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Chickaloon Village presents it case against Coal Mining to United Nations Expert on the...
Castle Mountain Coalition (website) ^ | Feb 22, 2011 | Mat Valley Coalition

Posted on 02/26/2011 8:49:52 PM PST by ASOC

Chickaloon Native Village, a federally-recognized Athabascan Indian Tribal government in Alaska, filed a communication to the United Nations Independent Expert on the human right to water and sanitation in conjunction with her first official visit to the United States, which began today.

Chickaloon Village’s submission asserts that the new open-pit coal strip mine in its traditional territory proposed by the Usibelli Corporation would contaminate local drinking water sources as well as rivers, streams and groundwater that support salmon, moose and other animals and plants vital for subsistence, religious and cultural practices. The US Federal Government and the State of Alaska have, to date, not responded to Chickaloon’s firmly-stated opposition to the mine.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: alaska; coal; native
LAtest kurffufal over NIMBY with a twist - a local Native village (pop 213) council has gone to the UN for help.

There are a substntial number of others (whites) in the Valley area opposed to the mining, which will take place in/on/around an old Navy coal mine.

The developer is Alaskan, the battle lines are drawn.

I chose this site/URL as there are no restrictions, if you bother to look at local news sites, you might find the comments both unsypathic to the Natives and intersting in thier content.

I am not a fan of coal, but this is to be sold out of country AFIK. So, rather than take their case to the local court, state court, to the DNR (state agency) they go right to the UN as an oppressed minority.

Words fail me.

Oh, the developer has all the required permits, leases, and has followed the state and federal law to the T.

It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

1 posted on 02/26/2011 8:49:59 PM PST by ASOC
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To: thackney; GATOR NAVY

ping....


2 posted on 02/26/2011 8:51:00 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: ASOC
Let the chikaloons (who makes this stuff up..?) warm their buts in an Alaskan winter with their breath.
3 posted on 02/26/2011 9:02:14 PM PST by mmercier
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To: ASOC
Chickaloon Village? Sounds like the ideal retirement community for Sheila Jackson Lee.

And while we're at it, Congressman Wu needs to move to Chuckanut Bay.

4 posted on 02/26/2011 9:11:49 PM PST by rfp1234 (Le Parti du The'. Ne marchez pas sur moi!)
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To: ASOC

Coal mining is a dirty business, and quite unsafe — as New Zealand found out tragically, just before Christmas, at the Pike River mine.

Bleeding-edge environmentally-friendly mine, apparently. Big methane explosion. 29 men buried. After many days of frantic rescue effort, the mine was sealed.


5 posted on 02/26/2011 9:13:13 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: mmercier

If a savage wants salmon, let ‘em buy it like others do.

If they want to catch a wild salmon, let ‘em hire a guide and pay like the rest of us do.

I am more than tired of the entitlement mentality snivellers trying to destroy America’s economy.


6 posted on 02/26/2011 9:14:10 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: mmercier
They are an Ahtna Athabascan Tribe.

Must be serious, they have a website and everything.

http://www.chickaloon.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=124&Itemid=129

I am not saying they don't have a point. I am saying they have plentiful avenues for pushing their complaint other than the UN. : b

7 posted on 02/26/2011 9:15:58 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: mmercier
They are an Ahtna Athabascan Tribe.

Must be serious, they have a website and everything.

http://www.chickaloon.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=124&Itemid=129

I am not saying they don't have a point. I am saying they have plentiful avenues for pushing their complaint other than the UN. : b

8 posted on 02/26/2011 9:17:03 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: ASOC

I wonder how much illegal money is being siphoned into the UN?


9 posted on 02/26/2011 9:17:17 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: GladesGuru

OPen pit mine.

The stream in question is NOT open for fishing. The stream was reclaimed by use of US Fish & Wildlife funds, not out of the village pocket as they would have you believe.

They are not savages, but did go to US schools.....


10 posted on 02/26/2011 9:19:11 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: ASOC

“They are not savages, but did go to US schools.....”

That, alone, would be enough to qualify them as dangerous to the Republic. Look at what slouches across the stage at graduation time at your local publik skools.

;-(


11 posted on 02/26/2011 9:29:19 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: ASOC

They should mine it for all it’s worth, this isn’t the only great coal find in Alaska.


12 posted on 02/26/2011 9:34:25 PM PST by dila813
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To: GladesGuru
Those who live in a tribal village appealing to the UN are pathetic, at best. Generally dead if in a non western country.

Do not know if Libya's representative on the UNHRC still holds position, but that situation kind of demonstrates what the un is good for.

These bitches will watch a member state machine gun down peaceful protesting citizens from their respective states with armor or aireal platforms...

Then condemn Israel for whatever.

13 posted on 02/26/2011 9:36:20 PM PST by mmercier (freak on a leash)
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To: ASOC

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I lived just a few miles downstream from the Chickaloon People’s Commune, and generally found that many people in that community treated outsiders with derision - a fancy of way of saying that they were anti-white racists - and walked around slumped to one side from the enormous chips on their shoulders. You may not know this, but everything in “their” country was a Edenic paradise until the arrival of disease-ridden, foolish, industrial-living “white people” who are supposedly out of touch with the potent spirits of Mother Earth. The Chickaloon community would be quite distressed to learn that they’re actually fully Americanized, as shown by their reliance on faux racial and political posturing and the overuse of nuisance lawsuits. Yawn.


14 posted on 02/26/2011 9:48:53 PM PST by redpoll
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To: ASOC
This area is a few miles from where I live.. All thats there are a few streams not large ones.. I doubt they would be effected.. Many Alaskan Indian (tribal councils) performed voter fraud to elect Lisa Murcowski..

They must be on board the democrat Treason Train..

15 posted on 02/26/2011 10:34:18 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: redpoll
Ouch, ha, you are going to laugh; but I actually know Gary Harrison; respect him for being a mover & shaker though I don't agree with all his political idears. We lived in Sutton many years back, knew all his relatives (neighbors) and pretty much got along with everybody;;; even all the White greenies there, bunch of them too, ha ha. Long history of ground water problems from state oil tanks leaking i Sutton; being covered up.

I remember many years back when he didn't vote with all the other tribal leaders when Phony Tony had this deal giving the 6 villages 20 million to get them to give up their sovereignty claims. Had to be 100% agreement or money didn't happen. Gary stood up and announced his vote couldn't be bought for 20 mill or 200 mill and I watched it live on tv, about fell out; he gets serious about what he believes in. I would have been shoving that 20 mill in my pockets, ha.

He was also all involved with Yukon River salmon run problems and was going from village to village setting up local watch groups to report on what they were experiencing. Also tied up with international enviro groups. So anyway, I get this call from friends up river in Dawson; they told Gary I lived downriver nx village and he said he knew me. Gary and several Euro friends ended up staying over at our place. I took them out Indian Village, introduced them to everybody. Big birthday party, only people there not drinking; Gary & I. So like 2 in morning, drinking coffee at house, I was telling the story to the Euros about Gary turning down the 20 mill and how it somewhat impressed me. Gary said that he had stopped the younger village members from voting to sell tribal land and that was more important to him than that 20 mill, ha. Like I said, I don't agree with him, but respect him.

Ya know, I never felt any racism down there, but like all those people too; so I don't argue with them about their at times enviro craziness, usually nothing comes out of it.

They have been to the world court in the past over various issues, gets legislators attention if nothing else, ha ha.

Hope ya got a little harr out of the story.

16 posted on 02/26/2011 10:38:50 PM PST by Eska
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To: ASOC
Oh Chickaloon....

For a moment I thought this was going to be about Chilkoot Charlie's kick-off to Fur Rondy.

(thread hijack is now over, we return to our regularly scheduled programing)

17 posted on 02/27/2011 5:15:13 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: ASOC

***Chickaloon Village’s submission asserts that the new open-pit coal strip mine in its traditional territory property....would contaminate local drinking water sources as well as rivers, streams and groundwater ..... religious and cultural practices.***

The Navajos , another Athabascan Indian group in Arizona, claimed the same thing many years ago (Really, I believe it was greenies from the 1960s trying to stop the mine that claiming that).

The mine at Coal Canyon still went into production and many Navajos hired on and had a great life working at the mine which fed slurry coal to California coal fired plants.

Then not long ago the greenies managed to get the California power plants to cease operation and the Az mine closed, throwing those same Navajos out of work, and boy did the Indians scream about being out of work!


18 posted on 02/27/2011 8:00:50 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Visit the TOMMY FRANKS MILITARY MUSEUM in HOBART, OK. I did, well worth it!)
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To: Eska

Same place, different perspectives. Interesting how the world works. I worked in Sutton for a while, too, about 15 years ago. You’re right in that all of us are capable of redemption, and there is good in most of us. Maybe the closeness of Anchorage and the Mat-Su gave the folks I ran into a little edginess.

Out here along the middle Yukon I’ve felt a much better ambiance in the community. Not perfect, but no place is. My best recommendation is that we’re raising our son here.

Anyway, you be well, buddy. It’s -26 degrees this morning, but the sun’s coming up right now. So things are good.


19 posted on 02/27/2011 9:23:19 AM PST by redpoll
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To: mmercier

Like “Massachusetts,” “Chikaloon” is an Indian word. I’m sure the Athabaskans of the area around Chikaloon would be very happy to explain it to you.


20 posted on 02/27/2011 12:53:51 PM PST by redhead ("I think I'm the best fish filleter in the whole third grade." --Piper Palin)
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To: ASOC

Looks like it might be time to go to Alaska for a ousing game of “Cowboys and Chickaloonies”. SCOUTS OUT !!


21 posted on 02/27/2011 1:05:43 PM PST by WePledge (Semper Fidelis)
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To: WePledge
Oops..ousing = rousing
No more skipping spell check for you young man!!
22 posted on 02/27/2011 1:09:36 PM PST by WePledge (Semper Fidelis)
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To: ASOC
I am saying they have plentiful avenues for pushing their complaint other than the UN

That's what I was thinking too when I saw the headline. What, the EPA isn't anti-American enough for these guys?

23 posted on 02/27/2011 3:34:53 PM PST by GATOR NAVY ("The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen." -Dennis Prager)
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To: WePledge
ABSOLUTLY NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT is never, ever the least bit funny/witty/whatever to print something like that.

Dude, in case you missed the memo, these are Americans - they just happen to live in a little shit-hole village on the edge of a more populated area. They don't like the idea of a coal mine in their AO - and I'm fly with that.

That they went to he UN - instead of following a route within the US legal system has made some brand them as single dimension bigots - no argument from me.

But to even suggest that shooting these folks, burning down the village or any other sociopathic behavior (I assume you meant to be humorous) is totally unacceptable. Shameful really.

24 posted on 02/28/2011 7:46:57 AM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

And, oddly, it seems Uncle Sugar ripped off a ton of the coal money to boot.

The Califlowers will soon run out of electricity - and watch everybody else not cry over their misery.


25 posted on 02/28/2011 7:49:28 AM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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