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Majority in Poll Back Employees in Public Sector Unions [NYTimes/CBS]
New York Times ^ | 2/28/2010 | EL COOPER and MEGAN THEE-BRENAN

Posted on 03/01/2011 7:23:40 AM PST by Incorrigible

Majority in Poll Back Employees in Public Sector Unions

By MICHAEL COOPER and MEGAN THEE-BRENAN

As labor battles erupt in state capitals around the nation, a majority of Americans say they oppose efforts to weaken the collective bargaining rights of public employee unions and are also against cutting the pay or benefits of public workers to reduce state budget deficits, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

...But the nationwide poll found that embattled public employee unions have the support of most Americans — and most independents — as they fight the efforts of newly elected Republican governors in Wisconsin and Ohio to weaken their bargaining powers, and the attempts of governors from both parties to cut their pay or benefits.

Governors in both parties have been making the case that public workers are either overpaid or have overly generous health and pension benefits. But 61 percent of those polled — including just over half of Republicans — said they thought the salaries and benefits of most public employees were either “about right” or “too low” for the work they do.

Tax increases were not as unpopular among those surveyed as they are among many governors, who have vowed to avoid them. Asked how they would choose to reduce their state’s deficits, those polled preferred tax increases over benefit cuts for state workers by nearly two to one. Given a list of options to reduce the deficit, 40 percent said they would increase taxes, 22 percent chose decreasing the benefits of public employees, 20 percent said they would cut financing for roads and 3 percent said they would cut financing for education.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; nyslimes; obama; unions; wisconsinshowdown
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The latest talking point of the public unions and their talking heads.
1 posted on 03/01/2011 7:23:43 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible

PPP polls are untrustworthy. As for this specific one, see Legal Insurretion blog for a breakdown on how crooked it is.


2 posted on 03/01/2011 7:26:06 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: Incorrigible
A democrat poll with a deceptive question as the dems do using the lamestream media. They fix the results of polls much as they fix the unemployment numbers they caused by collective bargaining.
3 posted on 03/01/2011 7:26:16 AM PST by kindred (Come Lord Jesus, rule and reign over all thine enemies.)
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To: Incorrigible

Massive oversampling of Democrats and union members in this poll. Details:

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/01/a-peek-under-the-hood-of-the-nytcbs-poll/


4 posted on 03/01/2011 7:26:20 AM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Incorrigible

I don’t, for a second, believe this Union propaganda. No one I talk to backs these Mafia thugs and goons.


5 posted on 03/01/2011 7:27:22 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Incorrigible; All
"Majority in Poll Back Employees in Public Sector Unions"


6 posted on 03/01/2011 7:27:43 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Incorrigible

Don’t worry, the corrections will come next week. This is out of the template. They just fit in their cause and the poll works for them.


7 posted on 03/01/2011 7:27:52 AM PST by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter.)
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To: Incorrigible

It looks like the this weeks Talking Points have been released: “GET US SOME GOOD POLLING TO HELP US OUT IN WISCONSIN. DO WHATEVER IT TAKES.”


8 posted on 03/01/2011 7:28:17 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Incorrigible

New York Times/CBS...That says it all


9 posted on 03/01/2011 7:28:21 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Incorrigible

“The nationwide telephone poll was conducted Feb. 24-27 with 984 adults and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points for all adults. Of those surveyed, 20 percent said there was a union member in their household, and 25 percent said there was a public employee in their household.”

Gee, ya thinkin’ what I’m thinkin’? BS ALERT!


10 posted on 03/01/2011 7:28:40 AM PST by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Incorrigible
Does this mean that, if Walker doesn't cave, he'll be praised by the media as having "made hard choices," like when Lowell Weicker, then Governor of Connecticut, imposed an income tax that no one wanted, and was given a "Courage Award" by Caroline Kennedy?

If Walker doesn't cave, will he be called "statesmanlike," as are other elected leaders who govern "against the will of the people" ?

11 posted on 03/01/2011 7:28:40 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Incorrigible

Yes, virtually everyone loves paying higher taxes.

What a bullsh** poll.


12 posted on 03/01/2011 7:29:16 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: Incorrigible

I’m totally anti-union


13 posted on 03/01/2011 7:29:49 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Green Bay Packers - SuperBowl 45 champs)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Because everyone knows that the public is begging to be raked over the coals.

The level of stupidity the MSM assigns to the general public is astoundingly insulting.


14 posted on 03/01/2011 7:31:15 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: Incorrigible

A New York Slimes/See-BS poll?

REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why don;t they take a poll on wwhether or not Americans think Obama is the Second Coming of Christ. I KNOW what THAT poll would say!

How can ANYONE take these two propaganda machines seriously.


15 posted on 03/01/2011 7:32:09 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: Panzerlied

A public union employee in 25% of their households?? I imagine that is way above the national average.


16 posted on 03/01/2011 7:32:42 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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To: Incorrigible

Just wait until the people realize that all of their health care workers, including doctors and nurses are now “public employees”.


17 posted on 03/01/2011 7:34:06 AM PST by Eva
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To: Qbert
First, the partisan split in the sample gave a ten-point advantage to Democrats. Their sample for this poll had a D/R/I split of 36/26/31, an absurd sample for political polling. In December, Rasmussen’s general-population survey put Republicans ahead, 36.0% to 34.7% for Democrats. A recent poll by Gallup shows erosion in Democratic affiliation all through 2010. In 2008, Barack Obama won the popular vote by seven points nationwide, and the NYT/CBS poll assumes that the electorate has grown more Democratic in 2011.

I think they are farrrrr too generous. They should assume:

  1. Democrats make up 783% of the population.
  2. Republicans make up -653% of the population.
  3. Independents make up -30% of the population.

That way, they can show the TRUE makeup of America.

Y'see.

18 posted on 03/01/2011 7:34:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (Scott Walker: Please FIRE.... then APPOINT... then VOTE.)
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To: Incorrigible

Barbara Streisand!


19 posted on 03/01/2011 7:34:42 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

It takes a real leap of faith, even by Democrats, to believe in any poll financed by CBS and the New York Times. Even Pew receives more trust, and that is saying something.


20 posted on 03/01/2011 7:34:53 AM PST by Melchior
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