Skip to comments.Pedophilia a ‘sexual orientation’ experts tell Parliament(Canada)
Posted on 03/02/2011 5:02:39 AM PST by Westbrook
OTTAWA, Ontario, February 28, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) In a recent parliamentary session on a bill relating to sexual offenses against children, psychology experts claimed that pedophilia is a sexual orientation comparable to homosexuality or heterosexuality, a definition that was questioned by one Member of Parliament who was present.
Bill C-54, an Act to Amend the Criminal Code, seeks to increase or impose mandatory minimum penalties or punishment on sexual offenders of children for particular crimes.
Parliamentary discussion on February 14 centered on the mandatory minimum imprisonment and how offenders respond to treatment. Dr. Vernon Quinsey and Dr. Hubert Van Gijseghem, experts on the issue, were called to witness.
When we speak of therapy or when individuals get therapy and we feel as though everyone is pacified, the good news is often illusory, said Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal.
Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offence from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality, emphasized Van Gijseghem.
True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this persons sexual orientation. He added, however: He may however remain abstinent.
MP Serge Ménard later praised the witnesses. Mr. Van Gijseghem and Mr. Quinsey, said Ménard, corrected some of our impressions.
However, MP Marc Lemay of the Bloc Quebecois challenged Van Gijseghems definition. I have to admit that I was not expecting, on this Valentines Day, to be talking about this inappropriate type of love. It is not really love. It has more to do with violence and control. I am concerned, Professor Van Gijseghem because you say, if I am not mistaken, that pedophilia is a sexual orientation.
That is what I said, continued Van Gijseghem.
Lemay pursued the point, asking if it therefore should be compared to homosexuality.
Yes, or heterosexuality, responded Van Gijseghem. If, for instance, you were living in a society where heterosexuality is proscribed or prohibited and you were told that you had to get therapy to change your sexual orientation, you would probably say that that is slightly crazy. In other words, you would not accept that at all. I use this analogy to say that, yes indeed, pedophiles do not change their sexual orientation.
During his witness, Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queens University, said that pedophiles sexual interests prefer prepubescent children. There is no evidence, he said, that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else.
You can manage the risk that sex offenders present - even pedophiles, added Quinsey, Its not necessarily that they need to change their sexual orientation; they need to learn to control themselves, with our help. In my opinion, society and no one around this table will accept pedophilia, even if it is a sexual orientation, said Lemay, I recall a period, not too long ago, when homosexuality was treated as an illness. It is now accepted, society has accepted it I cannot imagine pedophilia being accepted in 2011. You are telling me that even if we were to impose a five-year minimum on people it would not solve the problem. Once they get out of jail, they reoffend. That is worrisome.
One columnist in the Toronto Sun, Brian Lilley, expressed shock at Van Gijseghems testimony: what really shocked me was the Universite de Montreal professor, Dr. Hubert Van Gijseghem, who showed up to tell MPs pedophilia was a sexual orientation just like heterosexuality or homosexuality. He argued that its time to take our country back by ignoring the experts.
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They’re not hard to find. All of NAMBLA’s membership should be investigated and a real crackdown on users, producers, sellers and distributors of child pornography.
The punishment for all of the above should be so severe that they will never re-offend.
Did you think that we would ever have homosexual “marriage”? Did you ever think that a president of this country would ever put someone like Kevin Jennings in charge of “safe schools”?
This is all part of the homosexual agenda, and it is designed to lead us slowly but surely, and unsuspecting, down a certain path. They are “going about it”.
Pedophiles and homosexuals are “made” by being molested themselves. There is some hope for homosexuals, there are organizations and therapist that can help those who want to change, as well as religious advisors.
For pedophiles? The only cure is lead or rope.
I have to disagree. If homosexuals can change so can pedophiles. They are both a mental illness.
I have friends in a prison ministry and pedophiles are told in prison counseling to accept who they are as they cannot change. They are urged to control it. They do not receive real treatment. They aren't told it's a sickness. So government employees are encouraging them to "accept themselves" and also to "admit they are homosexual".
You can’t compare homosexual marriage with pedophilia, what two adults do behind closed doors is nothing compared to innocent children being sexually abused.
The homosexual agenda can only push so far before they hit a solid wall, and that wall is young children. Do you really think any sane people, even most homosexuals (especially lesbians) will allow a young child to be the ultimate sex toy? As I said, this goes down to such a primal, protective instinct for such a huge majority it will never be legalized, in my estimation there would be a civil war before it got to that.
Not true, I know a pervert right now that grew up in the same town I did that was convicted of it. He was never abused in his life (and yes, I’m sure) but he was caught playing with a little boy while babysitting him for over a year. I know some people say no child is born gay or a pervert, but I disagree with that myself, I’ve seen it.
As far as your cure for them, we see things eye to eye there.
I knew the man boy “sexual oreintation” was coming next! This is the main object of the gay agenda as far as activists go. This is why they are piled into the schools promoting anal sex to other people’s children.
Well, some exceptions. But I think the general rule is true.
Regardless, anecdotal evidence is almost meaningless.
I think that you may be naive.
From the 1972 Gay Rights Platform:
Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.
Pedophilia and homosexuality are joined at the hip.
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Good points. I have just read over the years that pedophiles never are rehabilitated. But I know that God can work miracles in peoples’ lives.
And if pedophiles or homosexuals are told “you’re born that way and cannot change” it’s pure evil. Pure evil. It’s condemning them to hell.
Yes. It is. And it’s sad. More than one life is destroyed by lies.
Of course it is an “orientation” like homosexuality. In fact, they very often overlap.
But it’s not who we are attracted to that is the problem. We all have desires that someone may consider dark. No, it’s what we do with those feelings that counts morally.
That's it in a nutshell. That sounds like a very good technique. Thank you
Of course. Satan is out to kill, steal, and destroy and to take as many with him to hell as possible.
If he can convince them that there is no hope and they can never change, then they will not try and won't find out otherwise that they can.
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