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Pedophilia a ‘sexual orientation’ experts tell Parliament(Canada)
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | Mon Feb 28, 2011 16:14 EST | Rebecca Millette

Posted on 03/02/2011 5:02:39 AM PST by Westbrook

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Which of us is at all surprised at this "doctor's" testimony?

As insane as this "doctor" sounds (Imagine a society where heterosexuality is "proscribed". How long would THAT last? What a loon!), he is the leading edge of a juggernaut to normalize every manner of sexual perversion and depredation.

Once homosexuality had been "normalized", I believe that most of us in this forum knew that medical normalization of pedophilia was coming. We just didn't know whether it would come before normalization of polyamory, incest, bestiality, and necrophilia.

1 posted on 03/02/2011 5:02:42 AM PST by Westbrook
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To: Westbrook
Pedophilia a ‘sexual orientation’

Hitting someone on the head with a twenty lb. dumbbell is a workout option.

2 posted on 03/02/2011 5:05:09 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Obamacare: Not just dreck. Unconstitutional dreck.)
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To: Westbrook
It's all going according to plan. I expect NAMBLA to start advocating for their “rights” (and Pelosi to take up their cause) any day now.
3 posted on 03/02/2011 5:05:30 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: Westbrook
just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality

Heterosexuals do not "grapple".

4 posted on 03/02/2011 5:09:29 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: Westbrook
This is the cliff that the slippery slope of legitimizing sexual perversion comes to.

Mike

5 posted on 03/02/2011 5:09:48 AM PST by MichaelP ("Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: Westbrook

If it’s an “orientation” the “logic” of the times will eventually go beyond mere decriminalization and lead to positive legal sanction and even facilitation of the perversion.


6 posted on 03/02/2011 5:10:21 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Westbrook

In that case they can’t help it and should be segregated from children for life and/or sterilized.


7 posted on 03/02/2011 5:10:51 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Westbrook
Heterosexuality can never become merely an orientation; its unique procreative properties undeniably set it apart.

Therefore, in a way, I wonder if it wouldn't be GOOD if pedophilia were considered to be an orientation. Rather than elevating pedophilia, wouldn't it serve to diminish the status of "orientation" versus nature's obvious plan? Perhaps it's best if homosexuality is (ahem) on all fours with pedophilia,as orientations.

You just can't call heterosexuality an "orientation." It's observably more than that. Even if one doesn't procreate, the instincts that lead us to the opposite sex are obviously there to serve the propagation of the species.

8 posted on 03/02/2011 5:12:15 AM PST by Huck (Only 1,967 years until the Reign of Dr. Zaius!)
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To: Westbrook
I am concerned, Professor Van Gijseghem … because you say, if I am not mistaken, that pedophilia is a sexual orientation.

That is what I said,” continued Van Gijseghem.

Heaven help us.

9 posted on 03/02/2011 5:12:44 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: Graybeard58
Heterosexuals do not "grapple".

Homos grapple, heteros grope :-P

10 posted on 03/02/2011 5:13:39 AM PST by Huck (Only 1,967 years until the Reign of Dr. Zaius!)
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To: Westbrook

Homosexuality and Pedophilia and other perversions are loved by Liberals. To liberals bad is good.


11 posted on 03/02/2011 5:15:58 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: Huck
You just can't call heterosexuality an "orientation."

Calling normal behavior an "orientation" is part of the plan to normalize deviant behavior.

Just another choice to the deviants.

12 posted on 03/02/2011 5:16:19 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: Westbrook

Here we go. Only those crazy right-wing religious fanatics saw this coming, right? And Libertarians want to leave everyone to do whatever, right?

“Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.”


13 posted on 03/02/2011 5:16:34 AM PST by Obadiah (If you were going to shoot a mime, would you use a silencer?)
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Since homosexualists refuse to recreate and instead choose to recruit, legitimization will mean a legal and fresh source of meat for pedophiles to prey upon.
14 posted on 03/02/2011 5:17:27 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Obadiah

This was the goal all along.

Leftists infuriate me when you point out what their policies will lead to, then it happens, then they deny that their policies lead to it.

We need to get back to a time when we can segregate, at the state level if necessary, places where liberals can have their policies (and the destructive consequences), and leave the rest of us alone.


15 posted on 03/02/2011 5:20:16 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: liberalh8ter

Just had to know this was coming. The child molesters are testing the waters for a coming demand for “rights.”


16 posted on 03/02/2011 5:22:52 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: MichaelP
This is the cliff that the slippery slope of legitimizing sexual perversion comes to.

You are exactly right.

In the past I have personalized this argument with people. I try to use a named loved one of theirs. A daughter, granddaughter or someone close to them. I use the example of a pedophile wanting to have a sexual relationship them and then I ask the person what gives you the "moral authority" to say they can't have your relative?? Obviously our society has a "code" that finds it unacceptable - but the usual response is "because it's not right." If the person tries to list any reference to a bible they are trapped because bibles of old still have the listed sin of homosexuality which is "normal" to the brainwashed citizens.

When people refuse to have an established moral code they reap this "benefit" of "everyone does what is right in their own eyes." A pedophile, homosexual or bestiality - hey they are "sexual orientations" leave these poor people alone and let them "enjoy" their lives!

17 posted on 03/02/2011 5:25:23 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Graybeard58
Heterosexuals do not "grapple".

I dunno about that....I've grappled with a few................

18 posted on 03/02/2011 5:30:20 AM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: Westbrook
Obama's "Safe School Czar" would no doubt agree.

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Obama's "Safe School Czar" Kevin
"use a condom" Jennings
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From the Washington Times...

EDITORIAL: At the president's pleasure
'Safe school czar' encouraged child sex with an older man
September 28, 2009

A teacher was told by a 15-year-old high school sophomore that he was having homosexual sex with an "older man." At the very least, statutory rape occurred. Fox News reported that the teacher violated a state law requiring that he report the abuse. That former teacher, Kevin Jennings, is President Obama's "safe school czar". It's getting hard to keep track of all of this president's problematic appointments. Clearly, the process for vetting White House employees has broken down.

In this one case in which Mr. Jennings had a real chance to protect a young boy from a sexual predator, he not only failed to do what the law required but actually encouraged the relationship.

According to Mr. Jennings' own description in a new audiotape discovered by Fox News, the 15-year-old boy met the "older man" in a "bus station bathroom" and was taken to the older man's home that night. When some details about the case became public, Mr. Jennings threatened to sue another teacher who called his failure to report the statutory rape "unethical." Mr. Jennings' defenders asserted that there was no evidence that he was aware the student had sex with the older man.

However, the new audiotape contradicts this claim. In 2000, Mr. Jennings gave a talk to the Iowa chapter of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, an advocacy group that promotes homosexuality in schools. On the tape, Mr. Jennings recollected that he told the student to make sure "to use a condom" when he was with the older man. That he actively encouraged the relationship is reinforced by Mr. Jennings' own description in his 1994 book, "One Teacher in 10." In that account, the teacher boasts how he allayed the student's concerns about the relationship to such a degree that the 15-year-old "left my office with a smile on his face that I would see every time I saw him on the campus for the next two years, until he graduated."

Mr. Jennings' denials about these events reveal a lack of remorse. He has not admitted that he made mistakes in this case, and he now refuses to answer any questions about the scandal. Don't forget, this is a presidential appointee we're talking about. Mr. Obama should make clear what his standards are for public servants serving at the pleasure of the president. Encouraging and covering up man-boy sexual activity are serious offenses. The White House should force Mr. Jennings to come clean.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/28/at-the-presidents-pleasure/
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19 posted on 03/02/2011 5:31:16 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Graybeard58

I have to believe that it is an orientation, and also believe that it is not curable. I had a client whose husband was like this and he never was able to lick it. She, of course, was heart broken and left him; it even carried over to his own children. So sad. I think castration might be the solution.


20 posted on 03/02/2011 5:31:24 AM PST by DooDahhhh (hH)
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To: Westbrook
Once homosexuality had been "normalized", I believe that most of us in this forum knew that medical normalization of pedophilia was coming. We just didn't know whether it would come before normalization of polyamory, incest, bestiality, and necrophilia.

Most of us have been saying this for many years. It is a slippery slope of epic proportion. Sexual depravity of any kind cannot be 'normalized' without the next guy saying: "what about me? I'm not that big of a freak now.". Yet, all of the libtards said that argument was unfounded and just Conservative ignorance. Well..................

21 posted on 03/02/2011 5:32:04 AM PST by RobertClark (On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: DooDahhhh
I had a client whose husband was like this and he never was able to lick it.

No comment.

22 posted on 03/02/2011 5:34:53 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: screaminsunshine
Homosexuality and Pedophilia and other perversions are loved by Liberals. To liberals bad is good.

Which was the whole point of the Aldous Huxley book Brave New World, written in the 1930's. Bad is good. Good is bad. Normal is perversion. Perversion is normal. He saw it coming. We were warned.............

23 posted on 03/02/2011 5:34:53 AM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: ScottinVA
It's sickening. It wasn't that long ago when open homosexuality within our society was nonexistent, but in a relatively short period of time it went from being a mental disorder to a “bona fide” variation of the DNA strand (coughBScough). The path has been cleared for NAMBLA and the liberals are in place to testify to being “born that way”, demand their rights to “love as they see fit” and force it on the rest of us bitter clingers.
24 posted on 03/02/2011 5:38:44 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: missnry

You’re using an argument that I’ve developed recently in a more general manner.

Usually the people who try to say that homosexuality is morally OK use relativism as their justification - ie, you can’t impose YOUR value system on others (which is what they are doing with their relativistic value system - but that’s another argument).

They reject the idea of moral absolutes, especially those written down in the Christian Bible.

However, they don’t really think that way. They believe THEIR value system is superior to yours, but the only way that ANY value system could be better or worse than another is by comparing both to an external absolute standard.

So, they either have to admit that their value system cannot be “better”, or they have to accept the existence of an absolute. If the latter, that absolute has to be referenced and agreed upon by everyone. And where are we to find this? aha!


25 posted on 03/02/2011 5:43:11 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: DooDahhhh

I agree with you. Modern psychology cannot apparently grasp the concept of sin and temptation so clearly evident in man and described in the Bible. The Bible also offers a cure. We are all essentially evil, each of us dealing with temptation. Christians understand this, repent and gain spiritual support to resist it. What’s a secular person to do when they don’t even accept a moral code beyond what they themselves devise?


26 posted on 03/02/2011 5:46:07 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Coming soon! DADT...for Christians.)
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To: CitizenUSA
Modern psychology cannot apparently grasp the concept of sin and temptation so clearly evident in man and described in the Bible.

Grasp sin? They embrace it!

A prominent Beverly Hills psychiatrist who has helped decide hundreds of child-custody disputes was thrown off one recent case and has been challenged in at least two others after posting lewd photos of himself on Facebook and allegedly promoting illegal drug use, unprotected sex and male prostitution. Dr. Joseph Kenan, president of the American Society for Adolescent Psychiatry, is also being investigated by the Medical Board of California on at least four complaints by parents who hired him to do custody evaluations, according to records and correspondence reviewed by The Times. Among the postings on Facebook and other websites under the slightly different names of "Joe Kegan" and "Joe Keegan" were photos showing Kenan baring his buttocks to the camera in public and another of him posing with a friend holding a cake that explicitly depicted a sexual act, court records state. The litigation over Kenan's fitness sheds light on a highly influential, but lightly regulated, group of experts — the evaluators who advise family courts in contested custody cases.
27 posted on 03/02/2011 5:51:48 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: Westbrook

America may go back to fiscal conservatism but liberalism is still advancing. Liberals will label pedophilia an “orientation” rather than a perversion or, more clinically, a disorder. Once “normalized” it becomes a “lifestyle” and will be protected under the law. But the outcome will be the same. Society will fundamentally change in character — it will become pagan. If the Christian God is dead... everything is permitted. With the death of Christian values, the family and marriage will be redefined and what where once considered sins — adultery, prostitution, homosexuality, incest, pedophilia, bestiality, etc., because they weakened the family whose role is to protect children — will be seen as lifestyle choices. And it’s all under the rubric of leftist “liberation” that we have to be thankful for with this Brave New Pagan World. The left will have destroyed the Christian church, marriage and the family and there will be nothing left as a counter poise to the strict loyalty demanded from the state. Sieg Hiel!


28 posted on 03/02/2011 6:00:23 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: TSgt
We're living in the time of the Wrath of God in Romans 1:18-32.
32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
29 posted on 03/02/2011 6:03:26 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Westbrook

Read through the whole thing, and there’s good in it. He’s saying they can’t be cured, it is in their nature. With this testimony there’s a good case to never let them roam free in society.


30 posted on 03/02/2011 6:06:14 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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31 posted on 03/02/2011 6:07:29 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Don’t tell me you’re surprised...


32 posted on 03/02/2011 6:08:45 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Westbrook

So, to this pervert, is rape a sexual orientation? Why stop there, what about sex with animals?


33 posted on 03/02/2011 6:09:59 AM PST by rawhide
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To: MrB

I thought this would happen in the next few years not now. They haven’t won the homosexual battle yet and if people get a load of this, they’ll lose. There may even be a backlash.


34 posted on 03/02/2011 6:11:23 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: MrB

The relativism argument will be used to flush out all traditional values so that the vacuum can be filled with leftist values. It’s a technique used by the left, especially by leftist profs on students.

As well, the left is quite use to living with contradiction. Martin Heidegger said that life is essentially, at it’s deepest level, contradiction. This was taken for profundity rather than something to be avoided.


35 posted on 03/02/2011 6:11:56 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: DJ MacWoW

End times, I believe...

things will accelerate, not slow down.

The BIG confrontation is coming, and soon.


36 posted on 03/02/2011 6:12:22 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Westbrook

if Liberals in Canada manage to legalize pedophilia our whole continent is going down...


37 posted on 03/02/2011 6:14:17 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Indeed, I’ve found many that are “immune” to logic, and I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at that, either.

Logic (logos in John 1:1) is from the “mind of God”, and I shouldn’t be surprised that those who reject His Word will reject logic as well.


38 posted on 03/02/2011 6:14:29 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Westbrook

It was only a matter of time before they started claiming this. I assume it’s been building “under the radar” for a while.


39 posted on 03/02/2011 6:15:36 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: Red Badger

It is so true. They think ugly is beautiful.


40 posted on 03/02/2011 6:18:37 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: screaminsunshine

“They think ugly is beautiful.”

That’s #23 on the Communist plan to destroy Western Civ:

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm


41 posted on 03/02/2011 6:22:42 AM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
Martin Heidegger said that life is essentially, at it’s deepest level, contradiction.

I believe that Ayn Rand was wrong about some important things, but she understood some things very well. She had read her Aristotle. A=A. There are no contradictions. If you think you have found a contradiction, check your premises.

The post-modernists are bad philosophers. Very bad.

42 posted on 03/02/2011 6:24:07 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: DJ MacWoW

You may be right.


43 posted on 03/02/2011 6:24:14 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MrB

some times I wish it would hurry up


44 posted on 03/02/2011 6:24:19 AM PST by representativerepublic (...loose lips, sink ships)
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To: MrB
End times, I believe...

Me too.

45 posted on 03/02/2011 6:24:23 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Red Badger

No kidding? It seems like it to me.


46 posted on 03/02/2011 6:25:04 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: representativerepublic

Meanwhile, we have a job to do

Matthew 5:16
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.


47 posted on 03/02/2011 6:27:13 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: screaminsunshine

Go to the link. It has been around for decades..........


48 posted on 03/02/2011 6:28:18 AM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: Westbrook

Yes, well, being a SOCIOPATH is a “mental condition”, does that mean we ignore the body count?


49 posted on 03/02/2011 6:29:58 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: screaminsunshine

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”


50 posted on 03/02/2011 6:30:14 AM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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