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Illinois State Senator Barack Obama says childhood in Kenya
nobarack08 ^ | Mar 5, 2011 | nobarack08

Posted on 03/04/2011 5:18:31 PM PST by syc1959

In Sept 2006 Illinois State Senator Obama, while on an international trip was interviewed by Lynn Sweet of the Sun-Times.

Obama: Africa lessons; look ahead. En route back to U.S. By Lynn Sweet on September 3, 2006 8:40 AM |

N’DJAMENA, Chad–Sen. Barack Obama departed this capital city Sunday morning, en route on an Army military aircraft to Frankfort, Germany to catch a commercial flight back to the United States

Obama’s next big international journey will be in 2007 –he’s looking at China, India and Indonesia, “where ironicall I actually have more of a childhood than I do in Kenya.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wp.me ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: africa; certifigate; foreigner; illegal; kenyanbornmuzzie; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Misterioso

“...and Indonesia, ‘where ironically I actually have more of a childhood than I do in Kenya.’”

Parsing the statement:

(a) He spent some portion of his childhood in Indonesia...

(b) Using the word “more”: “more” describes his amount of childhood time in Indonesia as a comparison to childhood time in Kenya...

(c) The “more” comparison indicates he spent some portion of his childhood in Kenya...

(d) It is known he was with his mother in Seattle, WA from fall 1961 until after Senior’s departure for Harvard in 1962...

(e) It is known he was enrolled in kindergarten in Honolulu in 1966...

(f) It is known he was taken by his mother to Indonesia, to join her husband Lolo Soetoro there, in appx. Oct. 1967...

(g) It is known he returned to Hawaii in summer of 1970 to live with his grandparents...

(h) It is known Senior visited the family in Dec. 1970, staying in Hawaii for a month...

(i) It is presumed Barry lived in Honolulu with his grandparents, continuously - except for a period of time with his mother when she and the half-sister also lived in Honolulu - from 1970 until he left for college in 1979...

(j) His father, Obie Senior, didn’t return to Kenya until after his 2-year master’s degree stint at Harvard: 1962-1964.

(k) His enrollment in kindergarten in Honolulu was 1966...

(l) That portion of his childhood spent in Indonesia was just shy of 3 years: appx. 10/67 - appx. 8/70...

(m) Deduction: whatever length of time it was that he “...had less of a childhood in Kenya than he had in Indonesia” would - by default - have to have been during the time frame between leaving Seattle in 1962 and starting kindergarten in Honolulu in fall 1966. Specifically, if he had more of a childhood in Indonesia than he did in Kenya, his time in Kenya would have been [for - probably considerably - less than the Indonesian 3 years] during the time between summer 1964 [father’s return to Kenya from US] and fall 1966.

The problem with Barry’s indicating/saying he spent any of his childhood in Kenya is the Kenyan relatives. A portion of them insist he was born there - that they witnessed his birth there. Why is it then that none of them have mentioned him having [a portion of] “...a childhood...” in Kenya? The statement he made to Lynn Sweet certainly does sound like he pointedly said he had spent some time of his childhood in Kenya - so when was it? We break down the known facts and come up with the only time “available” for him to have had some of his childhood in Kenya would be some undetermined period of time when he was between the ages of 3 years [father’s 1964 return to Kenya], and 5 years [kindergarten - Honolulu]. Yet none of those Kenyan relatives has said anything about him having been in Kenya while a “kid” - no mention of him living there, or of him even visiting. Nada. Zip. So one could therefore reasonably conclude that based upon what Barry’s Kenyan relatives purport to “know”, the only time he could have had less of a childhood in Kenya than he had in Indonesia - is when the relatives say he was born.

Yeah, yeah - Kenyan birth - nonsense. I’ve never given it serious thought, much less credibility.

Freud gave us one good thing: awareness of the “slip”, which calls our attention to hidden desires, or perhaps truths. With that knowledge, we’re compelled to ask the one very obvious question: At the mention of Indonesia in his conversation with journalist Lynn Sweet, why in hell did Barry’s mind jump from Indonesia to a childhood in Kenya??

How does his use of “ironically” strike others here? I looked it up, to give consideration to his context:

ironical: having the quality of irony; directly opposite to what is or might be expected.

It seems he was being “perfectly clear”: he was saying it would be expected for him to have had more of his childhood in Kenya than in Indonesia.

Well, Barry - why would it be expected for you to have had more of a childhood in Kenya than in Indonesia if you were born in Honolulu, Hawaii, United States of America? You know - Hawaii - where there doesn’t seem to be a long form birth certificate for you?


22 posted on 03/04/2011 10:35:32 PM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture.))
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To: GGMac

Thanks for the parsin’ parson. :•) Well done.


23 posted on 03/04/2011 11:04:03 PM PST by Misterioso (The noble soul has reverence for itself. - Nietszche)
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To: Technical Editor
But he’s such a sloppy speaker that it’s possible he just made an Obama-esque statement — one that’s absurd.

Sloppy speaking comes from sloppy thinking.

24 posted on 03/04/2011 11:28:22 PM PST by thecodont
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To: luv2ndamend

>At this point it seems that if ObumBler himself came out and said I was not born here, they still would not care.<

You know darn well that the MSM would say .. so what!
Chrissy Matthews would have a tinkle down his leg and say what a great day it was that we elected a foreigner.
Stephonolopis would argue that he is in now so no harm no foul.
GMA would all be saying, what a wonderful job he has been doing especially since he wasn’t familiar with our customs and way of life.
Joe the idiot would be screaming anyone who wanted him out was a racist.

I can hear it all now.


25 posted on 03/05/2011 12:32:34 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz
Chrissy Matthews would have a tinkle down his leg and say what a great day it was that we elected a foreigner.

Nicolas Kristof of the New York Times said that first.

26 posted on 03/05/2011 12:34:02 AM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

>Nicolas Kristof of the New York Times said that first.<

did he get tinkle on his leg too??


27 posted on 03/05/2011 2:10:30 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: hondact200
Is this cover for Huckabee?

Absolutely!

Huckabee has been planning to cover his "Kenya" gaff since 2006. That's why he'll make an outstanding president. he's clairvoyant.

Giggle!

28 posted on 03/05/2011 5:45:30 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: COgamer

Obama stated that he hasd part of his childhood inm Kenya.

There is no part of the fabled nativity story of Barack Abdallah Husein Obama being in Kenya before the early 1980’s.


29 posted on 03/05/2011 7:45:56 AM PST by syc1959
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To: Beckwith

Huckabee already said he misspoke. He can’t now go back and say anything different.


30 posted on 03/05/2011 7:50:00 AM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: syc1959
Obama stated that he hasd part of his childhood inm Kenya.

There is no part of the fabled nativity story of Barack Abdallah Husein Obama being in Kenya before the early 1980’s.

That's true, but Zero's childhood was not over in the 1980's and, in fact, continues to the present day.

31 posted on 03/05/2011 8:00:52 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Barack Abdallah Husein Obama is the one that stated that “where ironicall I actually have more of a childhood than I do in Kenya.”

If Obama was never in Kenya as a child, then why id ‘HE’ refer to it.


32 posted on 03/05/2011 11:56:16 AM PST by syc1959
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To: tirednvirginia

I am so tired of hearing about politicians who misspeak.

In the article I read, Gomer repeated his Kenya hallucination several times.


33 posted on 03/05/2011 12:46:12 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: GGMac
It is known he returned to Hawaii in summer of 1970 to live with his grandparents

It is also known that Obama was in Honolulu in 1969 when his automythology and every biography has him in Indonesia.

Obama's entire life is a lie.

34 posted on 03/05/2011 12:54:34 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

I’ve wondered if there’s a simple explanation for that photo - though ‘simple explanation’ in conjunction in any way with Barry’s life is a mind-bender in itself. On the wall behind the boys there are several kid-style drawings of Christmas trees. Somewhere in “Dreams” Barry made mention of going to Hawaii for Christmas every year. The layout of the book is so disjointed and timeframe-scattered that I refer to the subject snippets as ‘threads’. It was in a ‘thread’ of Barry living in New York City that he mentioned readying to go to Hawaii for Christmas, as was done every year.

With that reference in mind - plus that the family seemingly had an ever-running spigot of money for halfway- around-the-world travel - I wonder if that photo was taken during a 1969 Christmas trip home to the folks’.

Wierd. Considering that family and Barry, the logic of it seems so...illogical.


35 posted on 03/05/2011 2:33:10 PM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture.))
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To: GGMac

I need to make a correction. My statement that Obama senior visited Hawaii for a month in 1970 is wrong. It was a year later - 1971 - that senior was there, in December.

My apologies for being sloppy and giving incorrect information. I shouldn’t have relied on memory for dates - measure twice, cut once rule applies to everything!

Thanks, Beckwith! :)


36 posted on 03/05/2011 2:47:25 PM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture.))
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To: GGMac

There is a photo online of Obama, December 1969, with a classmate in a classroom in Hawaii. It is 3rd grade. He would have been 8 yrs old.

He has his arm around a little boy who looks Japanese. The date and names are handwritten along the bottom of the photo. I think it was found by the other boy’s Mom and put into the public domain.

This photo disputes the timeline that is given in every article I read.


37 posted on 03/05/2011 3:45:11 PM PST by Jude in WV
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To: Jude in WV
This photo disputes the timeline that is given in every article I read.

This is the one you're thinking of. Look at this particular blog for more info about it.


38 posted on 03/05/2011 3:51:33 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Beckwith

Every time I see this photo, it bothers me that there is no mole on the left side of Obama’s nose.
It is very visible in all recent photos of him.

There is a mole on Scott’s cheek that is visible in the childhood photo and also recent photos.

http://wzakcleveland.com/national/wzak/obamas-3rd-grade-photo-sent-to-him-by-classmate/


39 posted on 03/05/2011 4:00:58 PM PST by Jude in WV
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To: Jude in WV; LucyT; Fred Nerks

Lucy and Fred - what do you think about the lack of a mole? Can moles grow that big in adult hood but be entirely missing from the child?


40 posted on 03/05/2011 5:40:58 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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