Posted on 03/03/2011 4:56:36 AM PST by Daisyjane69
Here's something he said earlier:
The topic (in advance of today's phony unemployment numbers) was how to get companies to hire workers. Lots of back & forth. But here is the kicker: Zell mentions that while Obamacare was about to come up for the final, miserable vote he went to Capitol Hill to "lobby" a couple of lawmakers. Reminding them that this kind of bill with so much uncertainty built into it, was guaranteed to put a chill on employment.
Here is the exchange he relayed to the host.
Zell to lawmaker: This bill gives only 6 years of services, based on 10 years of revenue. What happens in Year 11 ????
Lawmaker: I'm 80 years old.
Folks, if that is the mindset on the Hill, we're DOOMED
Also, read Patrick Henry’s brilliant speech from June 5th, 1788, at the beginning of the VA ratification debates.
http://www.constitution.org/rc/rat_va_04.htm
scroll down a little. it’s long but WORTH it. here’s a teaser:
The American spirit has fled from hence: it has gone to regions where it has never been expected; it has gone to the people of France, in search of a splendid government — a strong, energetic government. Shall we imitate the example of those nations who have gone from a simple to a splendid government? Are those nations more worthy of our imitation? What can make an adequate satisfaction to them for the loss they have suffered in attaining such a government — for the loss of their liberty?
If we admit this consolidated government, it will be because we like a great, splendid one. Some way or other we must be a great and mighty empire; we must have an army, and a navy, and a number of things. When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: liberty, sir, was then the primary object. We are descended from a people whose government was founded on liberty: our glorious forefathers of Great Britain made liberty the foundation {54} of every thing. That country is become a great, mighty, and splendid nation; not because their government is strong and energetic, but, sir, because liberty is its direct end and foundation.
We drew the spirit of liberty from our British ancestors: by that spirit we have triumphed over every difficulty. But now, sir, the American spirit, assisted by the ropes and chains of consolidation, is about to convert this country into a powerful and mighty empire. If you make the citizens of this country agree to become the subjects of one great consolidated empire of America, your government will not have sufficient energy to keep them together.
Such a government is incompatible with the genius of republicanism. There will be no checks, no real balances, in this government. What can avail your specious, imaginary balances, your rope-dancing, chain-rattling, ridiculous ideal checks and contrivances?
Don’t forget that some of the Federalists believed that such a bill was unnecessary as the states were to ensure individual rights through their own state constitutions. They were, of course, WRONG, but...
I heard Sam say he loved Chicago Mayor Daily, supported Rahm Emanuel and thinks Rahm will be great for Chicago.
I think Sam is only interested in what’s good for Sam, not the country.
Ditto....squared
Most especially Madison. Of course, to me, the Bill of Rights is a double edged sword, too. It has been used to protect liberty. It has also been used to justify national power. The power of the judiciary is so massive--basically infinite--and at the same time completely unaccountable. They have used the bill of rights for good and ill.
if he wants to do business in chicago, he has to watch what he says, and he knows it. His more general comments on the dollar and healthcare don’t specifically make him a target to a particular local government.
Me too, and it has grown stronger every day since.
Here in NJ, the statewide-elected Senators are BLUE. They are elected by a state with a population of over 8 million. That would not change if the legislature were appointing the senators.
Meanwhile, here in NJ-5, with a population of about 650K, we easily elect and re-elect Rep. Scott Garrett, with a 100 ACU rating. So no, senators are not the same as representatives.
States don't lack power because of the way senators are elected. They lack power because it is the tendency of the national government created by the Constitution to take their power, and leave them very little.
I actually volunteered on my own dime for a week in PA for McCain just so I could say I did my part because I knew what a catastrophe was looming with this muslim marxist sleeper cell.
Pay is just one of the items I mentioned. I believe states should have right of recall at any time and power to set pay because if senators truly work for the state, the state should have the powers a normal employer has. I also believe rotation in office is necessary, to limit the corruption to which you alluded.
I cast my vote for Sarah but there is no way in hell I could work or contribute to McCain. I consider him as one that has abrogated his Oath of Office. Hussein promised to fundamentally change this nation. I guess that's what the majority wanted. They have yet to completely get what they asked for but it is right around the corner.
Keep your powder dry FRiend.
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Hey Huck, thanks for that link.
No problem. Enjoy. For me, that June 5th 1788 speech is one of the all time great American political speeches. But, history belongs to the winners, and sadly, Henry’s side lost that fight. Goliath beat David.
Sure looks like it, I’d not seen it before. Bookmarked for more study. These Virginians were remarkable men. Do you happen to know which Mr. Lee is the one speaking?
I think that would have been Richard Henry Lee,no?
The reason no one is hiring and our economy is foundering is no mystery. Its a problem of philosophy. America was founded on one philosophy, individualism, but most people hold to its antipode, alltruism. It’s the contradiction that is destroying us. You can’t have both. Its one or the other.
Obama is the job killer, nation destroyer, typhoid mary of modern day america.
Rush talking about this now
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