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Pentagon hesitant on no-fly zone over Libya (Enforcement would mean strike against Libyan assets)
WaPo ^ | 3/2/2011 | Craig Whitlock

Posted on 03/02/2011 1:12:55 PM PST by mojito

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates on Tuesday played down the likelihood that the United States would enforce a no-fly zone over Libya, citing numerous political obstacles and questioning the wisdom of taking military action against an additional Muslim country.

Gates said the Pentagon was preparing "a lot of options and contingencies" for President Obama to consider in response to the fighting in Libya and general instability in the region. Although Gates did not rule out establishing a no-fly zone to prevent Libyan ruler Moammar Gaddafi from carrying out airstrikes against rebel forces, he said such measures would have indirect consequences that "need to be considered very carefully."

For starters, Gates noted that the U.N. Security Council had not authorized military intervention in Libya and that NATO was also divided on the subject. He also suggested that such a military campaign could drain U.S. forces away from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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On Capitol Hill, Gen. James N. Mattis, the head of U.S. Central Command, told a Senate panel that it would be necessary to preemptively attack Libyan air-defense batteries and installations to ensure that they could not shoot down U.S. or NATO planes.

"It would be a military operation," he said. "It wouldn't be just telling people not to fly airplanes."

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, echoed Mattis's warning about preemptive strikes on Libyan targets. "We'd have to work out way through it, do it in a safe manner and not put ourselves in jeopardy," he said in a joint appearance with Gates.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: libya; noflyzone; robertgates
No no-fly-zone.
1 posted on 03/02/2011 1:13:02 PM PST by mojito
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To: mojito

Both sides hate us now. Both sides will hate us after this is all over, no matter what we do.

Evacuate our people and let the Libyans slaughter each other.


2 posted on 03/02/2011 1:14:51 PM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: mojito

Anyone who wants any more troops used with Obama in charge is totally nuts.

well, McLame does. Jon Cary does.

That about says it all.


3 posted on 03/02/2011 1:18:03 PM PST by dforest
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To: Little Ray
The advantage of helping the anti government forces is the off chance that they won't hate us later and more importantly a chance to take out some Iranian Republican Guard in southern Libya that are smuggling weapons into Sub Saharan Africa. Anytime we can kill IRG forces we should be doing it.

Of course this president won't follow through, so we might as well do nothing.

4 posted on 03/02/2011 1:18:03 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: mojito

Think of Libya as the NY underworld in the 1930’s. On mobster is losing his grip, and some others have sprung up to see if they can grab a share of the game (in this case it is oil).

Do we really want to try and pick winners in this?


5 posted on 03/02/2011 1:18:38 PM PST by PGR88 (Quid Hoc Ad Aeternitatem?)
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To: mojito

...................”a lot of options and contingencies” for President Obama to consider ...........................

Gates, first you have to find him! He’s either on the golf course, shooting some hoops, handing out medals in the East Room, or hiding under his desk in the Oral Office.

What a weak no account wussie!


6 posted on 03/02/2011 1:20:14 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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To: mojito

What we need is a NO-LIE Zone in DC...................


7 posted on 03/02/2011 1:20:54 PM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: Little Ray
These people have been wasting each other for centuries. What's the difference NOW?

They all have chromosomes missing, and they are not fully evolved. Why else would they carry on NON-STOP with violence, brutality and ignorance?

8 posted on 03/02/2011 1:21:26 PM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: mojito

I’m sorry, but after Gate’s performance over the last couple of years, I don’t care to hear anything he has to say.

I’m not in favor of enforcing a no fly zone. Nothing Gates could offer up would help with that decision.

He has been Obama’s lap dog too often for me to take what he says seriously.


9 posted on 03/02/2011 1:21:42 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...)
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To: mojito

Once again Obambi’s incompetant boobs shoot from the hip and miss...


10 posted on 03/02/2011 1:27:17 PM PST by Mr. K (Job #1 is to DEFUND THE LEFT~!!!!)
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To: SMARTY

Precisely, and IF we are going to act it should be against a threat, a threat against us, a known threat... such as Iran.More people need to see Iranium....

All these side shows while Iran is marching ahead at light speed..... and I would bet these side shows are precisely that... intentional sideshows to detract and redirect attention from what they are up to.

ANY other military option is just a wasste of taxpayers dollars and America’s resources, which is consistent with the Obama model.


11 posted on 03/02/2011 1:32:35 PM PST by himno hero
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To: mojito
If you recall when Reagan bombed Libya back in the 80s, they did shoot down one of our F-111's. They had decent anti aircraft capabilities way back then. I don't know what they might have now, but I suspect taking it out will not be a trivial or bloodless exercises.

As much as I'd love to see Qaddafi get the Mussolini treatment, I'm just not sure it is worth any American blood to speed that event on.

12 posted on 03/02/2011 1:33:15 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: mojito
"Enforcement would mean strike against Libyan assets."


Start with Qa - Daffy's house.
13 posted on 03/02/2011 1:33:15 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Ditto

This is what Tomahawks were created for.


14 posted on 03/02/2011 1:34:47 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: mojito

We should stay away unless PAID very well for the effort!


15 posted on 03/02/2011 1:35:35 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: mojito
questioning the wisdom of taking military action against an additional Muslim country.

I say "no" to the no fly zone but the above admission shows how weak and hand-wringy we have become.

16 posted on 03/02/2011 1:36:52 PM PST by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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To: mojito
As long as Libyan oil is being sold on the open market we have NO interests there. None.

Zilch.

Just like Afghanistan.

17 posted on 03/02/2011 1:50:17 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
This is what Tomahawks were created for.

Yes. But one of the targets would be communication, command & control centers for their integrated air defense net. These communications hubs are likely in built up areas or even in bunkers beneath civilian office buildings.

If we have good reason to hit them, so be it.

18 posted on 03/02/2011 2:06:41 PM PST by Tallguy (Received a fine from the NFL for a helmet-to-helmet hit.)
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To: Tallguy

I’m sure we will see the “no blood for oil” protests any day now.


19 posted on 03/02/2011 2:21:27 PM PST by Lachisula
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To: USNBandit

In you want to kill Iranians it makes more sense to do it where we know they are Iranians and not a damn goat herder. They would be a lot of miles miles east.


20 posted on 03/02/2011 2:27:22 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Ditto

They made a deal with Russian last year to buy their latest system, don’t know how many have been delivered. But the first pilot in will find out. And better have his swim gear handy.


21 posted on 03/02/2011 2:32:52 PM PST by org.whodat
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“Hesitant” is not good in a commander. I’m against risking any lives in this, but hesitant and waffling only causes more loss of life. God help our military with Zero as CIC.


22 posted on 03/02/2011 3:28:39 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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