Skip to comments.NEW YORK PLANS GUN REGISTRATION
Posted on 03/03/2011 7:04:23 AM PST by shortstop
First they came for our bicycles.
Now theyve come for our guns.
One day after word leaked of a New York State plan to require license plates and annual fees for bicycles, information has gotten out about pending legislation that would register and attach a fee to every firearm in the state.
Already one of the most anti-gun states in the country, New Yorks move would all but nullify the Second Amendment.
At issue is Senate Bill 2994, which is linked in its entirety at the bottom of this column. It would require every gun owner in the state to make a list of their firearms, to include make, description and serial number, and file that list with the county clerk.
Further, gun owners would have to specify where in their homes each of their firearms were stored when not in use.
And there would be a $25 fee charged for each gun which would have to be renewed annually at a cost of $10 each gun.
Firearms owners would be issued a photo ID listing the guns registered to their name.
If a gun was sold, swapped or stolen, that information would have to be filed with the clerk.
Failure to obey any particular of the proposed law would be a misdemeanor.
Why do they want to do this?
Heres what a memo from the sponsor says: Through the use of an annual firearm registration, we are able to have better tracking supervision of the firearms circulating in New York State. There are many firearms that are illegally possessed in New York State but by implementing a constant registry of firearms we can come a step closer to identifying those illegal firearms. Also with this annual registration of firearms, firearm owners are better protected by law if the firearm is stolen or lost and something unfortunately happens with their particular firearm.
Better tracking supervision of the firearms circulating in New York?
Is it the governments business to track or supervise the firearms in the state?
Notice that this bill isnt just about handguns which are already registered in the state it is about all guns. That means family heirlooms and hunting guns are also subject to registration, and expensive ownership fees.
Registration is the foreplay of confiscation, and this piece of legislation would put the physical location of every legal gun in the state at the touch of the governments finger. The government would know who had guns and where they kept them.
And so too, presumably, would anyone who filed a freedom of information request. New York has already held that its pistol permits which include personal information as well as a list of handguns owned are public records. This new list of guns and gun owners would also be a public record.
Which means the bad guys have just learned where every gun is. That tells them what houses are unprotected, that tells them what houses they should burglarize.
And with the list of where each gun is stored, it will make burglary all the easier.
This bill is an assault on freedom, a disrespect to the Second Amendment, and a perfect illustration of the burden of oppression New Yorkers suffer under. It is part of the ongoing enshackling of the American people.
It is the insane perspective of big-city liberals, this is a good thing. This is a play to a progressive constituency which is intolerant of any perspective other than its own.
Prospects for passage are uncertain.
New Yorks governor is an anti-gun Democrat. New Yorks Assembly is controlled by anti-gun Democrats. New Yorks Senate is controlled by Republicans. But they have a one-vote margin, and it being New York some of them are anti-gun.
So this bill has a fair chance of becoming law.
Which means a test of how much people will take might be coming.
Because this is none of the governments business. Gun ownership should not be subject to an annual fee. Gun registration is un-American. Carrying around a photo ID to prove youve registered your deer gun is offensive.
And many New Yorkers wont take it.
This may be the one that drives the law-abiding into law-breaking.
Because my guns are none of the governments business. And where I keep them is none of the governments business. And Im not going to pay an annual fee to exercise a constitutional right.
I am SO f***ing happy I left that bottom-feeder of a state.
Pffft... patently UnConstitutional.
I think guns mfg before 1898 are not considered firearms.
Just one more reason to move out'a Dodge.
Cue up the NRA...
NO - IT WON'T
NY arguably the worst anti-gun anti-self defense sh!thole in the US. NY needs to be given to Quebec killing two birds with one stone. Getting rid on NC and sticking it to Quebec.
it should say
NEW YORK PLANS Illegal Alien REGISTRATION
We should swap out all of New England for Alberta.
Who in their right mind would live in New York.
mostly works for me, but VT and NH aren’t too bad.
New York needs more Detroit experience.
Who in their right mind would even go there to visit and spend money there?
“Who in their right mind would live in New York.”
My 65 year old father in Upstate NY.
He says he’ll be the last conservative standing and will not be driven from his home.
The man’s a fighter.
I’ve been asking that question of myself a lot lately.
Would you believe that a New Yorker implied that I was crazy for calling NY an anti-self defense s**thole. I don't remember who.
"Although your State and local laws may vary, any firearm with a frame or receiver that actually made before Jan. 1, 1899 is legally "antique" and not considered a "firearm" under Federal law. This refers to the actual date of manufacture of the receiver/frame, not just model year or patent date marked. (For example, only ***low serial number*** Winchester Model 1894 lever actions are actually antique.) No FFL is required to buy or sell antiques across state lines. They are in the same legal category as a muzzle loading replica. I regularly ship them right to people's doorstep via UPS, with no "paper trail." Think of it as the last bastion of gun ownership and transfer privacy. "
Though I was amused by seeing how extreme a gun I could get there. Sheriff was amused when I aked for his signature for an NFA 12-ga pistol.
Sounds more like you have a criminal populance, not criminal guns.
What a duffass!
Leave the state and take your money with you, fools.
no, No, NO!
Unfortunately, I have family there and because my mom is there (especially) I travel to that s***hole of a state at least once a year, to visit the last few good people in the state
FUNY. If they want money they should put a $100/year tax on every illegitimate kid living in the state. That should rake in $100 million easy.
blah blahhhh, blah blah blah blah blahhhhh, blah blah blah blah blahhhh, blah blah blah blah...BLAH!!! Hey!
I think they’ll make the standard protestations, send out to the membership the usual mailers for more donations (which will pizz off a lot of people for some reason), I guess some believe they do, or can do, this stuff for free...
At the end of the day I am glad I don’t have to do a damn thing with my guns...
New York gets what it votes for...
A few of my firearms never had serial numbers.
firearm owners are better protected by law if the firearm is stolen or lost and something unfortunately happens with their particular firearm
If your gun is stolen, report it to the police. You're protected. That's how it works now, and this won't help any better.
Reason number 237 why I will not take up my sisters request for me to move back to NY. Sorry anout that sis.
That’s federal law. NY law, and definitions of what constitutes a firearm, may differ.
Guess they just like giving SCOTUS the additional opportunities to say “NO!”
Hard to feel sorry for New Yorkers though. When you elect the fornicating son of Mario the Pious as your Governor, what can you expect?
YUP. Read it in the 60’s...and in the 70’s...and in the 80’s...and in the 90’s.
When I first moved to WV from NYC in ‘02, I had a conversation with a young college student. She had just taken a trip to Fun City and she asked me, “Why do they have so many rules in New York?” I pretty much replied with my tag line. Three days later I gave her a copy of the book. The last time I saw her (still in ‘02) she was carrying it around with a highlight pen as a bookmark.
The movie is coming out soon brother Lurker...
I guarantee you will never again find me north of Tennessee and east of the Big River.
Right, right - vote with feet - while we still have the freedom.
NH gun laws are great and may soon get better - our legislature is considering doing away with CCW registration entirely (like VT and AK). New York sucks in just so many ways...
LOL! I actually have one! It works great with CCI Mini-Mags. It's my tackle-box gun; won't cry if it falls in the lake!
No less than Bill Clinton credited NRA with making the difference in Algore’s losing presidential campaign.
“And there would be a $25 fee charged for each gun which would have to be renewed annually at a cost of $10 each gun.
Firearms owners would be issued a photo ID listing the guns registered to their name.”
Will happen only over my dead body.
Being elected to office does NOT mean that I must stand and salute any damned unconstitutional crap you run up the pole. The utter CONTEMPT held by our “leaders” for the Law is becoming manifest.
I have an idea, lets ban Crime, hey it works every time it's tried. /s
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
I ain´t registerin´ no guns. F ´em.
That's why I wouldn't want NH and VT to be annexed by Quebec. As for the rest of New England - no loss.
New York sucks in just so many ways...
It's the people who live there. The little tin tyrants that NY sends to Kongress and their own legisature aren't elected at random. They're elected because they reflect the attitudes of the majority of the voters in their districts. Every time I look at what some retard in NY government does that further limits the freedom of the morons who live there, I see more proof that New Yorkers want to be slaves, that New Yorkers are afraid of freedom, that New Yorkers want to be helpless, etc. New York is a tumor on the body politic.
Unbelievably naive. Just plain stupid.
“Reason number 237 why I will not take up my sisters request for me to move back to NY. Sorry anout that sis.”
What an amazing coincidence, its also reason # 237 that I will be moving my high-earning, high tax-paying butt out of NY at the earliest opportunity.
The liberals in this once great state have destroyed it. I seriously doubt that anything utter than government shutdown and a civil war would change anything.
There are so many great things about New York, but the government has infiltrated so much of our lives.
I went to a local gun show a few weeks ago. As I entered the venue, I was asked if I had (my legally registered handgun) on me. Like an idiot, I said yes. They then said I could not enter the venue until it was tagged with an electrical tie to prevent it from being fired.
Yes, it is an offender protected society and the law abiding citizens have their rights taken away.
Just plain stupid.
I disagree. If you substitute "firearms not held by government agents" for "illegal firearms" then it makes perfect sense. The people in favor of this want ONLY the police and military armed. In their minds every gun not in the hands of police IS an illegal firearm.
The anti-gunners never rest. They never give up. They cannot be reaoned with. They have no pity on citizens who want to protect their families and property from unorganized and organized thugs. They cannot be compromised with because they never willingingly concede anything. Every restriction they gain is always a "good first step." When their schemes inevitably fail to produce the stated goals, it's always because "We didn't go far enough." This struggle can only end one of three ways.
That is exactly my point. The liberals are the vast majority of the inhabitants. NY isn't an anti-self defense sh!thole because of the weather or the topography. It's because of the people who live there.