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On BART Trains, the Seats Are Taken (by Bacteria)
New York Times ^ | March 5, 2011 | By ZUSHA ELINSON

Posted on 03/05/2011 10:48:41 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Carrie Nee prefers to stand during her half-hour commute on BART from San Leandro to downtown San Francisco. Although the trains’ blue fabric seats are plush and comfortable, Ms. Nee refuses to sit on them.

As Bob Franklin, the BART board president, acknowledged, “People don’t know what’s in there.”

Now they do.

Fecal and skin-borne bacteria resistant to antibiotics were found in a seat on a train headed from Daly City to Dublin/Pleasanton. Further testing on the skin-borne bacteria showed characteristics of methicillin-resistant staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA, the drug-resistant bacterium that causes potentially lethal infections, although Ms. Franklin cautioned that the MRSA findings were preliminary.

High concentrations of at least nine bacteria strains and several types of mold were found on the seat. Even after Ms. Franklin cleaned the cushion with an alcohol wipe, potentially harmful bacteria were found growing in the fabric.

MRSA is known as the “superbug” because it is resistant to antibiotics. It infects people through open wounds, attacking the immune system; 19,000 deaths each year are related to MRSA infections, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“There’s a probability that it is MRSA, but more tests would need to be done,” Ms. Franklin said. “Somebody probably was wearing shorts and had an infection, and there you go. It is concerning.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bart; mrsa; publictransit; publictransportation; sanfrancisco; thirdworldamerica

1 posted on 03/05/2011 10:48:43 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t touch anything on those trains; very gross


2 posted on 03/05/2011 10:53:37 AM PST by Hammer Tym (Skateboarding is a crime)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I had a perfectly smart remark for the headline......

And now you’ve made me forget what it was!


3 posted on 03/05/2011 10:54:44 AM PST by G Larry
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Reason number 3,276 not to live in San Francisco.


4 posted on 03/05/2011 11:01:25 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Although undoubtedly true that this bacteria is in the seats, it’s probably all over the train and all over things you touch everyday, like money.


5 posted on 03/05/2011 11:01:49 AM PST by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Compounding the problem is that something like 47% of the BART cleaning crews are ‘absent’ from work on a given shift. These jobs have a starting pay around $40K plus benefits but managment is looking for new 'incentives' to get the crews to come to work.

Lol!

6 posted on 03/05/2011 11:03:27 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Lorianne

The problem is people who try to live in a plastic bubble just wind up more susceptible to germs in the end, because it is exposure to bacteria that allows the human body to build up defenses. The human body is not fragile.


7 posted on 03/05/2011 11:03:35 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If she rides dressed like that I don’t blame her for not sitting down. She is practically exposed.

Maybe they should check out her bicycle seat.


8 posted on 03/05/2011 11:03:58 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Not Guilty!


9 posted on 03/05/2011 11:08:12 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81
I prefer 'Amber Lamps'


10 posted on 03/05/2011 11:09:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
We stopped going to a movie theater in downtown Houston because the carpet and cloth seats were so filthy. Mr Ditter and I both caught something and I think that was the place. I had the forethought when we left the theater that night to find the manager and tell her it was filthy and that we were never coming back. My husband ended up in the hospital for 5 days with a serious complication.
11 posted on 03/05/2011 11:09:41 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

I’m getting worried about bedbugs as well! You can pick them up from upholstered things. Like in a movie theatre.

I think upholstered seating on public transit is stupid.

It is interesting that the article exposing the filthiness of California transit is written in bedbug infested New York.


12 posted on 03/05/2011 11:13:34 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: dfwgator

That chick is the dictionary definition of “Cool while utter chaos reigns in a confined space.”


13 posted on 03/05/2011 11:14:26 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: dfwgator
The human body is not fragile.

Two words: "Weaponized Smallpox"

14 posted on 03/05/2011 11:15:05 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: buccaneer81

15 posted on 03/05/2011 11:16:02 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Persevero
I think upholstered seating on public transit is stupid.

At least the airlines are waking up and ordering faux leather seats for their planes. Those at least get a quick spray and wipe before boarding.

16 posted on 03/05/2011 11:17:10 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And, in a related story....bicycle seat sniffers throughout the world are going nuts at the moment.


17 posted on 03/05/2011 11:17:39 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Back when I was a young feller in the 70s, riding a bike 150 mi/week, you couldn't find a girl like that who would ride a bike with drop handlebars. Saddle technology changed everything.

Too late.

18 posted on 03/05/2011 11:18:49 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Cementjungle

Ditto !


19 posted on 03/05/2011 11:19:01 AM PST by Mears
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

After reading about the filthy fecal and E. coli contaminated shopping cart handles all over the country, I certainly wouldn’t trust train seats around San Francisco. Too many people who don’t use soap and water in this country.


20 posted on 03/05/2011 11:19:10 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The whole world has germs. Better to just accept it.


22 posted on 03/05/2011 11:23:40 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: kittymyrib

I used to leave the shopping cart child seat extended and put fragile stuff like eggs there rather than down in the cart. UNTIL...I was at the store and witnessed a woman changing a baby on that spot. Now I fold up the seat and I use the sanitary wipes at the entrance by the carts and wipe the handle and the bottom of the cart. People look at me like I’m nuts, but that’s fine by me.


23 posted on 03/05/2011 11:25:12 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

I don’t use the big carts with seats. I only use the small ones with no rug-rat seat.....anyway what you said is good to remember.


24 posted on 03/05/2011 11:27:34 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Agree with you on the public toilets. Gross doesn’t even begin. I’ll cross my legs before using a public toilet. Just get me home quickly.

It’s also not just the grocery cart handles but the seat where little kids and their dirty diapers sit. And then we plop our fresh produce there...

As for the gal from the article, ick. Honey, if you’d put on some clothes, you might not catch something and you might not give someone else whatever is crawling out from those panties.


25 posted on 03/05/2011 11:29:44 AM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: bgill

If that was my daughter showing her ass (and whatever else) like that in public I’d tan her butt......


26 posted on 03/05/2011 11:32:54 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

BART Trains

should change their name to -

MRSA Trains

It’s catchy.....


27 posted on 03/05/2011 11:37:28 AM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: Lorianne

” like money.”
Singles are the filthiest! They only last for a matter of months, then are shredded and dumped in landfills. And when you get the ones that have been “sanitized” and perfumed? Puke! Gimme dollar coins. They last for decades, and the actual metals used have bactericide properties.


28 posted on 03/05/2011 12:11:11 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: buccaneer81

“That chick is the dictionary definition of “Cool while utter chaos reigns in a confined space.””

Also, situationally unaware, while Not Carrying.


29 posted on 03/05/2011 12:17:46 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The biggest problem with public transit is that it is public.


30 posted on 03/05/2011 12:24:57 PM PST by xp38
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Think about all the germs going through airport security. Everyone takes their shoes off and puts them in a plastic container. Then the containers get recycled and you put your stuff in one. It sickens me to think of what’s in those containers.

I’ve made the decision to never fly again unless hog tied and forced to do so. If I’d thought of the creepy crawlers getting on my watch and wallet I’d probably have stopped flying long ago. And I don’t even want to think of what’s on the seat upholstery.


31 posted on 03/05/2011 12:36:51 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: Hammer Tym
If you think BART is bad, you should try MUNI, the SF city transit system.
Not only are the buses (and trains) dirty, you can be packed so tightly that its all but impossible not to breathe in what the person next to you has exhaled.
The worst is the 38 or the 38L bus. This is an exaggeration of course, but when riding on the 38 or 38L, one senses a little of what was experienced by those poor people packed on cattle cars on the way to concentration camps.
32 posted on 03/05/2011 12:42:38 PM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Did anybody else notice that the person named Franklin in the article changes sex in the article. Unless the lady is named Bob.


33 posted on 03/05/2011 12:49:01 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: Persevero
Upholstered seating anywhere the public sits is pretty stupid. Metal, wood, plastic or if it needs padding, vinyl. I remember a few years ago, after the new higher backed movie theater seats became popular, that adults were getting head lice from the seat backs. ugh! I remember when B&N Bookstores opened they had upholstered arm chairs sitting around the store. The bums and street people moved in like it was their living room and the chairs were quickly so nasty ONLY the bums would sit there. Now the chairs are gone and the bums lay on the floor.
34 posted on 03/05/2011 1:07:00 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The old movie theater I used to go to as a kid had what appeared to be smooth plastic covered seats. “appeared” since at one time they were plush too.


35 posted on 03/05/2011 1:19:20 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: buccaneer81
Now I fold up the seat and I use the sanitary wipes at the entrance by the carts and wipe the handle and the bottom of the cart. People look at me like I’m nuts, but that’s fine by me.

Many chain grocery stores in California provide sanitary wipes at the cart corral precisely so you can wipe them down.

36 posted on 03/05/2011 4:22:41 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey

Kroger does that here in Ohio.


37 posted on 03/05/2011 4:33:15 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wouldn’t pick up a 5 dollar bill if I dropped in San Francisco.


38 posted on 03/05/2011 4:33:48 PM PST by hattend (Obama got his 3am call about Egypt. The call went right to the answering machine.- Sarah Palin)
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To: bgill
As for the gal from the article, ick. Honey, if you’d put on some clothes

I had the same thought. She's indecent!

Agree with you on the public toilets. Gross doesn’t even begin.

Amen!

39 posted on 03/05/2011 4:53:37 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: GladesGuru
"Also, situationally unaware, while Not Carrying."

She has her hand on (or in) that bag over her shoulder...ya never know -- and that's a good thing... ;-)

40 posted on 03/05/2011 4:54:18 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Ditter

In a nostalgic vein, I remember riding my bike to our public library when I was a wee tad. Big luxurious upholstered chairs scattered around there. I’d get a few books and relax in one of those big upholstered chairs. Clean and comfortable. And a thing of the past, I guess.


41 posted on 03/05/2011 5:11:11 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: upchuck

I noticed that too! Ms. Bob Franklin! Well, this IS San Francisco...


42 posted on 03/05/2011 7:02:58 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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