Skip to comments.New Life Church hero says she was asked to leave because she's gay
Posted on 02/28/2011 9:26:48 AM PST by ironwill
COLORADO SPRINGS - The security guard who saved lives by shooting a gunman at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs has apparently been asked to leave.
In December 2007, Jeanne Assam - working as a volunteer security guard - shot Matthew Murray after he killed two people outside the church. He killed two others the night before at a training center for Christian missionaries in Arvada.
Assam was honored for her quick action. Murray likely wouldve killed more people at the church if she had not shot him repeatedly then pinned him down.
Assam says last year when she told church leaders she is gay, she was asked to leave the church.
New Life pastor Brady Boyd told the Colorado Springs Gazette the report is untrue. "We would never tell someone to leave because of their sexual orientation," Boyd says. "Jeanne will always be a hero at New Life."
Assam gave a speech on Saturday, February 19 at the Pride Centers annual masquerade ball, a fundraiser for the gay community in Colorado Springs.
The Gazette reports she spoke of the pressures society places on gay people.
New Life Church was in the national spotlight in 2006 when Pastor Ted Haggard left after admitting he had had a relationship with a male escort in Denver.
She is a liar.
I hope you’re joking.
How do you know this?
They would have never asked her to leave for the reason she is stating.
Either this church is very confused and is not consistent, or there is something wrong with her story.
This her version of the story. If the church confronted her on the issue of homosexuality and she declined to listen and ignored it, then the church probably let her know that this was not acceptable (as they should have).
Too many times, church’s allow sinful behavior to go on without confronting it. If she came to the church saying, “I know this is wrong, but I’m struggling with it”, I’m sure the church would have welcomed her with open arms. Seeing that she is speaking at Gay right’s rallies, she doesn’t seem to feel that it’s a problem.
I can understand a church removing her from membership if she was unrepentant about her sin—if she defiantly insisted upon still having homosexual sex, for example. It doesn’t sound like she’s struggling with it and trying to repent, though, if she’s giving speeches at “pride centers.” And further, the pastor denied it, so now it’s she said/he said and we don’t really know the truth.
Relly? The Apostle Paul kicked a member out of the Church at Corinth because he was openly engaging in sexual sin. See Chapter 5 of 1 Corinthians. It was essentially the same situation as here.
So you don't actually know that she's lying, then, but you accuse her anyway.
I think there's a Commandment about that....
I have no problem with a gay person attending a Church, as you correctly comment, they need salvation as much as any of us. But the Church is obligated to not endorse a life of sin, so she should not be employed by the Church.
But I would say the same of a drunkard (habitually drunk) or someone living with their girlfriend/boyfriend.
You can attend, but you can’t be a member, hold a position, or be employed.
Some of us consider abuse of apostrophes to be a sin.
Because she was kicked off the police force in Minneapolis for filing false reports in back the 90s...
I don’t know the whole stories of either. But if Haggard was repentent and seeking help, then the church SHOULD allow him to be in their church (he should be stripped of all leadership roles though).
If this lady is not repentent and feels that she is doing no wrong, she needs to be confronted.
Even Jesus said a person must be shunned from the Church if they refust to repent from open sin. Matthew 18:15-17
Why would the church say that they would never dismiss a person for their sexual orientation?
In 1 Cor. 5, Paul tells the Corinthian church to dismiss a man who was dating his mom. Any and all non-heterosexual-married sex requires church discipline.
Sounds like New Life Church needs to change their name to Unchanged Life Church.
Does the pastor sin?.. If so, which ones?..
Are some sins better than others?..
Munching carpet is a sin I suppose.. so is cheating on your tithes..
Wonder how much that goes on!.....
THEN.. you got yer "packers", theres a nasty story.. for a future time..
But I fail to see why a Church would basically say "We don't allow sinners to enter our building."
Seems like the building would be pretty darn empty.
I know nothing about what really happened, but I find this woman's version of the story to be ... ummmm ... surprising.
It’s one thing to be attracted to the same sex. It’s another to act on it.
If a stright member, was sleeping with any willing member of the church - openly and flagarantly - they would likely be asked to leave too. Most churches do not endorse the promiscious lifestyle.
She opted to flagarantly display her orientation; now is demanding that the church change it’s stance, for her - because she is ‘special’.
So she’s obviously lying now....? Careful, son...
BTW, I go to New Life Church..., Brady Boyd is a man of integrity.
The Bible teaches us to repent from our sins and turn away from our old selves and strive to live in rightesouness. If this woman continues to live the lifestyle that is called an abomination (Leviticus 18:22), then after following the instructions in Timothy for addressing such a one, the church would be right and proper to disassociate from this woman until such time as she leaves that lifestyle and returns to Christ.
I say again that I find this woman's story ... surprising.
He said he threw the meth away and only got a massage. In other words, he did not repent.
And yet the call was out to forgive and forget?
So she’s being an advocate at a homosexual fundraiser, and is apparently unrepentive. Shame on her.
Ok...let me restate.
If she was not repentant, then they were right to ask her to leave. If she was repentant and dealing with the issue, then they shouldn’t have asked her to leave but help her through the issue.
Sorry if I wasn’t more clear, I’m at work and have to sneak in posts quickly.
Leviticus 18:22 is specific to male homosexual relations.
Women having sex with women is condemned elsewhere.
Really? Show me anywhere in the NT where a Christian has a obligation to tithe?
It sounds an awful lot like she wants to be a militant gay and still maintain a place of honor in the church. The two positions are incompatible.
Homosexual tendencies are one thing. Militant homosexuality is another.
“So Haggard can smoke meth and get a massage from a male prostitute and all should be forgiven and forgotten, but this woman has to leave the congregation?”
I thought Haggard was fired.
I did not know this. In that case, yes, kick him out of the church until he repents.
An unrepentant sinner should not be allowed to contaminate the congregation. The Bible clearly teaches the homosexuality is a sin, and a person who is not trying to leave the old sinful life behind should not be allowed period. The Bible also clearly teaches that as well.
That’s not orientation, it’s conduct. Orientation is what people struggle with, conduct is what they do.
What if her sexual orientation was toward children or siblings. Would you consider that wrong?
I think that a lot of people have missed that tithing was to support the tribe of Levi who were the priests and had no land. That doesn’t hold true for the Christian church.
It would seem very likely that this woman is both a hero(ine), and a tool of the LGBT movement, striking out at organized religion (especially Christian religion).
They might have promised her financial support if she would ‘get fired’ somehow and blame it on her sexual preference.
Just because she ‘was’ a hero, doesn’t mean she couldn’t bend over for a bunch of money, and some fame.
Of course, it could just be the ‘church’ (board members) deciding they didn’t want the association, because she had gone ‘public’ with her ‘sexual preference issues’.
Probably all of the above.
He had a team “counsel” him and deem him ‘heterosexual’.
He is currently starting a NEW church!
Doesn’t she have a book coming out?
I have gay family and friends and this has been a hot topic recently.
As a Christian, I believe I have a responsibility to show them love and kindness as I would any other family or friend. That said, should the topic of homosexuality come up, I also have a responsibility to be steadfast in my faith. The Bible is very clear that homosexuality is a sin.
I embrace the individual not the lifestyle.
After all that, I’ve still had extended family call me a “hatemonger” and tell me that the Bible was written by a bunch of old drunk men.
Reminds me of the theme of the LETTERS TO THE CHURCHES in the Bible. 2000 years later, we haven't improved much.
see Post 27. Of course it's wrong. I never said homosexuality wasn't.
“New Life Church hero”.....
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Let us see now.
She was an armed security guard.
She was working (volunteering) at the Church.
A gunman comes to the church, kills a couple of people and she in turn kills the gunman.
I know I am ‘nit picking’, ‘beating a dead horse’ etc but where does this make her a hero?
She was doing her ‘job’.
You (or at least I) do not place someone in hero status when they are simply doing their job.
A cop in a shoot out with couple of bad guys is doing his job.
A cop in a shoot out who zig zags his way, through gunfire, and positions himself where he can take out the ‘bad guy’ is acting heroically.
A HERO is the guy that, when already safe, runs back into the foray to rescue someone else or take out the ‘bad guy’ He is a ‘hero’.
Just another word that has been butchered and handed out like graffiti just to more or less give someone their ‘15 min of fame’.
A soldier, standing with a group of people who spots a grenade and jumps on it is a ‘hero’ - his action will most likely contribute to his early demise - and save the lives of those in the immediate vicinity.
Even if it didn’t go off, the intent was there and he did place himself in an awkward, to say the least, position.
The ONLY EXCEPTION to this rule is if he placed the grenade there himself.
How do you know this?
FTFA: New Life pastor Brady Boyd told the Colorado Springs Gazette the report is untrue. "We would never tell someone to leave because of their sexual orientation," Boyd says. "Jeanne will always be a hero at New Life."
According to r9etb, "she was kicked off the police force in Minneapolis for filing false reports in back the 90s," so she has a history of lying.
Do you have any evidence that pastor Boyd has a history of lying?
“”Munching carpet is a sin I suppose.. so is cheating on your tithes..””
Very true. And if the cheaters began speaking at “Tithe Cheaters Pride” events I would expect the Church to openly disapprove. See the difference?
I don’t buy this. It is a “modern” sect of christianity.
I suspect she is just fishing for a payoff and the reporter is complicit for personal agenda reasons.
"But a man named Ananias with his wife Sapphira sold a piece of property, and with his wife's knowledge he kept back some of the proceeds, and brought only a part and laid it at the apostles' feet." "But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back part of the proceeds of the land? While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? How is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God."
While this is true, the method for handling unrepentant sexual sin is clearly laid out. Deliver such a one to stan for the destruction of the flesh so that the soul may be saved. Essentially, shun them until they repent (Which is covered in 2 Cor 2:5-11).
New Life church (if they shunned her) was doing EXACTLY what the bible tells us to do.
Actually the word church has been morphed into what it is not.. "Ekklesia"(church) means the called out ones(not congregation) like a Synagogue.. .. called out of the sheep pens.... John ch 10...
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