like” your comment if there was a “Like” button on FR!


48 posted on 02/25/2011 7:56:05 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: KarlInOhio
"If a little person of color walks buy and sees this, what message does that give about his or her mother, about other black people and their worth?" Merritt said.

Is this the Emmanual Lewis test?

49 posted on 02/25/2011 7:59:00 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it -Voltaire)
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To: thefactor
It just gets better and better doesn't it!

An apology! An apology for saying that the life of a child such as hers should be spared! I mean the very gall of these people. The mother of this child is just as sickening as Al and his ilk. I refuse to call him Rev. Al by the way because he doesn't deserve that title!

What the hell is wrong with this world?! I can barely tolerate living in it anymore! If it weren't for all of the awesome people on these threads and this site in general, I would say that there isn't much hope for it really. However, people like you and many others on here do give me some hope that we can turn it all around someday!

50 posted on 02/25/2011 8:39:14 AM PST by Mrs. Frogjerk
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