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West Cools on No-Fly Zone (U.S. Defense Chief Decries 'Loose Talk' of Libya Intervention)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | MARCH 3, 2011 | CHARLES LEVINSON, STEPHEN FIDLER in Brussels and JULIAN E. BARNES

Posted on 03/02/2011 8:17:50 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Senior U.S. defense officials tried to lower expectations of an international military intervention in Libya, as rebels, fighting off a key offensive by forces loyal to Col. Moammar Gadhafi, called for foreign airstrikes.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates, testifying before Congress, criticized "loose talk" about any military intervention in Libya, where military rebels and civilian opponents of the government are trying to topple Col. Gadhafi.

The U.S. and allies have discussed the prospect of imposing a no-fly zone over the North African country to prevent Col. Gadhafi from using air forces to strike at protesters. But Mr. Gates on Wednesday made clear the U.S. military would have to launch pre-emptive strikes to destroy Libya's air defenses if President Barack Obama ordered the imposition of a no-fly zone,

"Let's just call a spade a spade," Mr. Gates said. "A no-fly zone begins with an attack on Libya."

Mr. Gates's words were the strongest public indication of skepticism within the administration about establishing a no-fly zone, especially without broad international support.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: gates; libya; noflyzone; obama

1 posted on 03/02/2011 8:17:52 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

The United States will do nothing while Obama is in office.


2 posted on 03/02/2011 8:27:08 PM PST by Destroyer Sailor
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To: MinorityRepublican

Obama votes “present”? No, seriously?


3 posted on 03/02/2011 8:58:44 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Good for Gates to cool it on this one. His comments about how one ‘does’ a no fly zone - by attacking Libya and wiping out their air defenses - was a good reminder for everyone that it just doesn’t happen by buzzing around Tripoli once or twice. We need another war in the Middle East like we need a hole in the head. No more blood and treasure for these people, and no more interventions that help bring Islamists to power. Let these people pay the price for liberty, then maybe they’ll want to keep it.


4 posted on 03/02/2011 9:32:46 PM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives"-Ataturk)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Let the Bombing begin! Maybe 500 cruise missiles could take him down a notch or two....


5 posted on 03/02/2011 11:17:01 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: MinorityRepublican

Actually, I’m glad to see saner heads prevail on this one.

I don’t think it makes sense to risk our young men to try to help people who will resent us doing so.

Then in months or years the people we helped would be dancing in the streets when another attack hits the U. S.

I don’t like seeing any humans suffer, but the concept of “thanks” for these people is to bite the hand that feeds them.

Taking a pass is the right move here.


6 posted on 03/03/2011 12:40:41 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Notice that when we do pass other nations tend to step up to the plate which should have in the first place. Europe and the Arab League need to be on this...if anyone at all.


7 posted on 03/03/2011 12:42:44 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

I agree. And then there’s this too. Hell, let the Libyans take out their own trash.

Maybe we should be dancing in our streets now that thousands of their citizens are toes up, see how they like it.

Our first instinct is to help people, even if it is the Libyans. Their first instinct is to look for a soft spot so they can stick the knife in deep.

I’m just tired of watching these people’s destructive ways.


8 posted on 03/03/2011 12:48:22 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...)
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To: All; Rutles4Ever
I guess this explains why Brit PM Cameron backed off on the no-fly zone proposal - I guess Obama didn't want to do it!

Hillary's "3am ad" couldn't have been more on target with Obama.

9 posted on 03/03/2011 12:55:26 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: DoughtyOne
It's real simple for me, anything John McCain & John Kerry come together to agree on, IS WRONG FOR THE US !!

I am TOTALLY WITH YOU, DoughtyOne !!

When you hand these Muslims freedom on a silver platter ....what do they do with it ?? If they want freedom let them fight for it themselves.....then maybe they will appreciate it !!

10 posted on 03/03/2011 2:06:28 AM PST by W-Girl
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To: DoughtyOne

I find it amazing how Hellary and Obuma have become a timid variety of ‘NeoCon’ Hawks. The Leftist minds must be spinning like a tornado.

Also I agree that let these Islamic countries find their own level of democracy...we have already installed 2 ‘democratic’ islamic governments.


11 posted on 03/03/2011 3:18:50 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: MinorityRepublican

“as rebels, fighting off a key offensive by forces loyal to Col. Moammar Gadhafi, called for foreign airstrikes”

Uh, huh. And those very same rebels would turn against us if airstrikes help them gain control. Can`t trust any of them.


12 posted on 03/03/2011 3:45:01 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: MinorityRepublican

It is 3 AM and the president of the USA gets a phone call.

Chief of Staff - Michelle, where is Barack, he has a phone call.

Michelle - You are new? he is in a meeting with the new Social Secretary in the Oval Office.

Chief of Staff - Yes. I will take the phone call instead.
Please do not do anything the president is rather occupied at the time. Contact Robert Gates, he is the Secretary of Defense, and have a great day.

Who knows whether this is true or not, but one will just wonder. Rahm Emmanuel is no longer there and barack needs a girly man nearby.


13 posted on 03/03/2011 4:43:30 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: MinorityRepublican
If the commander in chief had any backbone and spine, he would have been able to easily put together a coalition of the willing with large support from the rest of the world to implement a no fly zone. I'll bet that Gadaffi's air defense system is no more complex than the ones we've taken out in Iraq twice in a matter of hours. Yes, it would precipitate an attack on Libya. However, if we did it and imposed a no fly zone, I believe that this civil war would be over in a matter of days. As it stands now, it's going to drag on for a long time and may split Libya in two. Gadaffi has no intention of quitting and he has the resources to hang on for quite a while IMO.

Our national interests lie in this being resolved soon and help to transition to some type of embroyonic democracy.
14 posted on 03/03/2011 5:34:01 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don’t want to help any stinkin’ muzzies. The more they kill each other, the better off we are. That’s the sorry truth of it, particularly as long as obathturd is in office.


15 posted on 03/03/2011 7:46:41 AM PST by ratsreek
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To: americanophile

Yep. Overt support by the US would be counterproductive; it would let Khadaffy’s propaganda machine misrepresent the rebellion as more nasty old “American Imperialism”.


16 posted on 03/03/2011 8:00:13 AM PST by Brain Mold
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To: W-Girl

Thanks W-Girl, we are on the same page. Take care.


17 posted on 03/03/2011 8:31:24 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...)
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To: iopscusa

We could very well come to wish we hadn’t become involved over there. I supported it and continue to, but the long term situation is something that is up in the air. It could very well turn out bad all the way around.

The question is, when someone attacks our nation, do we sit silently and take no actions? I think you have to do something, and Saddam Hussein was the go to guy because of his long term mouthing off in support of terrorists.

We’re in the region, the Taliban and Al Qaeda needed to be addressed.

Unless we’re going to withdraw from the international scene, we have to power when groups take us on.

I’m willing to listen to alternative ideas, but so far I haven’t heard any that made sense to me.


18 posted on 03/03/2011 8:44:54 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Does the West even have the capacity to enforce a No Fly zone in Libya?


19 posted on 03/03/2011 9:01:11 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: MinorityRepublican

Gates is correct. We have no business in Libya. Period.


20 posted on 03/03/2011 10:02:22 AM PST by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Told ya >>


To: dead
Yep. Help with evacuation. No big deal, blown way out of proportion here. And they won’t enforce a no fly zone. Too many variables. Escaping pilots, relief planes, etc.

41 posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:57:15 PM by mikhailovich
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21 posted on 03/04/2011 9:05:05 AM PST by mikhailovich
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

McCain's in favor of establishing a no-fly zone.

Show of hands -- how many support JOHN MCCAIN? ;')

That should shut everyone up, huh? ;')

Thanks MinorityRepublican.
22 posted on 03/04/2011 6:25:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I heard a very simple but effective idea: Bomb the airfields
so the planes can’t take off!


23 posted on 03/05/2011 3:53:47 PM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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