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New York Plans Gun Registration
Wham1180 ^ | 03/03/11 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 03/04/2011 9:43:58 AM PST by Sammy67

First they came for our bicycles.

Now they’ve come for our guns.

One day after word leaked of a New York State plan to require license plates and annual fees for bicycles, information has gotten out about pending legislation that would register and attach a fee to every firearm in the state.

Already one of the most anti-gun states in the country, New York’s move would all but nullify the Second Amendment.

At issue is Senate Bill 2994, which is linked in its entirety at the bottom of this column. It would require every gun owner in the state to make a list of their firearms, to include make, description and serial number, and file that list with the county clerk.

Further, gun owners would have to specify where in their homes each of their firearms were stored when not in use.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: amendment; banglist; civilrights; constitution; firearms; government; guns; hunting; law; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkstate; ny; nyc; nysenate; politics; registration; second; senatebill2994

1 posted on 03/04/2011 9:44:04 AM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

If the people of the state of NY allow this to happen, then they deserve it.


2 posted on 03/04/2011 9:50:40 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Sammy67

BIG BROTHER lives in NY!!!


3 posted on 03/04/2011 9:50:52 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (I see a dark cloud coming over the horizon, and its reminiscent of 1939.)
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To: Sammy67
Post-Heller and McDonald, all this stuff really does need to get shaken out through the legal process.

Fact is that before Heller and McDonald, New York state could have passed legislation like this anyway. Yet, now that the 2nd Amendment is recognized as an individual Constitutional right incorporated to some degree under the 14th Amendment, there ought to be lots of interested parties who've got nothing at all to do with guns who will be compelled to join the RKBA side in challenging legislatures' proposals to fees and taxes on rights. So many entities have a lot to lose.

Let New York propose and pass laws like these, and let them fail in court. Let them push the issue all the way to the US Supreme Court. We'll see who prevails.

4 posted on 03/04/2011 9:51:03 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Sammy67
specify where in their homes each of their firearms were stored when not in use.

You forgot to add: owner must also post when he plans on being out of the home and the combination to any gun safe, along with directions to the home for interested parties

5 posted on 03/04/2011 9:52:24 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Sammy67

Any chance it will pass?


6 posted on 03/04/2011 9:52:33 AM PST by BBell
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To: Sammy67

I lost all of my guns in a boating accident.


7 posted on 03/04/2011 9:54:32 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: BBell

The dems from NYC are pushing hard for passage.


8 posted on 03/04/2011 9:58:34 AM PST by Sammy67
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To: sean327
The idiot sheeple in New York City and some of the other larger cities will push for this. Just recently the leftist Dem AG of Illinois issued an opinion that the names of gun-owners should be made public.

Judge Napolitano on FOX news this morning pretty much devastated her opinion, but a State Court in Illinois will be deciding.

Make no mistake about it, we are the victims of a Kulturkampf by the leftist Bolsheviks in America. An informed and armed electorate is their worst nightmare and want to destroy that concept so they institute a statist government with no resistance.

9 posted on 03/04/2011 10:03:13 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: Sammy67

Dear Lord! .... NY: people leaving because of the
taxes and the government; more will
surely move over a border if this insanity
ever passes.

Can we, as Freepers and representitives of
Conservative America, designate the states
we want and encourage like-minded people
to move there? I think it could work!

Well... back to my room to take the rest of my meds....
;)


10 posted on 03/04/2011 10:03:38 AM PST by CaptainPhilFan
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To: sean327

The People of New York may very well have nothing to say about it. Having lived in California, I know first hand that the majority of the folks there are Not hard left. It’s the crooked Dem Party Machinery running Frisco, LA and San Diego who continually run the state into the ground regardless of what the folks outside those cities want.

What they got for voting Against the machine in one election a decade ago in San Francisco, was next day discovery of ballot boxes floating in the bay.


11 posted on 03/04/2011 10:04:30 AM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Sammy67

Look at what’s going on in IL now. They want to publish the list of gun owners and what they have registered.

Fight gun registration.


12 posted on 03/04/2011 10:06:32 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: BuffaloJack

“I lost all of my guns in a boating accident.”

Yes, the mother ship was here last week and took mine.


13 posted on 03/04/2011 10:18:20 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: CaptainPhilFan

While a laudable sentiment its misguided. Youre doing your state a tremendous disservice by inviting such people in. I think they must be forced to stay in the cesspool they created. They wanted this sort of thing so badly now let them enjoy the fruits of the labor. What really happens is they ruin your state just like the one they’re escaping. They never realize it was their doing which caused the problems, its always someone else.


14 posted on 03/04/2011 10:32:43 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Sammy67

Take Our Poll
Should the names of people with FOID cards be public?

Yes

No

Not sure

http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/news/4095620-418/should-gun-owners-names-be-released-to-public.html


15 posted on 03/04/2011 10:42:19 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Sammy67

See this post:

“If you try to take away our firearms, we will kill you”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2683593/posts


16 posted on 03/04/2011 10:45:45 AM PST by bopdowah ("Shove it down our throats in 2010 & we'll shove it up your ass in 2012!')
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To: Sammy67
......a list of their firearms, to include make, description and serial number, and file that list with the county clerk.......

And, I'm afraid that I'd just have to file that under "no effing way in Cowboy Hell!"

17 posted on 03/04/2011 10:48:26 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Sammy67
MASSIVE NONCOMPLIANCE.

Come on people. Have some backbone...

18 posted on 03/04/2011 10:49:43 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Sammy67

NY should split into 2 states NY and NNY (aka ‘Upstate’) - everyone east of the Hudson including *all* of Albany area can get their blue state, NYC style laws and taxes. Everyone west of the Hudson gets real constitutional laws and freedom we deserve.

The rest of the state has to pay so much (financially and freedoms) because what goes on ‘down state’


19 posted on 03/04/2011 10:51:57 AM PST by PissAndVinegar
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To: Sammy67
If this passes, just like good citizens, we all need to register “guns” . In fact I think I might get a couple hundred of the registration forms and register all kinds of guns, under random addresses, random serial numbers etc. If a few thousand people did likewise, the registration database would quickly be rendered useless.
20 posted on 03/04/2011 10:53:46 AM PST by apillar
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To: apillar

Yeah, but you will have to pay an annual registration fee. I think it’s $100 per gun.


21 posted on 03/04/2011 11:04:23 AM PST by catman67
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Not my gun ~ somebody else's.

Fur Shur, never get caught with your own firearm in NY.

22 posted on 03/04/2011 11:05:47 AM PST by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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To: PissAndVinegar

Sorry. The bill says an initial fee of $35 per gun and an annual renewal fee of $10 per gun.


23 posted on 03/04/2011 11:06:38 AM PST by catman67
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To: catman67

>Yeah, but you will have to pay an annual registration fee. I think it’s $100 per gun.<

first time registration $25.00 per gun then $10.00 per gun every year thereafter. UTTER BS way for NYS to grab more money from the people.


24 posted on 03/04/2011 11:39:41 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: catman67

Pay the fee in lead.


25 posted on 03/04/2011 11:54:04 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Sammy67

So it will be an NYC vs. The rest of the state again.


26 posted on 03/04/2011 1:07:55 PM PST by BBell
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To: catman67

$10


27 posted on 03/04/2011 1:40:53 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Sammy67
The northeast is gone.

I say that sitting in Massachusetts.

28 posted on 03/04/2011 1:52:55 PM PST by Celtic Cross
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To: Munz; catman67
[Munz] first time registration $25.00 per gun then $10.00 per gun every year thereafter.

That's the sucker's intro rate. Anybody think it'll stay at that, when Chuckie and the grabbers think they've got the gun owners on the run?

Like the pukes at Sulzberger's shop like to say, "first you establish the 'principle' ....." Then you shove it up their *ss and talk sagely about policy and wisdom.

29 posted on 03/05/2011 8:22:07 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: apillar

I like your idea. Scuzz up their d/b with bad info. Excellent!


30 posted on 03/05/2011 8:25:08 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: BuffaloJack
I lost all of my guns in a boating accident.

The bottoms of vast lakes in Canada were littered with fine autoloader shotguns and sidearms, after the Canadian LeftRatsheviks passed their KGB gun law ..... gun owners all over Canada got boatman's butterfingers. I'm sure that will happen on New York's lakes, too.

31 posted on 03/05/2011 8:30:28 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

No doubt that they will raise it every time they get a chance.
they are driving people from new york faster than if we had that high speed rail

They pull that crap, on top of everything else. It is time for me to convince the Mrs it is time to move


32 posted on 03/05/2011 12:28:22 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: All; sean327

“If the people of the state of NY allow this to happen, then they deserve it.”

Let’s all contact our favorite radio talk show host that airs in NY.


33 posted on 03/05/2011 11:08:54 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: All

If you don’t own a gun, you should be angry, and WORRIED, too, because criminals will KNOW you don’t have a gun to protect yourself.

Read the entire story.


34 posted on 03/05/2011 11:30:54 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: All

“Gun owners know that criminals will never register their illegally possessed guns and, in fact, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Haynes v. U.S. (309 U.S. 85 (1968)) that since felons are prohibited from owning firearms, compelling them to register their guns would violate their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination.”

snip http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6312


35 posted on 03/06/2011 12:20:23 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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