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John Galt vs. Bamtrak ( high-speed rail )
wsj ^ | MARCH 4, 2011. | JAMES TARANTO

Posted on 03/04/2011 2:03:48 PM PST by george76

"U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announced Friday that $2.4 billion in high-speed rail funding intended for Florida will be sent to other states after the state Supreme Court upheld Gov. Rick Scott's decision to reject the money..."

Why was the federal government trying to force this boondoggle on the Sunshine State? ... Who is John Galt?

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"Atlas Shrugged" is a lengthy parable about individualism and freedom. Set in the not-too-distant future, it depicts an America whose economy is falling apart under the weight of an overweening government run entirely by people with approximately the integrity, cognitive ability and humility of a New York Times editorialist.

It is also, in part, a story about trains. Dagny Taggart, heroine of "Atlas Shrugged," is a hard-driving executive at Taggart Transcontinental Railroad. She teams up with Hank Rearden, a steel magnate who has developed a new supermetal, to build the John Galt Line, a high-speed track through Colorado. They encounter political obstacles every step of the way.

Meanwhile, great industrialists are mysteriously disappearing. John Galt, whoever he is, seems to have something to do with it, but precisely what is left for the sequels to explain. Also unexplained in Part I is the significance of an abandoned motor that Dagny and Hank find in an abandoned Wisconsin factory. It is amazingly innovative, an engine that literally runs on air.

There is one big difference between the book and the movie: While the former is set in a vague "day after tomorrow," the latter has a specific timeline: Part I begins in September 2016 and runs through the summer of 2017. Which is an odd setting for a drama about railroads, "a technology that was the future two centuries ago," as Will observes.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: atlasshrugged; boondoggle; florida; galt; hankrearden; highspeedrail; johngalt; johngaltline; rail; scott; trains; willie

1 posted on 03/04/2011 2:03:50 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Why are all the Crats so all in on this goofy crap?


2 posted on 03/04/2011 2:10:33 PM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: george76
"U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announced Friday that $2.4 billion in high-speed rail funding intended for Florida will be sent to other states after the state Supreme Court upheld Gov. Rick Scott's decision to reject the money..."

WHY?

3 posted on 03/04/2011 2:11:40 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: george76

Who is John Galt?


4 posted on 03/04/2011 2:12:56 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: screaminsunshine

High Speed to Insolvency-Why liberals love trains.
(George Will)

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/02/27/high-speed-to-insolvency.html

To progressives, the best thing about railroads is that people riding them are not in automobiles, which are subversive of the deference on which progressivism depends. Automobiles go hither and yon, wherever and whenever the driver desires, without timetables. Automobiles encourage people to think they—unsupervised, untutored, and unscripted—are masters of their fates. The automobile encourages people in delusions of adequacy, which make them resistant to government by experts who know what choices people should make.

Time was, the progressive cry was “Workers of the world unite!” or “Power to the people!” Now it is less resonant: “All aboard!”


5 posted on 03/04/2011 2:14:08 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: george76

One of the real problems with “high speed rail” is that it is already outdated. Any technology or program that a government adopts is by its nature going to be outdated, simply because governments are not creative (that’s not their job), they are reactive.

Spending billions of dollars to construct an entirely new infrastructure for an already outdated technology is beyond ridiculous.

I’m very much in favor of rail transit, which should receive the same huge amount of money as that received by highways and auto infrastructure, but it’s got to be useful transit. In other words, it has to go to places where people actually want to go and it has to get there in about the same time or less that it would take to drive.

Standard commuter rail using existing track would probably get you from one major population point to another in Florida in less time than it takes to drive (considering the level of congestion in places like Orlando, Tampa and Jacksonville) and at about the same public cost as highways. So revive passenger rail...for which the track and infrastructure already exist.

But what the Feds really want is the insane boondoggle of investing billions in an outdated technology. We’ll probably have a much faster rail-less technology within the next 10 years, unless Obama totally kills our economy and R/D, and a combination of private/public investors could actually make a profit on it. But if we keep putting only public money into it, we’ll have the Post Office: hostile employees, no market response, etc.


6 posted on 03/04/2011 2:15:55 PM PST by livius
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To: WOBBLY BOB

[ Time was, the progressive cry was “Workers of the world unite!” or “Power to the people!” Now it is less resonant: “All aboard!” ]

Time was, the progressive cry was “Workers of the world unite!” or “Power to the people!” Now it is the more sinister: “All aboard! Or Else!”


7 posted on 03/04/2011 2:18:27 PM PST by GraceG
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To: george76

Doesn’t anyone advocating this boondoogle realize that it is just a juicy target for terrorists that is much easier to access than an airliner? And just as soon as there is an attack, what other freedoms must we lose in the interests of public safety?


8 posted on 03/04/2011 2:23:46 PM PST by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: screaminsunshine

High speed rail and such produces government money -—from us taxpayers— for government unions who then donate campaign cash for the DUmmies


9 posted on 03/04/2011 2:24:14 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I finished “Atlas Shrugged” a few weeks ago. It is uncanny how a story of absurdity was being played out in the real world on the television each night as I read another chapter.

The author certainly understood the conflict between individual freedom and accomplishment and the collective dumbing down that stifles initiative and innovation.

Every Freeper should read that book.


10 posted on 03/04/2011 2:26:31 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: LachlanMinnesota; All

The movie Atlas Shrugged will open april 15th (tax day)The trailer is on youtube. Check it out.


11 posted on 03/04/2011 2:46:11 PM PST by painter (No wonder democrats don't mind taxes.THEY DON'T PAY THEM !)
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To: george76

I guess in this analogy, Willie Green would be a perfect Wesley Mouch (Wee Wee Willie probably thinks Mouch is the hero of the story).


12 posted on 03/04/2011 3:21:10 PM PST by mnehring
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To: george76

“...in an abandoned Wisconsin factory. It is amazingly innovative, an engine that literally runs on air. “

BUT....

It only runs on our WI air.

Must be the high methane concentration. Although, since the Flee Party fled south and the protesters have thinned, the air is much less fertile.


13 posted on 03/04/2011 3:23:40 PM PST by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: Roccus

The short answer: Because he can!


14 posted on 03/04/2011 3:29:10 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: george76

They are great money laundering boondoggles for unions.

Pray for America


15 posted on 03/04/2011 3:35:46 PM PST by bray (Sarah Palin can see the White House from her Blackberry)
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To: Paladin2
Who is John Galt?

He was banned years ago.

16 posted on 03/04/2011 3:45:10 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
FReeper Book Club: Introduction to Atlas Shrugged
Part I, Chapter I: The Theme
Part I, Chapter II: The Chain
Part I, Chapter III: The Top and the Bottom
Part I, Chapter IV: The Immovable Movers
Part I, Chapter V: The Climax of the d’Anconias
Part I, Chapter VI: The Non-Commercial
Part I, Chapter VII: The Exploiters and the Exploited
Part I, Chapter VIII: The John Galt Line
Part I, Chapter IX: The Sacred and the Profane
Part I, Chapter X: Wyatt’s Torch
Part II, Chapter I: The Man Who Belonged on Earth
Part II, Chapter II: The Aristocracy of Pull
Part II, Chapter III: White Blackmail
Part II, Chapter IV: The Sanction of the Victim
Part II, Chapter V: Account Overdrawn
Part II, Chapter VI: Miracle Metal
Part II, Chapter VII: The Moratorium on Brains
Part II, Chapter VIII: By Our Love
Part II, Chapter IX: The Face Without Pain or Fear or Guilt
Part II, Chapter X: The Sign of the Dollar
Part III, Chapter I: Atlantis
Part III, Chapter II: The Utopia of Greed
Part III, Chapter III: Anti-Greed
Part III, Chapter IV: Anti-Life
Part III, Chapter V: Their Brothers’ Keepers
Part III, Chapter VI: The Concerto of Deliverance
Part III, Chapter VII: “This is John Galt Speaking”
Part III, Chapter VIII: The Egoist
Part III, Chapter IX: The Generator
Part III, Chapter X: In the Name of the Best Within Us
Coda: Ten Years After
Afterword and Suggested Reading
17 posted on 03/04/2011 3:47:23 PM PST by Publius
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To: Publius

Excellent list for Atlas Shrugged! Thanks.


18 posted on 03/04/2011 3:51:39 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Roccus

Why? Because Democrats are hell-bent on spending this borrowed money.


19 posted on 03/04/2011 3:52:15 PM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Publius
I think 0bambi had his teleprompter loaded with extracts from the “dark side” of Atlas Shrugged.
20 posted on 03/04/2011 3:55:56 PM PST by spokeshave (WTF....the only thing 0bambi's investments will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy.)
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To: screaminsunshine

This is happening because China is to be the supplier for the trains. America has corrupt politicians who work for Chinese interests, or the globalist interest instead of protecting individual rights and liberties, as they are supposed to do.

Diane Feinstein is an excellent example of this corruption but PLENTY of republicans are just as corrupt. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed an MOU with China for a train that will go nowhere — a 60 mile stretch in water bankrupt central California— before leaving office.

Cornyn, Lugar and many others have worked for YEARS to give over our transporation infrastructure to foreign interests including Mexico, China and Spain.

These days, any money not going to China, will go to India (annointed by the globalists for favoristic treatment because of the billion plus population). It’s one reason why they loathe America, try as they may they’ve only managed to get our population to 300 plus million mostly due to illegal immigration.


21 posted on 03/04/2011 4:01:03 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: george76
SARAH ON HIGH SPEED RAIL... :

"....as we struggle to merely service our unsustainable debt, the only thing this investment will get us is a

Bullet Train to Bankruptcy."


22 posted on 03/04/2011 4:14:42 PM PST by flat
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To: jdub

Doesn’t anyone advocating this boondoogle realize that it is just a juicy target for terrorists that is much easier to access than an airliner? And just as soon as there is an attack, what other freedoms must we lose in the interests of public safety?

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You don’t need a terrorist attack ,, rail distorts in the heat ,, especially long pieces of welded rail... it causes many derailments ... ask Amtrak about that .. a bullet train requires perfect track and to make ridership numbers it would have to make too many stops losing the speed advantage..


23 posted on 03/04/2011 4:50:04 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: screaminsunshine

because its not their money.

Because they know that trains mean union votes and never ending subsidies for them to spend. Justifying more administrative bureaucrats


24 posted on 03/04/2011 4:55:44 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL
because it's not their money. Well yes, that's true, but it's not all federal dollars, either. The unions are pushing hard for the construction of a coal terminal in our county, and I mean real hard, harder than for Obamacare. Goldman Sachs, Obama's favorite investment firm is backing the project with money.
25 posted on 03/04/2011 5:03:49 PM PST by Eva
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To: Eva

Because if the government backs it, its a sure winner with OPM


26 posted on 03/04/2011 5:06:32 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Publius

That is one of those books that I always “meant to read”, but never got around to ...until just recently. I finally determined to read the dang thing all the way through. It was not as hard as I had supposed. I enjoyed it, if one can enjoy a book that spells out so clearly why America is falling apart. It is indeed prophetic.


27 posted on 03/04/2011 5:44:21 PM PST by WVNan
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To: LachlanMinnesota

You may need to read it again to get the full effect (took me 3 read-throughs). Rand has seen the same pattern in Soviet Russia and saw the same patterns developing in the US, even in the 1940’s. You should read the other Rand novels.

I recommend:

The Fountainhead : Though everyone references Atlas Shrugged, I personally feel that The Fountainhead provides a clearer picture of HOW and WHY the Left corrupts society. It shows how the Progressive corrupts the Press and uses it to creates chaos, and how good people are corrupted. She shows how even in the 20’s and 30’s the Left corrupts even good government plans to its own ends. Why do they do it? They are evil. They seek to collect souls. Sounds silly, but this is coming from the atheist Rand. And it doesn’t take much to corrupt the system. Just a little bit of smooth-talking and time.

We The Living : What life was like in Soviet Russia just after the Revolution. Describes how it was impossible to get a job unless you joined a Union. Shades of what the Unions want in the US, today. Describes the destruction of the “rich” and the corruption that followed. Even the Party faithful can’t stand it after a while.

Anthem : Short novela. Describes the final nightmare world envisioned by the main evil character in The Fountainhead. IMO, this is the world Leftists, enviro-freaks and Agenda 21 supporters want: depopulated, totalitarian, agrarian, and impoverished. The complete destruction of the self for the collective.


28 posted on 03/04/2011 5:55:23 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: musicman

BFLR


29 posted on 03/04/2011 6:30:35 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Clock King

I recommend The Fountainhead
Was also a movie stared Gary Cooper..
for satire on this subject
http://www.theusmat.com/natldesksatire.htm


30 posted on 03/04/2011 6:57:06 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: Neidermeyer

You bet. Middle of summer in FL and both freight and passenger trains have to slow down due to rail expansion. Good observation. Now the Hi speed rail people will tell you they have special rails, concrete and rail fasteners that are not spikes into wood that pull out. But metal still responds to heat... and cold too. That’s why they pitch Mag Lev— magnum expensive, levitatingly bankrupting.


31 posted on 03/04/2011 8:36:51 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Clock King

We the Living also was reflected in FDR new deal. If you weren’t a Democrat you did not get a make work job. It was that simple... hence coining the phrase “Nice work if you can get it” Much of obamanomics is predicated on the gubmint job that is unionized. If we don’t break this we are doomed, just as Jefferson observed we would be if “the people ever are able to vote themselves money”. We the Living is a textbook case of socialism’s nightmare.


32 posted on 03/04/2011 8:40:12 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Paladin2

I am almost done reading Atlas Shrugged. I have been stunned at some of the parallels in the book with how our society operates.

If you haven’t read it, I would highly recommend it.


33 posted on 03/04/2011 10:18:47 PM PST by proudpapa
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To: george76

“This is John Galt Speaking.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00xStn_jXKo&feature=related


34 posted on 03/05/2011 6:55:26 AM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: screaminsunshine
Socialists have always had a thing for trains.



35 posted on 03/05/2011 7:37:46 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: screaminsunshine
Why are all the Crats so all in on this goofy crap?

Can't admit Obama plan is folly, union jobs = union contributions, sweetheart deals made when they were in power, crony capitalism, etc.

36 posted on 03/06/2011 11:09:38 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: livius
I’m very much in favor of rail transit, which should receive the same huge amount of money as that received by highways and auto infrastructure, but it’s got to be useful transit. In other words, it has to go to places where people actually want to go and it has to get there in about the same time or less that it would take to drive.

Standard commuter rail using existing track would probably get you from one major population point to another in Florida in less time than it takes to drive (considering the level of congestion in places like Orlando, Tampa and Jacksonville) and at about the same public cost as highways. So revive passenger rail...for which the track and infrastructure already exist.

Good argument. Too often people go to extremes on this. George Will is a pretty good example. Here he sounds more like Ann Coulter than his usual mushy self:

Time was, the progressive cry was "Workers of the world unite!" or "Power to the people!" Now it is less resonant: "All aboard!"

Treating rail as some battle of ideologies rather than a pragmatic question of what works is a way to antagonize a lot of good people.

If the market's not there for high speed rail, if regular trains can do the job, if government gets in the way of what actually works in rail transportation, why borrow the money build such a massive project?

37 posted on 03/06/2011 11:25:41 AM PST by x
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