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U.S., Kuwait celebrate 20th anniversary of victory in Iraq
Stars and Stripes ^ | February 26, 2011 | By KEVIN BARON

Posted on 02/26/2011 10:23:16 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

Operation Desert Storm lasted just over six weeks from first strike to cease-fire. But 20 years later, the decision to send more than 600,000 American troops to free a small, oil-rich, Muslim country that few Americans knew about has had a lasting legacy.

For Kuwait, it simply means liberation.

On Saturday, tens of thousands of people, from children to heads of state, lined a stretch of highway outside of Kuwait City for a two-hour military parade of nations from the coalition forces that in 1991 repelled Saddam Hussein’s invading army.

Tanks, troops, armored vehicles, helicopters and barrel-rolling fighters jets streaming red, green and white smoke – the national colors – passed in formation before Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen and other dignitaries including Colin Powell, chairman of the Joint Chiefs in 1991, and Spain’s King Juan Carlos.

It was a spectacle rarely seen in the world today. Saudi, Kuwaiti, French British, and other troops joined the relatively small contingent of roughly 175 Americans thundering down the road and above the grandstands.

“It is a terrific occasion,” Mullen said in a statement released by his spokesman, heralding the coalition’s “victory” over Iraq in Operation Desert Storm and thanking Kuwait for supporting the current massive U.S. logistical withdrawal.

On Kuwaiti television Friday evening, Mullen said, “To have watched Kuwait evolve over the many years has been incredibly positive in terms of the movement towards more representative democracy … in a way that recognizes the changes that are required.”

Victory is a word few American military or political leaders utter in Washington today. Just over the border, fewer than 50,000 U.S. servicemembers remain deployed to what is now known as the Iraq War. They are last remnants of a second –

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bush; iraq; kuwait; ods; osw; saudiarabia

1 posted on 02/26/2011 10:23:26 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: All

Many thanks to those who were there.


2 posted on 02/26/2011 10:25:26 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
Many thanks to those who were there.

Amen to that!

There were many and our son was one of them, it doesn't seem like it was 20 years ago.

3 posted on 02/26/2011 10:33:04 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Jet Jaguar

What always galled me is that America had Iraq on the run back to Baghdad, tattered and defeated, but stopped short of going on into Baghdad for an easy kill.
So much was lost by letting Hussein recover and regroup.


4 posted on 02/26/2011 10:40:12 PM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW
From Bush Sr.

"Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under the circumstances, there was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different -- and perhaps barren -- outcome."

5 posted on 02/26/2011 10:43:23 PM PST by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Jet Jaguar

6 posted on 02/26/2011 10:58:15 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Palter

“”Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in “mission creep,” and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs.”
_____________________________________

Yes, I understand what the mandate was, but look at what
the “incalculable human and political costs” HAVE been incurred by not finishing the job on the first try.


7 posted on 02/26/2011 11:09:55 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I seriously doubt that Sadam was hanged ‘til dead’...They even put a collar around his neck which would prevent any rope burns...


8 posted on 02/26/2011 11:54:46 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Jet Jaguar; Kathy in Alaska

Congrats to Kuwait.. I met once the Kuwait Family on the Corner of RTE 80 in Jahra who were the Initial encounter and 1st to meet Iraqi’s initially Polite Invasion. They came to Front Door Knocked and asked if there was anything they could do to help and when they Came back in 24 they wanted to Occupuy there large house. The One gentlemen Told me that in the Iraqi group were Palestinian friends dressed in Iragi Uniform. he knew these kids since he was 5 Years old. The Family left everything that night by 2 SUV’s across the Desert avoiding Main Rds as they were Barricaded with checkpoints and headed to Saudi Arabia where they stayed until Liberated..

Upon return..they noticed their Palestinion friends were abandoned in Jahra by Iraqis Army who fled back to Basra . The Palestinians traitors were all shot by the returning Jahra Kuwaitis residents as traitors.

I had Expatriate Indian Friends who lived 30 years in Kuwait who were leaving the Catholic Cathedral that invasion day after celebrating Mass. They Immediately were accosted by Iraqi Troops at a Checkpoint in Kuwait City in an area Known as Safat and their Old Mercedes was Comandeerd as Transportation. They Skedaddled within two weeks back to India when Daily Life deteriorated under the Iraqi Occupying regime.

I had been stopped twice during my 2 year stint in Kuwait as a Contractor in Kuwait in 2006 -2008 in a Supermarket. Beautiful perfumed Ladies in Fancy Burkas approached me to Thank me for liberating their Country. I would quickly always remind them I was In Indonesia at the Time and never in the Military. They then would nervously giggle and hug me and begin to tell me of the Rapes and Killing by Iraqi Soldiers to the Females in their Families. Mom Sister Cousin...etc.. They then went off teary eyed. Left me in a real sense of Introspection!

Thank you to Both President Bush’s for your service to our Country and making me Proud to be an American.!

Thank you to all our Military and families for their sacrifice in Making this a special Country in History!


9 posted on 02/27/2011 3:31:14 AM PST by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: Jet Jaguar
and remember those who didn't come back....

A SALUTE to them!

10 posted on 02/27/2011 4:02:25 AM PST by GulfWar1Vet
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To: Jet Jaguar
Hard to believe it's 20 years ago.

Browse my Gulf War and News folder3554-1

11 posted on 02/27/2011 7:01:36 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: AlexW

Yeah, and he had 600,000 people to do it with. We did the current job in Iraq with well under 200,000. Thanks for nothing, Bush Sr.


12 posted on 02/27/2011 7:08:25 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: bert

Excuse me? I spent 15 months in Iraq helping to put down Iraq with a fraction of the people Bush Sr had in the first place. Even at the height of The Surge, there was less than 1/3 of the forces in Iraq than we had during Desert Storm. I’ve lost many friends over there and was nearly killed myself several times. If the job had been done right the first time as it should’ve been, then none of that would’ve been necessary. If that’s “sanctimony”, then I guess I’m guilty as charged.


14 posted on 02/27/2011 7:15:12 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Sorry for the slur.

But....you are guilty as charged

The enemy you faced was trivial compared to the forces arrayed in the Gulf War.

Your enemy was already dead and strewn along the road from Kuwait to Iraq when you crossed the border

Your effort was great and commendable but don’t denigrate the effort nor the commander in ‘91.

One wonders if you even have a clue as to the forces arrayed against out troops at the counterattack into Kuwait.


15 posted on 02/27/2011 8:06:35 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: bert

Yes, I have a clue, and we steamrolled them in 100 hours. Color me unimpressed. I’ve no doubt it was dangerous as hell (war generally is), but it was Major Leaguers against Pee-Wee. No contest.

I’m also aware of the instances of our Soldiers watching from a distance Saddam’s goons massacring men, women, and children in a bid to consolidate power after his defeat. Our Soldiers could do nothing or they’d probably still be in prison to this day. That’s a stain on our honor.

Bush had his reasons for making the call he did, but I vehemently disagree with them. This all could’ve been over 15-20 years ago. Instead it’s still going on.


16 posted on 02/27/2011 8:30:32 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: philly-d-kidder
Beautiful perfumed Ladies in Fancy Burkas approached me to Thank me for liberating their Country.

I was in Kuwait in December '96 assisting the Kuwaiti Air Force integrate its air command and control systems. With Christmas coming up my thoughts were with my family and how I wanted to be with them rather than Kuwait. An older Kuwaiti gentleman (60ish?) came up and asked if I was an American (I was in uniform but I don't think he could read English). I answer yes, and he shook my hand and gave me a hug/kiss and said; "For my family, for my country, for me. Thank you for freedom." The best Christmas present I have ever received... ever.

17 posted on 02/27/2011 10:46:26 AM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: philly-d-kidder
IN 1991, I sat in my vehicle and watched as a Kuwait military member put his 9mm to a Palestinians head for refusing to leave the check point. He pulled the trigger and the pistol misfired, it was no act, the pistol really misfired. I went around the check point I did not want to see what happened after the Kuwaiti cleared his pistol. Heard from the vehicle behind me that the Palestinian decide he should leave the check point. While in "Death Valley" a carload of Palestinians heading to Iraq stopped and started to harass us, a Kuwaiti soldier fired his M-16 and the car left. I spoke to the Kuwaiti he told me how the PLO sided with Hussein how he had had to move from house to house nightly because his Palestinian neighbors turned him in to the Iraqis. Imagine hiding out like that for 6 months knowing torture and death could be just around the corner.
18 posted on 02/27/2011 10:46:39 AM PST by OldGoatCPO (Social engineers build bad bridges.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
While you have valid complaints, you need to remember 1991 was different war, politically and militarily. I served through both wars, mistakes were made in both, but Bush Sr. did not have a mandate to overthrow the regime of another country. We were a legit alliance and our allies would never have supported an overthrow of Hussein. The French, and Russians where financially tied to Saddam. We hit them hard and they ran in the face of overwhelming force. In 1991 they ran all the way home and hide under their women's skirts. In 2003 they had learned it was easier to throw off the uniforms and become terrorists. Different wars, different equipment and a different enemy.

We all did a great job in 1990/1991 and proved the US Military was still a powerful force. There were many people in this country and overseas who did not think we were. After Nam,Beirut and Iran, many thought we were weak and did not have any fight in us. So people like Hussein thought they could get away with aggression. We restored our reputation, than we elected a President who immediately began cutting military again and gave us Somalia. But, that's another story.

19 posted on 02/27/2011 11:17:30 AM PST by OldGoatCPO (Social engineers build bad bridges.)
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To: OldGoatCPO

It makes me wonder if Bush could have had that mandate if he had pushed for it since it was obvious to the world that Saddam was a maniac with an itchy trigger finger.

Maybe most of my complaints are merely a case of hindsight being 20/20, but it still irks me that we took the easier COA in this instance.


20 posted on 02/27/2011 11:39:11 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater

You can thank RINO Colin Powell for talking Bush 1 into stopping before taking Saddam out.


21 posted on 02/27/2011 11:43:27 AM PST by airborne (Powerful public unions and fiscal calamity. (Notice how those go hand in hand?))
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To: Future Snake Eater
I personally went into Iraqi bunkers and saw ammo boxes from Russia and Jordan. These boxes had been shipped during Desert Shield, so they lacked Iraqi military markings and still had the country of origin markings. I was inside a Iraq T-55 Russian made tank and they flew French Mirage F-1 and Russian Mig-25. The Europeans were doing allot of business with Saddam before and after the war. If I remember correctly the French and Russian's made big money reconstructing he Iraq infrastructure and Comm systems after 91.
22 posted on 02/27/2011 2:27:30 PM PST by OldGoatCPO (Social engineers build bad bridges.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
I personally went into Iraqi bunkers and saw ammo boxes from Russia and Jordan. These boxes had been shipped during Desert Shield, so they lacked Iraqi military markings and still had the country of origin markings. I was inside a Iraq T-55 Russian made tank and they flew French Mirage F-1 and Russian Mig-25. The Europeans were doing allot of business with Saddam before and after the war. If I remember correctly the French and Russian's made big money reconstructing he Iraq infrastructure and Comm systems after 91.
23 posted on 02/27/2011 2:27:50 PM PST by OldGoatCPO (Social engineers build bad bridges.)
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To: airborne
Good call Airborne, if it had not been for Strom’n Norman we would still be sitting there playing Desert Shield. Powell vacillated on attacking while Storm’n Norman tried to hold the dogs of war on a leash. God, was it good when he let go of the leash.
24 posted on 02/27/2011 2:32:48 PM PST by OldGoatCPO (Social engineers build bad bridges.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I recall saying at the time that the decision to stop was a military blunder. The principal strategic objective, however, was to drive Saddam back out of Kuwait, and that objective was attained. The decision to cease prosecution of the offensive was not a military decision, it was a political decision. That is one of the prices we pay for the otherwise sound and indispensable policy of civilian control of the military: that sort of decision sometimes takes things into account that work against it in the long run. I think that the decision by Congress not to fund the South Vietnamese self-defense efforts after '75 was a similar phenomenon.

The Second Gulf War was not inevitable at the outset but it was made so by certain European financial interests and an international campaign against embargoes that allowed Saddam to rearm under the auspices of the Oil For Food program. These were fueled by doctrinaire anti-Americanism in the international media and on the Left that were happy to turn a blind eye toward Saddam's butchery if it meant the ability to shout against the United States. A number of these volunteered to act as human shields for important Iraqi installations and were shocked to find how cynically they were received. These same activists altered their tune shortly thereafter into one that still resounds among those with more ideology than historical memory: that George W. Bush "started" the war some 10 years after Desert Storm. People told practically anything incessantly will come to believe, or at least to repeat it.

I was no longer in uniform at the time but I was acting as a civilian contractor for the Navy. What I saw was a large, unwieldy international coalition that constituted the last gasp of international collective security, largely because the actors each brought his own agenda to the table with him. There were Syrian units on our side, for example, ostensibly out of fear that Saddam would turn his forces their way; in actuality pursuing their own interests with results we would encounter in country during the second Gulf War. Bush senior was and remains an internationalist at heart, and I believe, as his own testimony indicates, that the decision to halt the advance was made under internationalist precepts of order and collective security. I also believe that the current ruling class, both Republican and Democrat, consists nearly exclusively of internationalists who learned nothing but how to spin their own errors and deflect blame, and contributed materially to the hardship we later found in occupation.

It hardly seems like twenty years, though. My grateful thanks to those who dodged bullets while I was sitting safely on a ship; my apologies to their successors who had to do it all over again.

25 posted on 02/27/2011 3:00:33 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Palter

Why didn’t W listen to his father?


26 posted on 03/17/2011 8:42:21 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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