Skip to comments.Virginia's novel approach to ending abortion. Will it stand up in court?
Posted on 02/26/2011 8:08:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind
The 2006 film Amazing Grace depicts William Wilberforce's campaign to end the slave trade in Great Britain. A scene from the movie depicts the abolitionist Members of Parliament discussing how to proceed in the legislature after numerous failures. The issue had become so polarized that a direct vote on the slave trade was a losing proposition. The following dialogue between Wilberforce and fellow Member of Parliament James Stephen (who was about to present his eye witness account of slave operations to the rest of Parliament) ensues:
Stephen: If we go to Parliament with this evidence, there'll be sympathy, there'll be concern, but it'll be just the same as every other time.
Wilberforce: Have you come back to preach hopelessness?
Stephen: No. No, I've had an idea. In my law books I might have stumbled across something and I want to propose it as a strategy. Nosus Decipio. It's Latin. Loosely translated, it means..."we cheat".
Under the legislation, any physician's office performing five or more first trimester abortions a month would be classified as a hospital, subject to special regulations established by the state Board of Health within the next 280 days.
About time the Left got a little taste of its own medicine.
I don’t know why they didn’t think of this years ago. The abortion clinics don’t have to go through any kind of inspection, like other hospitals and clinics do. I’m not sure exactly how they get inspected, but, if my memory services, I don’t think they get inspected at all.
This approach would be very hard to oppose, even if you approve of abortion.
Most abortions are dirty cesspitts, rarely cleaned, with septic conditions. They are a terrible danger to young mothers as well as to the babies whom they kill.
And if something goes wrong, it’s not like a hospital, where they can be treated in place. An ambulance has to be called to take them to a real hospital, and the delay may be deadly. Assuming that they even bother to call an ambulance.
And in most states the pro-aborts have agreed never to inspect these abortuaries. If they were subjected even to reasonable medical standards, it would be very costly to bring them up to standard.
But it’s hard to make the “freedom of choice” argument if you ignore the health and welfare of the mothers who go there.
Nosus decipio is nonsense, gibberish. Whoever wrote this is illiterate in Latin.
Yup about time.
No reason why Virginia can’t have its own OSHA.
“In all the Internet citations of the phrase, the word nosus is never explained, but (as in this Wikipedia citation) the verb decipio (”I cheat”) is frequently referred to. Nosus does not look like Latin at all. It occurs to me that it might be a misspelling for notus (pparticiple of nosco, “I know”) so our phrase could mean something like “I am a known cheat.”
Looks like a phrase made up by someone for a film, and now assumed to be accurate.
“Nosus decipio is nonsense, gibberish.”
I assume nos decipio would be correct?
“Looks like a phrase made up by someone for a film, and now assumed to be accurate.”
That was my impression until I ran across this:
I don’t know who compiled it, but it seems unlikely they would have allowed a popular film to be the source of their translation.
Could it perhaps be better rendered as “I know, therefore I cheat”?? That seems to fit the meaning here.
No, because nos is first person plural and decipio is first person singular. Since nos can also be an accusative object as well as a nominative subject, it’s possible to read it as “decipio nos” (I deceive us) but that makes no sense in the context of the story.
Whoever wrote this is clueless.
No, nosco never takes the form of nos or nosus. As it stands, it’s gibberish.
All things happen for a reason, and now, the timing may be better than ever since Kermit Gosnell is out there as a poster child. In fact, I'd like to see that be the tipping point in order to give some sense of purpose to that horror.
Thanks. My memory of a single year of high school Latin taken 40 years ago obviously has dimmed. So if it said “nos decipiamus” or whatever the first person plural is, it would have been right? “We deceive” makes more sense that “I deceive” in the context of the movie (which I never saw, but now am motivated to add to NetFlix).
Yeah, except that nos decipiamus could mean either “we deceive someone else” with the someone else understood rather than specified or “we deceive ourselves”—though normally the latter would be “nosmetipsos decipiamus” or something like that.
And you don’t need the nos at all if you mean “we deceive us” — you’d just say, “decipamus.”
But it doesn’t say “decipiamus.” It’s gibberish. Must have been too cheap to pay a real consultant.
pro-lifers have been complaining for decades that abortion clinics were held to medical standards. It’s probably mostly just a result of electoral changes and a growing awareness that the back-alley remained the location for abortions, after RvW as much as before. Pro-lifers have been saying this for years but the abortion lobbey always protected themselves with the medical regulation people. It’s taken this long to build enough grass roots support, and I suppose the Gosnell case helped catalyze things.
It’s not that no one thought of this before. It’s that our pleas to regulate the clinics like any other “medical facility” fell on deaf ears.
that abortion clinics were held to
that abortion clinics were NOT held to
I didn’t mean to imply this legislation came about because of Gosnell...I know it had been an approach thought of some time ago, and you’re right about the changing electoral demographics. Nevertheless, the coincidence between this coming up with the Gosnell case (as well as Lila Rose’s undercover stings) will make it very, very difficult for any person with any political aspirations to defend “common-sense regulation” of the abortion industry.
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