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Wyoming governor signs concealed gun bill
AP ^ | 2 March, 2011 | AP

Posted on 03/03/2011 4:01:35 AM PST by marktwain

CHEYENNE — Wyoming has become the fourth state to allow citizens to carry concealed guns without a permit.

(Excerpt) Read more at trib.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: banglist; carry; constitution; poll; wy
I have been in this war to restore the Constitution for a long time. Most of the victorious fights have been started by the grass roots and won by the grass roots. The NRA has been quite helpful in a lot of areas such as overall education and awareness, and in pushing for preemption bills. All too often, though, the NRA has to be dragged into the fight after the prep work has been done, and only arrives after the issue is mostly settled.

The gun industry has to be dragged, reluctantly and hesitantly, into supporting some efforts. They are pretty good when they are directly threatened, such as the bill to prevent frivilous lawsuits against them. Mostly, they do not want the publicity of being in the fight. I think that is bad policy on their part, but that is the way it is.

The idea that these grass roots directed battles to restore our Constitutional rights are pushed by the firearms industry to increase profits, is laughable to anyone who has actually been in the trenches. It is so far removed from reality that it fits the "big lie" category.

Now we have four states with Constitutional carry. I predicted that we would have at least five by the end of this year. Who will be next? New Hampshire? South Carolina? Kentucky? Wisconsin? Tennesee? Idaho? Utah? Maine?

1 posted on 03/03/2011 4:01:40 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The article does not mention the names of the other 3 states who allow concealed carry without a permit. They are Alaska, Vermont, and Arizona.


2 posted on 03/03/2011 4:07:42 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: marktwain

It sure as heck won’t be Nebraska.


3 posted on 03/03/2011 4:09:50 AM PST by Vor Lady
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To: Texas Fossil

I am seriously considering a move back to AZ.


4 posted on 03/03/2011 4:19:30 AM PST by Loud Mime (If it is too stupid to be said, people will listen to it, if sung - - Voltaire)
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To: marktwain
Now we have four states with Constitutional carry. I predicted that we would have at least five by the end of this year. Who will be next? New Hampshire? South Carolina? Kentucky? Wisconsin? Tennesee? Idaho? Utah? Maine?

Another victory!

It is truly wonderful how far we have come from the awful days of the 1970s, when it appeared that the RKBA was being crushed out of existence.

Now most states have "shall issue" concealed carry licenses, and in four states, we have achieved constitutional carry.

My ultimate dream is to pass a federal firearms freedom act, eliminating all federal firearms control and taxation:

Federal Firearms Freedom Act

1) United States Code Title 18, Part I, Chapter 44 is hereby repealed in its entirety.
2) United States Code Title 26, Subtitle E, Chapter 53 is hereby repealed in its entirety.

The first part takes care of all of 922 and 923. The second part takes care of the Internal Revenue Code related to 922 and 923.

5 posted on 03/03/2011 4:25:48 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: marktwain
Who will be next?

Colorado is on the way. Colorado HB1205 - passed out of committee a few days ago on an 8-3 vote.

6 posted on 03/03/2011 4:35:55 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Texas Fossil

VT, WY, AK, AZ. Great. That means that a whole 2.5% of the US population actually possess their full 2A rights.


7 posted on 03/03/2011 4:39:19 AM PST by wideawake
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To: marktwain; Envisioning; waterhill

Ping.


8 posted on 03/03/2011 4:51:09 AM PST by ixtl (You live and learn; or you don't live long.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Excellent news. The march towards Constitutional carry chalks up another victory.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

9 posted on 03/03/2011 4:51:09 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain

EXCELLENT! I hope the trend for Constitutional Carry makes its way across the states. Amazing. I never thought we’d have 4.


10 posted on 03/03/2011 4:52:48 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: wideawake
If you have a better suggestion, a more effective means to redress the issue...

Let's hear it.

11 posted on 03/03/2011 5:21:37 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: marktwain; milwguy

What about Wisconsin?? - an island in the nation (along with Illinois).


12 posted on 03/03/2011 5:29:57 AM PST by Obadiah (If you were going to shoot a mime, would you use a silencer?)
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To: wideawake

Yep, I have said for quite a while “if we truely had the right to bear arms, I could own my own howitzer”. (guess I could if I made it inoperable.)


13 posted on 03/03/2011 5:38:25 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

14 posted on 03/03/2011 5:44:58 AM PST by jdege
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To: jdege

Very obvious pattern of growth. Thanks for graphics.


15 posted on 03/03/2011 5:48:11 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Malsua

Yes!
This should be an incentive for the Colorado Senate to pass it too.
The Colorado House already passed it.
Now if our Democrat governor Hickenlooper doesn’t fail us,
but we may have enough votes to override anyway.

Yippee!


16 posted on 03/03/2011 5:51:03 AM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Obadiah

That will happen here in Wisconsin before the end of the year. Have to get the budget fixed first.


17 posted on 03/03/2011 6:44:20 AM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy

I hope you are right.


18 posted on 03/03/2011 6:49:45 AM PST by Obadiah (If you were going to shoot a mime, would you use a silencer?)
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To: milwguy

Many people don’t remember this, but there was one other recent time when Republicans had majorities in the Legislature and a Republican governor. I believe it was 1994 with Thompson when they tried to pass CC and they couldn’t do it.


19 posted on 03/03/2011 6:52:05 AM PST by Obadiah (If you were going to shoot a mime, would you use a silencer?)
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To: Texas Fossil
The article does not mention the names of the other 3 states who allow concealed carry without a permit. They are Alaska, Vermont, and Arizona.

They do say "Alaska, Arizona and Vermont already don't require permits for carrying concealed guns."

20 posted on 03/03/2011 7:03:04 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: wideawake

However, they are not allowed to carry everywhere in the state, so even in some of those states, there are significant restrictions.


21 posted on 03/03/2011 7:07:12 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: marktwain

If Texas doesn’t join this list this year, there’s going to be some serious consequences to the RINO legislooters.


22 posted on 03/03/2011 7:30:24 AM PST by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: wideawake; Dead Corpse
VT, WY, AK, AZ. Great. That means that a whole 2.5% of the US population actually possess their full 2A rights.

I find it refreshing news for a change. It may not seem like much, but then again, a few states could kick start the whole thing.

I think the gun grabbers are losing ground, even if a little.

It seems that before are tired victims, even on the left.

JMO--HRAWH.

23 posted on 03/03/2011 7:38:06 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Joe Brower

Be Ever Vigilant!


24 posted on 03/03/2011 7:45:23 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Loud Mime
Good idea. If I couldn't live here in my adopted home state of Idaho, Arizona and Texas would be my top two choices. Wyoming ain't bad, either.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

25 posted on 03/03/2011 8:37:40 AM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: wku man

Buffalo, Wyoming is my choice for a summer home. I no longer have the frontier blood to do the winters there.


26 posted on 03/03/2011 8:40:17 AM PST by Loud Mime (If it is too stupid to be said, people will listen to it, if sung - - Voltaire)
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To: Vor Lady

Remember that Ernie Chambers is no longer in the Legislature. He is the one and only reason that it took so long to get a concealed carry permit. Without him, the no-permit option might happen.


27 posted on 03/03/2011 10:37:10 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: marktwain; All

Constitutional carry is the law of the land....the courts have just not recognized it yet.


28 posted on 03/03/2011 11:47:20 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (islam- It's a religion of peace (0.0000000000000000001% of the time))
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To: zeugma
Has it been brought up before? Are there any current bills out there for us to write our state congress critters about?

If not, we should find an NRA friendly rep and push for it.
29 posted on 03/03/2011 1:34:17 PM PST by NoGodsJustGuns
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To: marktwain
I have been in this war to restore the Constitution for a long time.

Your efforts have been noted by others, my FRiend. 'Preciate it!

30 posted on 03/03/2011 3:14:12 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: wideawake
VT, WY, AK, AZ. Great. That means that a whole 2.5% of the US population actually possess their full 2A rights.

Not quite. Though things are better in those states- and improving, there remain restrictions from the federal level that are onerous and unjust. That'll be a later step.

But as for those other states which refuse to show full faith and credit to our states' carry permits when we visit there? Why should we continue to recoignize their driver's licenses or automobile registration and license plates when they come to Wyoming. It's time to start arresting those folks and confiscating their vehicles....

31 posted on 03/03/2011 3:19:40 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: wku man
Good idea. If I couldn't live here in my adopted home state of Idaho, Arizona and Texas would be my top two choices. Wyoming ain't bad, either.

Nor Montana, which is not only taclking open carry, but working on a few other items as well.

32 posted on 03/03/2011 3:22:18 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Obadiah
What about Wisconsin?? - an island in the nation (along with Illinois).

WI currently has no CCW provision at all. The legislature previously tried to pass CCW, but it was vetoed by the Dem governor.

With the Fleebaggers out of town, they can't pass licensed CCW, since that would require an appropriation for the record keeping. But they CAN pass Constitutional Carry without any need for the Dems.

33 posted on 03/03/2011 3:25:30 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625
“With the Fleebaggers out of town, they can't pass licensed CCW, since that would require an appropriation for the record keeping. But they CAN pass Constitutional Carry without any need for the Dems.”

Bingo! And they should do it. It would fire up their base, and some of those Union members who are Second Amendment Constitutionalists. They would be seen as heroic and courageous, and not without reason, given the thugish mobs around the Capitol.

34 posted on 03/03/2011 4:25:58 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Texas Fossil

God, even a despicable drug dealer or a nut case has the God-given Right to Self-Defense!
As I know from personal experience, “Those who shouldn’t have guns” include the Politically Incorrect and politically vocal persons pointing out corruption such as myself who the local Sheriff simply doesn’t like.
Why do they demand “Training?” From all my lifelong of experience, there are simply levels of deterrence, and most criminals never even get shot.
Wearing openly at times, is good. That saved me and my son’s life, one time. Simply drawing, and even that loud click of the hammer going back is quite another, and that was another time. Most self-defense actions take place in very close range, so why exact Police State Taxes and the like on, say, some little old lady from keeping a .38 in her purse?
The Police simply don’t like it because, otherwise, everyone has to “Call 911!” Keeping THEM in CONTROL - And increasing their own funding for nice, new, shiny cars and uniforms, and new radio gadgets, and status in the community. AND the adrenaline rush.
It’s a Power Trip, a very human trait, yet one the US Constitution was designed to guard against.
Know what “Police” also means? To “Clean up.”
In my younger years, the Police were called to clean up after whatever citizens had concluded their private business.
Now, they’re set out on Orwellian “Potential Mind Crimes that one might not even know one possesses the ability for...”
Felonies, once a rare charge, now will put you in prison, forever take away your political voice and your right to defend yourself, your family, home, religion, town... for so much as spitting on the sidewalk.
And the next CC state will be Colorado.


35 posted on 03/04/2011 4:01:43 AM PST by RickAHyatt
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To: RickAHyatt
I was a traveling salesman for 30 years and most of that time I carried a hand gun in the car. Only had to produce it 2 times and fortunately did not have to use it. I understand what you stated and agree.

The militarization of the local Law Enforcement truly bothers me. I live in a town of 700 people and the local officer wears a black uniform. He is a couple of years younger than I am. My brother was briefly married to his sister. There is nothing threatening about him and he does a fine job of law enforcement. He is a good friend. None the less the culture has spilled over on him.

36 posted on 03/04/2011 6:09:00 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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