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Small Nuclear War Could Reverse Global Warming for Years
National Georgraphic ^ | Feb 22, 2011 | Charles Q. Choi

Posted on 02/27/2011 5:12:08 PM PST by Innovative

Regional war could spark "unprecedented climate change," experts predict.

Even a regional nuclear war could spark "unprecedented" global cooling and reduce rainfall for years, according to U.S. government computer models.

Widespread famine and disease would likely follow, experts speculate.

Earth is currently in a long-term warming trend. After a regional nuclear war, though, average global temperatures would drop by 2.25 degrees F (1.25 degrees C) for two to three years afterward, the models suggest.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gorebullwarming; ipcc; nuclear; nuclearwar
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Grat. So let's have a little nuclear war, to reverse global warming. (I am being sarcastic, of course!)

Of course all these models that predict global warming or global cooling, etc., are based on millions of assumptions, and most likely many of those assumptions are wrong.

1 posted on 02/27/2011 5:12:18 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative

There’s got to be more to “scientific opinion” than simply “the opinion of a scientist.”


2 posted on 02/27/2011 5:13:27 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Innovative

No nuclear limit: China

http://www.theage.com.au/world/no-nuclear-limit-china-20110227-1ba0l.html

HIGH-RANKING Chinese officials have declared that there can be no limit to the expansion of Beijing’s nuclear arsenal, amid growing regional fears that it will eventually equal that of the United States, with profound consequences for the strategic balance in Asia.

Records of secret defence consultations between the US and China reveal that US diplomats have repeatedly failed to persuade the rising superpower to be more transparent about its nuclear forces and that Chinese officials privately admit that a desire for military advantage underpins continuing secrecy.


3 posted on 02/27/2011 5:15:09 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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To: Innovative

so, if all counties didn’t have all those nuclear tests the past, we would be averaging 100 degress ? <*sarcasm off>


4 posted on 02/27/2011 5:16:39 PM PST by stylin19a ("Marine Sniper - You can run, but you'll just die tired!")
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To: Innovative

Here we go again with the Gorebull Warming BS. I knew they couldn’t give it a rest.


5 posted on 02/27/2011 5:16:46 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I think what applies to these models, is:

“You can start with erroneous assumptions, then use impeccable logic, to arrive at the grand fallacy”

or more simply GIGO (garbage in, garbage out)


6 posted on 02/27/2011 5:16:53 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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To: Innovative

Global warming advocates are now insane and should be put in institutions of stupidity.


7 posted on 02/27/2011 5:18:02 PM PST by kindred (Come Lord Jesus, rule and reign over all thine enemies.)
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To: stylin19a
degress = degrees

sheesh !

8 posted on 02/27/2011 5:18:11 PM PST by stylin19a ("Marine Sniper - You can run, but you'll just die tired!")
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To: Innovative

I have a new bumpersticker:

GIVE NUCLEAR WAR A CHANCE!


9 posted on 02/27/2011 5:18:35 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: Innovative

Cool I vote we hit Hollywood ...../ kidding


10 posted on 02/27/2011 5:19:41 PM PST by badpacifist (Conservative Nut Job? Yes I have nuts and a job.)
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To: Innovative
Cool, we can anihilate Islam, the

and stop

too, sweet deal.

11 posted on 02/27/2011 5:20:13 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Or

Save The Planet. Nuke it!


12 posted on 02/27/2011 5:20:33 PM PST by A message
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To: Innovative

I wouldn’t be surprised if a majority of libs believe global warming is a bigger threat than “nuclar” war.


13 posted on 02/27/2011 5:21:39 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Innovative

I remember a day many years ago I was happy to read anything from National Geographic. Now a days all they have is a agenda.


14 posted on 02/27/2011 5:22:17 PM PST by ColdOne (AZamericonnie took my tagline & won't give it back!":))
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To: Innovative

So this is why the leftists love those tyrannical governments so much! It all boils down to their religion of globull warming!


15 posted on 02/27/2011 5:22:38 PM PST by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: 353FMG

Actually, this is a revival of the “Nuclear Winter” scare which predated the Global Warming scare which predated the Climate Change scare which predated the Global Climate Catastrophe scare. Looks like they are going back to Step 1 now.


16 posted on 02/27/2011 5:22:49 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Innovative

more computer models, no doubt!!

computer modeling has provided a mountain of misleading or false informaion.

garbage in, garbage out


17 posted on 02/27/2011 5:23:00 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Innovative
Okey Dokey!!


18 posted on 02/27/2011 5:23:30 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Innovative
Ah yes, "Nuclear winter," a favorite disaster scenario of the late unlamented idiot Carl Sagan and hordes of hippie dippie assholes back in the '80's.

Some ideas are just too bad to die.

19 posted on 02/27/2011 5:24:00 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ColdOne
Isn't this a follow up to the TTAPS study in the 1970s, showing the soot and dust from a nuclear war would increase atmospheric albedo and decrease insolation?
20 posted on 02/27/2011 5:24:11 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Innovative

The left is hoping for it, to cover their tracks on the global warming big money scam.


21 posted on 02/27/2011 5:25:30 PM PST by airborne (Powerful public unions and fiscal calamity. (Notice how those go hand in hand?))
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To: Innovative
Chinese officials privately admit that a desire for military advantage underpins continuing secrecy

Well, if we're going to have just a "small nuclear war" I have a good candidate for the designated target.

22 posted on 02/27/2011 5:26:28 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Innovative

Is somebody recommending this? The world has gone mad.


23 posted on 02/27/2011 5:26:28 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Innovative

I have a better idea... drop a nuke down Old Faithful and perhaps we can get Yellowstone to finally blow up. That should help.


24 posted on 02/27/2011 5:26:46 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Innovative

If they’d just leave well enough alone we would be better off. This year hasn’t felt like we need to worry about global warming!


25 posted on 02/27/2011 5:28:27 PM PST by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: Innovative

Given that global warming is farce and the earth has been cooling, launching a nuclear war to save the earth is ludicrous.


26 posted on 02/27/2011 5:28:56 PM PST by DakotaRed (Why not just pass a law requiring criminals to obey the laws?)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Experts - what would we do without them?

They state with certainty that a specific series of variable events will impact global temperatures for many years and they can do it to 1/100 of a degree!

Yet they can not accurately forecast if the next winter will be colder or warmer than the norm or it there will be more or less snowfall than the average.

They can’t even run their climate models on past years and get predictions that match the actual climate history.

These are the same groups of mainstream experts who, in the 1970’s, warned us of a coming ice age and predicted that by now we would have abandoned our northern cities to be crushed under the oncoming glaciers.


27 posted on 02/27/2011 5:31:12 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: ColdOne

Back when we were first married (43 years ago), one of my aunts gave us a subscription to National Geographic. We thoroughly enjoyed it when it stayed with geography. When it drifted over into religious science (Gaia Worship and Global Warming), we canceled it.

What does “long-term warming trend” mean: as opposed to the second ice age?


28 posted on 02/27/2011 5:31:43 PM PST by RhoTheta
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To: Innovative
Why stop at a “regional” war
lets go for the whole enchilada

Should be good for a century or so

Plus or minus a few unnecessary species /sarc

29 posted on 02/27/2011 5:32:01 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Innovative

Since GW doesn’t exist in the first place, anything could claim to reverse it.

The more these loons are proven to be wackos and liars, the greater the level of insanity we see. One has to wonder what next week will bring.


30 posted on 02/27/2011 5:32:21 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Innovative

So, what are we waiting for? To quote Michael Corleone, “Today I settled all of the family’s business.” And fixing global warming in the balance... Hoo-ah! Who would have guessed that Armageddon could be green?


31 posted on 02/27/2011 5:34:13 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (tt)
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To: Innovative

Given this information, our required course is obvious. We must allow plenty of global warming in case some fool starts a nuclear war.


32 posted on 02/27/2011 5:39:11 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Throw away your papers, blow up your TV...and set yourself free.)
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To: kindred

The white house or mtv studios? ;)


33 posted on 02/27/2011 5:40:55 PM PST by Trillian
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To: Innovative

Yes, let’s have a nuclear war. We can say that “it’s for the
children.” What a heartwarming thought.


34 posted on 02/27/2011 5:41:53 PM PST by paint_your_wagon
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To: Innovative

A small nuclear war would work well with this ice age.


35 posted on 02/27/2011 5:44:04 PM PST by pallis
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To: Innovative

Baloney. They detonated dozens of nuclear devices in the Pacific and in Nevada in the 50’s & 60’s. The climate absorbed all of that and stayed stable.


36 posted on 02/27/2011 5:44:21 PM PST by lurk
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To: Innovative
OH NO!....

..now what?

37 posted on 02/27/2011 5:44:59 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: Innovative

Al Gore’s group is no doubt pushing this idea.


38 posted on 02/27/2011 5:52:00 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Innovative

“Not even wrong”


39 posted on 02/27/2011 5:57:51 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Innovative

National Geographic is a wing of the WH. Are they floating this idea? They will try anything to get carbon ex. dollars which will totally imprison us.


40 posted on 02/27/2011 5:59:41 PM PST by bronxville
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To: Innovative
these people are Crazy!

there IS NO GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!!!!

it is a HOAX!!!!!

41 posted on 02/27/2011 6:00:29 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Carter 2.0 The Epic Fail Edition)
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LOL!

...according to U.S. government computer models.

In other words, according to models whose values for variables are preset according in order to give precisely the outcome desired.

You can get a climate model to dance a polka if you preset the right "assumptions" for variable values.

.

42 posted on 02/27/2011 6:02:15 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Innovative

These progressive nut jobs are never happy until millions suffer and/or die.


43 posted on 02/27/2011 6:02:36 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Innovative

so.......this is a recommendation?

What ridiculousness


44 posted on 02/27/2011 6:02:48 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Innovative

This is probably the most foolish thing I’ve ever heard, basically, “Experts” are fools today, blinded by thier false “green” religion, even my 13 year old burst out laughing when I showed him the headline, anyone with any common sense knows this is utter nonsense.


45 posted on 02/27/2011 6:05:59 PM PST by Scythian
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46 posted on 02/27/2011 6:07:00 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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Like 1000 burning oil wells in Kuwait did? Thats what Carl Sagan predicted,,,, lol


47 posted on 02/27/2011 6:26:18 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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Regional war could spark "unprecedented climate change," experts predict.

National Geographic?

Listen Choi, unless you're in a position to tell me who these "experts" are, DON'T BOTHER ME!
Oh, you might let us know when National Geographic abandons questionable advocacy and returns to geography.

48 posted on 02/27/2011 6:26:41 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: Scythian

Well, I dunno...We have got to find a way to protect our Precious Bodily Fluids...


49 posted on 02/27/2011 6:27:28 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: badpacifist
Reminds me of a paperback I read once...The Day We H-Bombed Los Angeles.
50 posted on 02/27/2011 6:28:06 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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