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CONFIRMED: Border Agent Terry Was FORCED TO USE BEANBAGS Against Armed Mexican Killers...
Gateway Pundit ^ | 3/3/2011 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 03/03/2011 8:59:11 AM PST by Qbert

The outrageous rumors were true.

Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was forced to use beanbags against armed Mexican killers before he was shot dead in Arizona in December.

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Agent Brian Terry was forced to defend himself and this country with beanbags.

The Arizona Daily Star reported:

Border Patrol agents shot beanbags at a group of suspected bandits before the men returned fire during a confrontation in a remote canyon, killing agent Brian Terry with a single gunshot, records show.

And an illegal immigrant wounded in the gunbattle who is now the only person in custody linked to the slaying contends he never fired a shot, according to FBI search warrant requests filed in the U.S. District Court in Tucson.

The documents provide the most detailed version yet of what happened in the deadly gunbattle Dec. 14 in Peck Canyon, northwest of Nogales.

The documents say the group of illegal border entrants refused commands to drop their weapons after agents confronted them at about 11:15 p.m. Two agents fired beanbags at the migrants, who responded with gunfire. Two agents returned fire, one with a long gun and one with a pistol, but Terry was mortally wounded in the gunfight.

Border Patrol officials declined to answer questions about protocol for use of force, citing the ongoing investigation.

But Terry’s brother, Kent Terry, said the other agents who were there that night told him that they were instructed to use the non-lethal beanbags first. It’s a policy that doesn’t make sense to Kent Terry.

“You go up against a bandit crew that is carrying AKs, and you walk out there with guns loaded with beanbags – I don’t get it,” Terry said in a phone interview from Michigan. “It’s like going to the Iraqi war with one knife. It boggles my mind. … These guys (Border Patrol agents) are professionals; they should be able to use their judgment call on their own.”

But, don’t worry. Barack Obama says the border is as safe today as it’s ever been.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; az; banglist; beanbag; border; brianterry; crimaliens; gunwalker; illegalimmigration; illegals; mexico; napolitano; outrage; projectgunwalker; targetpractice; whocares
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1 posted on 03/03/2011 8:59:17 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

2 posted on 03/03/2011 9:01:23 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many younger conservative Christians out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Qbert

OUTRAGEOUS!

and NO ONE will be fired.....


3 posted on 03/03/2011 9:02:03 AM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: Qbert

When shooting Mexicans, you shouldn’t use beanbags anyway. It’s racist.


4 posted on 03/03/2011 9:03:25 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: eeevil conservative

Holder would have probably sued the agents had they used real bullets.


5 posted on 03/03/2011 9:03:32 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Migraine
When shooting Mexicans, you shouldn’t use beanbags anyway. It’s racist.

LOL! Post of the day!

6 posted on 03/03/2011 9:04:21 AM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: Qbert

All thanks to the damn Beanbag in the White House!


7 posted on 03/03/2011 9:04:47 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Migraine

Now I know what Dt. Dew out the nose feels like.

Thanks

Lol


8 posted on 03/03/2011 9:05:00 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Qbert

Progressive dream unfolding in front of our eyes...

How much you want to bet they wouldn’t be forced to use bean bags against the Tea Party?


9 posted on 03/03/2011 9:05:00 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Qbert

Un-FN-believable. I damn feel sorry for the Terry family who had to put up with this GD idiot administration. Anyone here on FR would have blasted these mexican scumfks with their own firearms if the situation was different.


10 posted on 03/03/2011 9:05:47 AM PST by max americana
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To: eeevil conservative

Bump.


11 posted on 03/03/2011 9:06:04 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Qbert

Not mentioned in the article is ATF’s active and complicit role in the murder of the Agent.


12 posted on 03/03/2011 9:06:36 AM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: eeevil conservative

Americans are just sitting ducks these days- Arizona, Mexico, Somalia coast, Germany...

All for the apparent “crime” of being American in the administration’s eyes.


13 posted on 03/03/2011 9:07:00 AM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Qbert

Damn!


14 posted on 03/03/2011 9:07:09 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Qbert

I live in a country governed by traitors? FUBO.


15 posted on 03/03/2011 9:07:54 AM PST by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: Qbert

Crazy!


16 posted on 03/03/2011 9:08:25 AM PST by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: All

The Border Patrol Agents mistook the bandits guns for tortillas. They were preparing to request backup cheese and salsa.


17 posted on 03/03/2011 9:08:47 AM PST by FUBO (and EFF EWE Al Gore)
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To: Migraine

Thank God they weren’t forced to lob greaseballs at ‘em.


18 posted on 03/03/2011 9:08:51 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: Qbert
Agent Brian Terry was forced to use beanbags against armed Mexican killers before he was shot dead in Arizona in December.

Good God....

I'd make someone pay big if that was my kid.

19 posted on 03/03/2011 9:09:00 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: surfer

The use of excessive force in the apprehension and destruction of the TEA party has been approved.


20 posted on 03/03/2011 9:10:09 AM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Qbert
Agent Brian Terry was forced to defend himself and this country with beanbags against these Mexican killers.

Someone needs to pay hard for this...

21 posted on 03/03/2011 9:10:29 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: petitfour

Meanwhile we’re being spammed hourly to stand up and march against Republican governors forced to balance state budgets.


22 posted on 03/03/2011 9:11:39 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Qbert

We have an armed invasion of millions of dirtbags into this country and our border guards are armed with beanerbags?

“But Terry’s brother, Kent Terry, said the other agents who were there that night told him that they were instructed to use the non-lethal beanbags first. It’s a policy that doesn’t make sense to Kent Terry.”

SUE THE LIVING HELL OUT OF THE OBAMA REGIME. THEN IMPEACH HIS FARGIN A$$.


23 posted on 03/03/2011 9:11:53 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their Moonbats)
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To: muddler
You are correct and the reason we are is because of the media (aka the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party). Until more conservatives follow Sarah Palin’s lead and start fighting back, it's going to stay that way.

Do you think any of the major networks or CNN will report this?

24 posted on 03/03/2011 9:12:31 AM PST by bwc2221
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To: Qbert

Our men on the USS Cole had no ammunition in their weapons either.


25 posted on 03/03/2011 9:15:31 AM PST by Carley (WISCONSIN STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: Qbert
Somebody has his blood on their hands. But they probably don't care about the little people anyways.
26 posted on 03/03/2011 9:15:37 AM PST by McGruff (Is it time to Drill Baby Drill yet?)
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To: max americana

And our troops are getting military medals for

Restraint

JUST DAMN DAMN DAMN


27 posted on 03/03/2011 9:16:49 AM PST by Carley (WISCONSIN STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: surfer

“How much you want to bet they wouldn’t be forced to use bean bags against the Tea Party?”

Spot on. I’m sure the lethal force authorization was signed by Ogabe on his way from his basketball game to his nightly White Hut party.


28 posted on 03/03/2011 9:17:28 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their Moonbats)
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To: Qbert
“You go up against a bandit crew that is carrying AKs, and you walk out there with guns loaded with beanbags – I don’t get it,”

Neither does anyone with a drop of sanity or patriotism.That pear-shaped lump of nothing Janet Napolitano sends these agents out there to confront ruthless killers and arms them with toys dreamt up in some cozy suburb by a liberal feelgood group. She then calls these families to offer condolences when the agents are killed. I wonder if she got a good price for her soul.
29 posted on 03/03/2011 9:18:23 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Qbert

I thought the agents were in an armored vehicle.


30 posted on 03/03/2011 9:18:25 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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31 posted on 03/03/2011 9:18:39 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: dragnet2

“Someone needs to pay hard for this...”

I hear ya.


32 posted on 03/03/2011 9:19:15 AM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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"Never take a beanbag to a gunfight."

This is outrageous! Those agents - who are risking their lives to protect and defend our borders - should be authorized to use whatever means necessary.

Regards,

33 posted on 03/03/2011 9:19:54 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: Qbert

I have been in the military and there have always been rules of engagement, but bean bags against an armed enemy. Did AG Holder come up with this?


34 posted on 03/03/2011 9:20:52 AM PST by OldEagle
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Last I heard, our Marines in Afghanistan are forbidden to fire unless fired upon as well. Maybe we should just dress our soldiers up like Big Bird too, so the enemy can spot them quicker.

FUBO, and all your rat-bastard commie/dem friends. You are traitors to the republic. We need real, armed soldiers on the border with standing orders to DEFEND our nation from invasion, with deadly force when necessary.


35 posted on 03/03/2011 9:21:01 AM PST by Mich Patriot (...politics is the second oldest profession...it bears a striking resemblance to the first." RReagan)
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To: Qbert

This kind of numb-nutted BS has to have come from someone who has never been fired upon......Same kind of BS Rules of Engagement that has gotten our Servicemen killed overseas......


36 posted on 03/03/2011 9:21:10 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: Qbert

Imagine your son at the last moments trying to save his life firing beanbags and these ruthless Mexican killers, as they dropped him dead....Laughing it up....


37 posted on 03/03/2011 9:22:38 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

We are being led by literally crazy people.


38 posted on 03/03/2011 9:25:38 AM PST by skeeter
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To: OldEagle

“Did AG Holder come up with this?”

Not sure- wouldn’t doubt it. I think Clownitano probably contributed heavily.

Btw, she just gave a speech saying the border is fine:

“During speech Monday at UTEP, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano insisted the U.S. border region is safer than most Americans believe, repeating what has become the mantra of the former Arizona governor.”

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/article_78474f9e-2f19-11e0-9e84-001cc4c03286.html


39 posted on 03/03/2011 9:29:09 AM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Qbert

Whoever instituted this policy is a murderer. . . .


40 posted on 03/03/2011 9:32:08 AM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: OldEagle

Update: I messed up- Napalitano’s speech was from February. I’m sure she hasn’t changed her views, though.


41 posted on 03/03/2011 9:33:34 AM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: windcliff; onedoug; raven92876

ping


42 posted on 03/03/2011 9:38:25 AM PST by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: Migraine

“When shooting Mexicans, you shouldn’t use beanbags anyway. It’s racist.”

Serious story but still funny.


43 posted on 03/03/2011 9:39:24 AM PST by Cyman
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To: Migraine
"When shooting Mexicans, you shouldn’t use beanbags anyway. It’s racist."

That is correct. They should use wetbags.

44 posted on 03/03/2011 9:40:26 AM PST by circlecity
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To: DCBryan1

Right you are DCB1. BATFE killed Agent Terry. I just wrote that a number of minutes ago in an email I sent. Boil away all the BS, and Agent Terry was killed by BATFE screwing around, and their scheme is blowing up in their faces as well. So damned sad Agent Terry had to die for a stupid scheme concocted by mentally impaired Leftist scum.


45 posted on 03/03/2011 9:42:45 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: surfer
How much you want to bet they wouldn’t be forced to use bean bags against the Tea Party?

That's a good point. The agencies (not BP) didn't have to use bean bags against the Americans they murdered at Waco, Ruby Ridge, all the other places.

46 posted on 03/03/2011 9:42:58 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Qbert

Janet Incompetano: “The system worked.”


47 posted on 03/03/2011 9:43:21 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Qbert

ping


48 posted on 03/03/2011 9:46:52 AM PST by dalebert
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To: Qbert

Folks will probably not believe this, but after the USS Cole was bombed off Yemen, the sailors who rushed topside with weapons were REFUSED ammo.

You probably won’t believe that the reason was because the Captain wished to AVOID AN ACCIDENT.

That sounds unbelievable, right?

It’s also true that the USMC guards on duty in front of the HQ in Beirut, Lebanon during the Reagan years also had NO AMMO in their rifels, and that Hezbollah knew that.


49 posted on 03/03/2011 9:48:40 AM PST by gaijin
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To: circlecity

Or taco tasers.


50 posted on 03/03/2011 9:52:28 AM PST by karnage
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