Skip to comments.Government e-mails reveal plot to stall budget repair bill
Posted on 03/02/2011 8:17:58 PM PST by Brown Deer
Before protesters stormed the capitol, the Mayor of the City of Madison tried to pull a fast one. The Governor's budget repair bill was on the fast track, and Madison Mayor Dave Ciesliewicz was racing against the clock to pass new union contracts first.
E-mails obtained by the FOX6 Investigators show that the mayor enlisted the help of State Senator Mark Miller. They both tried to convince the Secretary of State to hold up the bill by taking the maximum 10 days allowed by law before publishing the bill.
They were trying to buy some time so they could ratify new contracts to protect workers from benefit cuts. Citizens for Responsible Government Rep. Chris Kliesmet says, "This suggests, and this is a harsh word, collusion. There is collusion between some politicians and public sector employee unions. Period."
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Thanks Brown Deer.
Oooh a realization ... well golly, perhaps better late than never.
I’ve negotiated numerous labor contracts for public agencies. In most cases, my bargaining team was composed of managers and administrators who were in the same group, for insurance purposes, as the employees the union was representing, and stood to get the exact same benefit increases the union mugged the taxpayers out of. They could also count on getting the same raise as the union members after the contract was settled.
The governing body of the agency invariably had a least one or two, and sometimes a majority, of elected members who were elected with strong union support, and in a few cases even had members of the union elected. The entire process of public agency union collective bargaining is rotten to the very core, and amounts to no less than legally sanctioned plunder of the treasury. No one represents the public and the taxpayer in the process, and if there was any justice the corrupt politicians who foist this system on the American public in many states would find their rotten carcasses rotting in jail.
dimoKKKRATS caught red handed fleecing the tax payers to help their union buddies so that they can contribute money to the DNC. Just an old fashion con-game at the expense of the tax payer.
Who cares? Nobody gets fired, nobody pays a price, Anarchy is reigning at the WI Capital, Nobody is arrested. It’s all about PR, not law and order.
“They both tried to convince the Secretary of State to hold up the bill by taking the maximum 10 days allowed by law before publishing the bill. “
hmmmmmm....Secretaries of State.....bought off by Soros.
Good relations and no money works for me.
The Unions might as well officially become part of the DNC. Or is that the DNC become part of the Unions? Hmm.
They were trying to buy some time so they could ratify new contracts to protect workers from benefit cuts. Citizens for Responsible Government Rep. Chris Kliesmet says, "This suggests, and this is a harsh word, collusion. There is collusion between some politicians and public sector employee unions. Period."Just as has been speculated on the WI board!
Every last one of these pond scum-swilling reprobates oughta be found dancing under the trees with their loafers two feet off the turf.
Yep. You nailed it. There won’t be any repercussions for the Dems. There never are, and I imagine some GOP members will take the fall without any support, solely because the GOP doesn’t have a slush fund of taxpayer dollars to spend.
The Secretary of State project.
Thank you for the link.
I live in one of those states...
Democrat corruption in a concentrated parasite nest (”city”) like Madison, Wisconsin?
No. That just can’t be. I’ll believe it when our crackerjack FBI hands up the indictments.
Finally they are starting to wake-up. See this post from me last night,
And I have been saying this for awhile and being politely FR ignored. I am tellin' you all if we don't start muckraking the democrats across the coals and forcing prosecutions we're are going to lose the battle to keep our country a Nation of Laws!
IF the GOP won't prosecute, and we really need to stop depending on them to do this, it is up to We the People to demand justice!
Absolutely. Where the heck are the conservative lawyers? IF we don't have enough we better start training some.
We gotta start putting corrupt marxists in jail.
I don't know, but they sure seem to be hiding like democrats. Keep in mind they would be going up against a very dangerous mafia like machine. It would be prudent to understand it is not just about their lawyer fee's etc., but it would also require their security and protection.
The GOP is too RINO(chicken) to do this. It is going to be up to We the People and we must find our courage and bravado NOW.
Collusion? We all knew it!
Are there real journalists in Wisconsin ?
I do understand how serious it is. But it must be done. I just hope we can find the will and the people to do it.
This is a real war. We need to fight it or roll over and watch our republic die. I don't want to do that.
Thanks for your personal testimony about how corrupt and self serving union contract negotiations are in the public sector. In the private sector shareholders are represented at the negotiating table. In the public sector taxpayers have no representation at the negotiating table. Taxpayers only have hacks who pretend to be negotiating on their behalf
thanks for the information. there is probably a lot more to come. keep in mind Dane County being the liberalist county in Wisconsin. The State Offices being staffed by primarily Democrats as employees will show forth a lot more corruption and greed to slow the attempts of Governor Walker.
There will be more complicity discovered within the ranks of the State Employees in Madison. It will not just by the Secertary of states Office, it will include department of administration employees department of Transportation, Police Capitol, City, County and State, Fire and others.
having lived in Madison. My eyes were opened to lots of issues that I never saw before in my lifetime. In doing a required practicum course for working with people whom are developmentally disabled in supported employment. My eyes were opened to the issue of a ‘partner’ of an attractive female. A partner being her female partner.
I asked to switched to a different worksite immediately for the practicum. I was switched to a Christian organization Intervarsity Christian fellowship to do my practicum of people with dvelopmental disability in Supported Employment. A much nicer place to finish the requirements for a BSW. An MSW had a whole different requirements and a different set of learning experiences.
One thing I can remember being told I must be able to be come more tolerant of others with diverse views and so forth. My response was no I do not have to be tolerant , because the tolerance to my own diverse views is being told I am wrong. Being a conservative in Madison was a challenge.
Unfortunately there will be more corruption and diversionary tactics discovered at many levels throughout Dane County, City of Madison and within the State of Wisconsin, governemt at all levels.
As FR do we expect not to see how corrupt and devious the Democrats are. They will not go out of power unless the kick and scream and strive to do collusion, corruption and even commit crimes to justify their existence. A democrat whom is in power will not go without striving to destroy an entire State, so the union idiots can foster their own deception.
What these IDIOTS at the city level fail to realize is that they’ve just signed their LIVES away to the unions! Once the budget is passsed, and it will be, the money flow from State Government to the cities and municipalities will be drying up!
So, they have essentially locked themseves in to more costly union contracts...and there won’t be money to pay for them! (Not that there even is now!)
So, look for garbage strikes and no road repairs in your near future! Hope you don’t need a cop or a fireman or an EMT to help yo, because they’ll be on strike, or so short-handed as to be unavailable!
Thanks again, Liberals! Man, you guys sure know how to screw the taxpayer at every turn...all for the benefit of your union buddies! Grrrr!
Meanwhile, as everyone is focused on the corruption issue, the rush to get new public sector contracts to protect workers from benefit cuts will amount to a huge tax increase in local communities, if Walker’s budget repair bill passes. There will not be the state funds supplied to the local communities to cover the union mandated (negotiated) increases - as was done under Doyal et al in the past.
If the bill passes, then the unions and their shills in the Dem Party will attempt to blame locally imposed tax increases on Walker.
The other half of collusion is kickback
In public school they taught us that this sort of thing is called a conspiracy!
arrest them all!
Put an end to the machine!
And what are the dull-witted, useless pubs doing about it? Nothing. Not a damn thing, as usual.
Oh, wait. They’re accommodating them by meeting secretly with them at their beck and call.
I agree. The GOP are a bunch of wimps. Waiting and relying on them to do anything right is stupid.
How many of these jurisdictions/municipalities succeeded in getting their contracts done while Walker and the pubs jerked off, too chicken to even pass a voter ID or bust up some gun laws while waiting for the unions and the slob commie government bastards to get their ducks in a row for their fatassed contracts??
Ouch.....if only we had an honest media that would be reporting this with the same enthusiasm as they’ve reported the protests.
Even if it doesn't involve personal security, the Machine would also make it a point to make the lawyers' other clients miserable. Visualize somebody compiling a list of companies and individuals that the lawyer has represented, and posting the list as "These entities are associated with anti-labor lawyer Joe Smith"
I’m interested in hearing more about these off-site intimidation encounters you speak of. How many? Where? Whom? Of what nature are the tactics used?
[It appears the 14 Senators orchestrated their trip to Illinois to buy time for unions all over the state to work out new deals.]
So how do they plan to pay for these “deals” when they do not get the money from the state? They plan to hold over the publics head massive layoffs of teachers, firefighters, and cops, and massive cuts in services unless they agree to tax increases.
This is not good faith negotiations, and people should be presecuted.
Just goes to prove that when it comes to contract negotiations between the politicians and the unions no one is looking out for the taxpayers.
I read the article.
Does anybody have any idea to what extent new contracts have been signed and sealed while the 14 are on the lam?