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Richard Miniter: Use the Predator to put an end to Gadhafi's slaughter now
Colorado Springs Gazette ^ | Saturday, March 05, 2011 | Richard Miniter

Posted on 03/05/2011 4:47:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Slaughtering his own people and mocking the world's pleas, for peace, Libya's Moammar Gadhafi can only be stopped by force. Since President Barack Obama seems comfortable killing terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan with Predator drone strikes, why not in Libya?

So far, establishing a no-fly zone is the only air power option on the table... The Turkish prime minister has said he would oppose such a move.

A no-fly zone also creates political problems for Obama. He came to power promising to end two wars, not to start a new one. "Let's just call a spade a spade," Defense Secretary Robert Gates said. "A no-fly zone begins with an attack on Libya."

...Collateral damage to civilians is a real risk as is friendly fire. On April 14, 1994, over Iraq, two U.S. helicopters were mistakenly shot down, killing 26 coalition personnel...

Doing nothing beyond sanctions and speeches is also not an option. Libya is quickly becoming a humanitarian disaster... Libya's collapse could also destabilize our European allies. European Union officials privately estimate that the EU will see 250,000 refugees from Libya in the coming months.

For those concerned about the legality of striking Gadhafi and his inner circle, remember President Reagan's 1986 air strikes on the Libyan dictator. Yes, they missed, but no one contends they were illegal.

(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: Colorado; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: colorado; libya; noflyzone; predator; richardminiter

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1 posted on 03/05/2011 4:47:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

2 posted on 03/05/2011 4:49:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Muslims are slaughtering muslims.

We should stop them why again?


3 posted on 03/05/2011 4:50:48 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 774 of our national holiday from reality. - tic. tic. tic. It's almost 3 AM)
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To: SunkenCiv

Gates is right. We would first have to neutralize Libyan air defenses..then impose the zone. We are also short assets(AC Carriers in the Med. Italy and Malta might not allow us to conduct air ops from them. Not a good situation.
Remember the Predators have only operated in areas where there is no effective air defense.


4 posted on 03/05/2011 4:53:04 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat

I agree, and it was quoted in its own topic, but I really included it because of the quote. ;’)


5 posted on 03/05/2011 4:57:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: null and void

/bingo


6 posted on 03/05/2011 4:57:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The last time the words “slaughter” and “genocide” were used in a conflict it pertained to Kosovo. We now know the lies about that situation and how the U.S. reacted. Oh yeah, we just had an Albanian kill two of our airmen. Yep, the U.S. sure did become a friend of them, eh?


7 posted on 03/05/2011 5:00:08 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I bring to your rememberance this is the same society that said nothing after it was revealed their government murdered our citizens on the Pan Am bombing.

Then they celebrated the bomber as a hero once he got home.

Their hands are not clean. They got the government they deserve.


8 posted on 03/05/2011 5:03:02 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“remember President Reagan’s 1986 air strikes on the Libyan dictator. Yes, they missed, but no one contends they were illegal.”

LOL. The left squealed like a stuck pig when Reagan bombed Libya. Illegal this illegal that.


9 posted on 03/05/2011 5:04:12 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: SunkenCiv

We could also get thirty pound sledgehammers and pound on our toes.

The Iran backed insurgency is not a democracy movement and is more jihadist than the old reprobate himself.

Let them kill each other all they want.


10 posted on 03/05/2011 5:04:21 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Salvavida

You are absolutely right. We have absolutely no reason to get involved here. Let them all slaughter each other like the pigs that they are.


11 posted on 03/05/2011 5:06:15 PM PST by samtheman
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To: SunkenCiv

“a humanitarian disaster...” yeah, that’s the way Democrats like Clinton describe any third-world area in which they want to meddle, before wasting troops then tucking tail and running.


12 posted on 03/05/2011 5:08:23 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: armed and dangerous)
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To: samtheman

I am sorry for the innocent victims of this brutality - the kids, some women, even some men more likely than not -

but I am not convinced that the New Boss will be any improvement over the Old Boss. There is no sane person waiting in the wings to take over Libya, as far as I know.

So to risk American lives to ensure an uncertain or unknown outcome I can not support.


13 posted on 03/05/2011 5:14:46 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: tumblindice

Precisely — back then Clinton or one of his proxy whiners said, we had to do *something*. They never thought about, oh, setting up aid stations, delivering tents and blankets. Gore told one family that their son/brother had died on behalf of the UN.


14 posted on 03/05/2011 5:15:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: ModelBreaker

They liked Gaddafi then. Maybe now he’s not anti-American enough. Or maybe the left is just inherently violent and anti-social.


15 posted on 03/05/2011 5:16:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Let him win, then kill him.


16 posted on 03/05/2011 5:17:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SunkenCiv

I was thinking of Sec. of State `Thunderthighs’ saying we should enforce a `no-fly’ zone in Libya, but yes, it’s another Clinton: “Hey, there’s a hornets nest, people are getting stung, we have to stick our hands in it!”
After what happened to our Rangers in Mogadishu, I promised myself I was going to yell like hell if I saw anything like it in the future. It’s a civil war. We should stay out of it.


17 posted on 03/05/2011 5:23:42 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: armed and dangerous)
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To: SunkenCiv

Too late the sas is on the hunt...


18 posted on 03/05/2011 5:33:48 PM PST by databoss
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To: SunkenCiv
... the EU will see 250,000 refugees from Libya in the coming months.

If that is true--it probably is--part of the inprocessing of these people needs to be Baptism and a trip past an incinerator where the copy of the koran they brought with them can be disposed of.

19 posted on 03/05/2011 5:42:07 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (An election is not a (national) suicide pact.)
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To: SunkenCiv

If I recall correctly, a few years back the Congress passed a law making it illegal for us to kill a head of state.


20 posted on 03/05/2011 5:42:37 PM PST by reg45
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To: reg45

Laws are for Republican Presidents.

And anyway, once Gaddafi’s dead, he’s no longer head of state, problem solved. ;’)


21 posted on 03/05/2011 5:52:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Richard go buy a good sniper rifle and take off, have fun, just leave the united states out of it. This is his neighbors problem.


22 posted on 03/05/2011 6:01:42 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: taxesareforever
“Oh yeah, we just had an Albanian kill two of our airmen.”

Wrong. He was born in Germany and lived all his life in Germany. His ancestry was Kosovar Albanian, but he was a German national.

23 posted on 03/05/2011 6:04:56 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: cripplecreek; RobinOfKingston

great idea!


24 posted on 03/05/2011 6:13:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Make me president and I promise to terrify the world.


25 posted on 03/05/2011 6:18:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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26 posted on 03/05/2011 6:19:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: null and void
Muslims are slaughtering muslims.

We should stop them why again?

Because we're paying the UN several billion dollars every year that could be extracted from a domesticated Muslim population instead?

Because Barry needs to make sure there are enough Muslim Brotherhood members left alive after Saudi is pacified to elect him Caliph?

Because the regime needs to make sure there is a sufficiently rabid population of fellow Islamo-Nazis available for import (through Mexico or a "humanitarian" executive order right past the TSA pre-union) to counter the inevitable uprising of free citizens that the American Caliphate is attempting to foment?

I don't know. Lots of possible reasons.

27 posted on 03/05/2011 6:33:42 PM PST by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (I am one lab accident away from being a super-villian.)
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To: databoss

28 posted on 03/05/2011 6:46:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Salvavida

bttt


29 posted on 03/05/2011 7:36:03 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: GAB-1955

“Wrong. He was born in Germany and lived all his life in Germany. His ancestry was Kosovar Albanian, but he was a German national.”

Then you better go out and straighten out the press reports. Are you a muslim?

“Two other U.S. Air Force personnel were wounded in the attack Wednesday by Arid Uka, an ethnic Albanian from Kosovo.”

Those are not my words, those are the words of the press.


30 posted on 03/05/2011 9:29:18 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: taxesareforever
ttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12633830

US airmen shot in German airport

Germany warns of planned attacks

Prosecutors in Germany say they suspect Islamic militancy as the motive for a gun attack on US airmen at Frankfurt Airport, in which two died.

...

‘Engaged in Holy War’
* The suspect has been named as Arid Uka, 21, who is said to have been born in Germany to parents who moved there from Kosovo about 40 years ago. *


There's my source.

And if I am a Muslim, my pastors, my wife, and my Coast Guard friends would be very surprised. I believe in truth and I believe in accurate information.

Uka got involved in militancy in Germany, not Kosovo.

31 posted on 03/06/2011 6:04:39 AM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: taxesareforever
ttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12633830

US airmen shot in German airport

Germany warns of planned attacks

Prosecutors in Germany say they suspect Islamic militancy as the motive for a gun attack on US airmen at Frankfurt Airport, in which two died.

...

‘Engaged in Holy War’
* The suspect has been named as Arid Uka, 21, who is said to have been born in Germany to parents who moved there from Kosovo about 40 years ago. *


There's my source.

And if I am a Muslim, my pastors, my wife, and my Coast Guard friends would be very surprised. I believe in truth and I believe in accurate information.

Uka got involved in militancy in Germany, not Kosovo.

32 posted on 03/06/2011 6:04:54 AM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: GAB-1955

I stand corrected on where he was born. However, I also believe in what Mark Steyn has to say about this situation. According to Steyn, Kosovo and Albania are not limited to their geographical boundaries.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/261379/arid-uka-s-gratitude-mark-steyn

I apologize for my asking if you were a muslim.


33 posted on 03/06/2011 12:16:16 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: taxesareforever
I see what Steyn is saying. However, I don't think this is directly related to Kosovo, but rather to Islamic militancy.
34 posted on 03/07/2011 5:41:02 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: null and void
Nobody said we should stop them from killing each other, we should arm the rebels so that they kill each other more!

If you want muslims to kill each other then you should always support the weaker side just to continue the conflict. If Kadhafy defeats the rebels then the killing will end.

35 posted on 03/07/2011 6:53:45 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: GAB-1955

I believe that Steyn is making the comparison between what this country did for muslims in Kosovo and what this muslim with links to Kosovo carried out against American airmen.

There is this deadly thinking that if we, as a country, treat muslims nice they in return will repect us. Nothing can be further from the truth.


36 posted on 03/07/2011 8:20:22 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Let's just call a spade a spade," Defense Secretary Robert Gates said

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37 posted on 03/07/2011 8:22:50 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: SunkenCiv
For those concerned about the legality of striking Gadhafi and his inner circle, remember President Reagan’s 1986 air strikes on the Libyan dictator. Yes, they missed, but no one contends they were illegal.

I think Minter may want to reconsider this laughably inaccurate claim. Virtually all the Left chorused that it was illegal, gushing great gouts of tears over an infant that Gaddafi belatedly adopted so that he could claim to have lost a daughter. It was an absolutely disgusting display of his ability to manipulate the credulous media who were determined to manipulate everyone else.

No, we do not need to assassinate a foreign despot from the skies to augment 0bama's popularity polls. The dog is getting tired of being wagged.

38 posted on 03/07/2011 8:35:00 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I do like the way you think!


39 posted on 03/08/2011 7:43:13 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 776 of our national holiday from reality. - tic. tic. tic. It's almost 3 AM)
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To: Billthedrill

I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about half the time. :’)


40 posted on 03/08/2011 5:09:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Lurker

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41 posted on 03/08/2011 5:14:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: taxesareforever
The problem I have is treating all Muslims alike. You have national, economic, and cultural differences. A Turk is not a Wahabi Saudi fanatic; an Indonesian is not a Berber.

What I do agree is making it clear that any call for jihad will be stomped on quickly.

42 posted on 03/08/2011 6:31:34 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: GAB-1955

Let’s put it another way. Are all white supremacists bad? If so, why? Could it be what they believe in? I think so. The same goes for muslims. They believe the koran, do they not? If this is true, what does the koran say? It says to kill the infidels. Who are the infidels? Anyone who is not a muslim. The fanatical muslims use the quiet muslims as their “we are loving” red herrings. Islam is an evil ideology just like nazism is evil. Neither of them is about religion. In fact they both are about abolishing religion and establishing a political system based on their ideology.


43 posted on 03/08/2011 10:43:10 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: taxesareforever

bkmark


44 posted on 03/19/2011 10:54:59 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: tumblindice

Clinton stood idly by while one million Rwandans were slaughtered.

And they say it isn’t about oil.


45 posted on 03/19/2011 10:56:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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