Posted on 03/03/2011 7:19:13 PM PST by jamese777
Some Georgia lawmakers couldn’t backpedal fast enough Thursday on a “birther” bill supported earlier this week by a majority of House members.
First to block out his name with a heavy black marker on House Bill 401 was John Meadows, chairman of the powerful House Rules Committee.
A steady stream of legislators followed all day. By 5 p.m., at least 23 of the original 93 backers were gone from a proposal requiring presidential and vice presidential candidates prove they were born in the United States. Among them was the bill's lone Democratic supporter, Glenn Baker of Jonesboro.
Seventy sponsors is still a sizable chunk of the 180-member chamber, but is an abrupt about-face from just 48 hours before. Why?
“We’ve got state problems we’ve got to take care of,” said Meadows, R-Calhoun, who said he heard complaints from constituents.
Many of those removing their names said they hadn’t read the bill and disagreed with how far it goes in making a candidate prove eligibility. Others simply said they’d been told to take their names off but declined to say by whom.
(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...
The trouble is that the only people who can file criminal charges against people like Pelosi are political appointees who don’t want to rock the boat, or elected officials who need the smile of the media (or so they think). Part of the bigger problem we’re dealing with on the eligibility issue is something much more far-reaching and serious: the inability of the people to get justice from law enforcement. It’s like the political class gets a get-out-of-jail-free card, because only their cronies have the authority to file criminal charges.
Any bills that are passed really need to have a way for a NORMAL PERSON to initiate legal action. And that’s not just true for the eligibility issue, but for everything. What would happen if a normal person could sue government officials who change the locks on buildings in order to keep the voters’ representative from being able to participate? What would happen if citizens of Wisconsin could sue their absent legislators for work those legislators are being paid to do but refuse to do?
The political class is way too comfy, knowing that the people can’t do anything to hold them accountable to the law between elections. That’s the only way we get the crap sandwiches shoved down our throats like we’ve had for the last 2 years.
Regarding the “different standards”, that wouldn’t be a basis for throwing out the state laws because, unlike immigration, the federal government has no jurisdiction over state Presidential elections. The Constitution specifically gives the states the responsibility and authority to choose their own electoral voters. The states don’t violate the US Constitution simply by having their own standards, as long as those standards are compliant with the Constitution.
The fact remains that there are TWO bills floating about the Georgia statehouse, and that reconciliation IS to take place by committee. That much can be gleaned from the posted article.
As far as being a leftist shill goes, there is no need for such a role. The blatant insincerity of the official GOP in its failure to take on this fight makes it redundant. You want shills, talk to your Republican Congressman.
There is a very large element of dumb show in these "state eligibility" laws. The AG or the Sec of State of ANY state, already has the power to keep ANY candidate off ANY state ballot, pending the presentation of documentary proof of eligibility. They then have the power, right now, whether to accept that documentation or not, forcing the issue to court with the prospective candidate as plaintiff.
So state eligibility laws (none of which has been passed to date) would have the effect of forcing state officials to do their jobs. Well, I suppose that would be an improvement of sorts, but at the cost of adding another layer of litigation by those who do not want to do their jobs.
These endless circular discussions can only be ended with SCOTUS rulings: Is a "Native" a "Natural?" What then... exactly ... is a "Natural Born Citizen?" Next question: What do we do when we find out that the man, whose very name is an open question, living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue isn't?
lol. Thanks for the CPR. I’m breathing much easier. lol
I say forget the BC. I want to know one thing:did Barak (last name) apply to Columbia as a US resident or foreign student?
I agree with you.
I've been saying this for the best part of two years. If the lazy fraud's "education" records were published, the Brilliant One would collapse right in front of our eyes. 0b0z0's ego wouldn't take it and he might harm himself!
Too many things constituting a rising tide that demands explanation of an array of hidden records, which 0h0m0llah couldn't possibly do because of the non-existent records, terrible grades, fraudulent SS #s, etc.
Bottom line, the ignorant lying child won't dare run!
This is not a battle that has to be fought on one field only. I would bet my house that there is disastrous—as in, career-wrecking disaster—information on Obama’s original birth records (whatever they are). Forcing him to reveal what he’s been hiding doesn’t damage any other line of attack; it only strengthens our hand overall.
It does appear that you and I disagree on this, however. How about we just leave it at that? I have become convinced over time that eligibility laws are a good front on which to wage one aspect of the battle. You think otherwise. Fine. I’ve read your arguments, and find them unconvincing. Rather than waste any more of your time, or vice versa, let’s just leave it at that. Deal?
Others simply said they’d been told to take their names off but declined to say by whom.
Is this a typical strong-armed communist dictatorship in Georgia of all places?
Did you hear anything from the grapevine?
Their easiest way out this week, if they are not going to reject the matter entirely, is to remand it to a lower court for discovery. That is, they could decide in the interests of political stability, to slow this down to allow Soetoro/Obama to finish the term.
Although far from a glorious victory, that would at least clarify "Natural Born Citizenship" for future candidacies. It also would do much to claim the "public opinion," so important to many in the fight. Although, in my opinion, Soetoro/Obama's constituency is so strong that "public opinion," actually means little to him or his administration.
Vinson's ultimatum is also going to drive Obamacare to the SCOTUS, or at least to the 11th Circuit and then to the SCOTUS. This is one heck of a key week in constitutional history.
Not only is that a deal, but when one state passes your desired law, you get a free round at the VFW in Livermore Falls.
It’s most likely journalistic malpractice by the Atlanta Urinal and Constipation. It appears that only a grand total of 4 backed off, hardly significant when they had over 90 to begin with. I did send an email to my friend. I may not hear back from him for a while, but I expect he will eventually reply. If anybody knows what’s really going on—or how to find out—it’s him. If, and hopefully when, he answers, I’ll be sure to ping you.
Thanks for the offer! Sounds like fun. Let’s hope I can at least collect in absentia. ;)
And Steele was already having fundraising problems. As a vote of “no-confidence” of his leadership, donors were bypassing the RNC and sending money directly to candidates, or to the Rove and/or Dick Morris fundraising groups.
Just my opinion, but I believe had Steele, as the head of the RNC, decided to embrace birtherism, he would have been forced to resign in less than 24 hours.
The ‘birther’ bill and an image of second thoughts - Jim Galloway - AJC
Word of House Speaker David Ralston’s coolness toward the legislation spread through the Capitol on Wednesday. Those concerned with the Port of Savannah made their opinions known.
By the end of Thursday, at least 23 House members had changed their minds, according to my AJC colleague April Hunt – and the above image of blotted out, former supporters
Columbia: How he got there:
(1) He was passed by his mentor at Occidental, Lawrence Goldyn, an open communist and gay activist (no I ain't makin' that up) to Bill Ayers.
(2)Bill Ayers had a heavy Columbia connection.
(3)Admission was a snap because he walked in off the street and applied to Columbia School of General Studies. Put it this way. My Irish Setter could have been accepted at General Studies, and he was never housebroken, providing the tuition check didn't bounce.
(4)You can get a degree from Columbia University by completing required course work at General Studies. Your Bachelors Degree diploma will say "Columbia College."
www.gs.columbia.edu
We have no clue what he actually studied at Columbia. Or who paid. GS is very big on seminars for leftists who are promptly praised for Marxist statements. But the reason no one there seems to remember him is most likely the General Studies thing. General Studies people didn't mix with the Ivy Leaguers from the "real" Columbia, except very rarely in seminars open to both, which were and still are many.
So that's the guy's Columbia story. Nice. Doesn't tell us a damn thing, except maybe that he knew Bill Ayers a lot longer than he cares to admit. And if you have plenty of money and a kid who wants an Ivy League degree but has lousy SATs, low HS or Jr. Coll grades, and has good bullshiite, sign him up at Columbia General Studies!
We deliver!
BHO changed his law status from active to retired. The Dems learned from what happened to Bill Clinton:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_clinton#Law_license_suspension
Also from the article: “Hawaiian birth records and documentation revealed by Obama confirm the president was born in the United States.”
B0 “revealed” them? They must be talking about that thing that is on the internet. Even the hippie Hawaiian governor hasn’t seen the original BUT he told us it was written down in the archives (whatever the heck that means). And what about this “documentation”? Like his transcripts, passport info, etc.? Who’s seen them? Anyone?
We do know from the Illinois Bar Application once available on line, that Barry flat out lied about ever having used another name (alias), neglected to mention drug use, and traffic tickets. I guess he forgot to read his "autobiography."
Perhaps Bill Ayers forgot to send him a copy? The more you know, the less you know. As in "WhoTF is this guy?"
How come everyone but us on FR, knows the elephant in the room reason why Barry Soetoro is ineligible, which is:
He is a dual citizen.
Doesn’t matter where he was born. Well it can matter, if he was born outside the USA, but the dual citizen thing, gets him out of eligibility all by itself.
He must just be so smug, laughing at the America, holding out the BC thing as an issue to defend, when the obvious issue that does him in, if our country was still educated, is that his purported sperm donor was a british subject. He knows America as a whole has been stupified by public schools.
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