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Sailor says Navy punishing him for sleepover with male sailor
CNN-U.S. ^ | 03/05/2011 | Jennifer Rizzo

Posted on 03/05/2011 5:23:42 PM PST by fwdude

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To: goldstategop
The law says you can’t be discriminated against because of your sexual orientation. Fraternization among enlisted personnel, is still illegal, regardless of who does it with whom.

And this, dear sir, is what the Communists, aided by the Gay Lobby, wants to overturn.

The ruination of all military order, instigated by endless lawsuits for perceived wrongs, with the eventual goal of the internal rot of the military.

51 posted on 03/05/2011 11:47:12 PM PST by Lazamataz (IMPRISON JOE PRO BONO!)
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To: AnalogReigns

Exactly my point.

All the law says is you can’t be discriminated on account of your sexual orientation.

It does not say you can use it an excuse to flout military discipline or to commit sodomy and other offenses against the Uniform Code Of Military Justice.

I think when Congress voted to end DADT, I think most Americans think gays don’t deserve to be persecuted or discriminated against but I also think they don’t want them given special privileges in our military service.

We Americans believe in equal treatment under the law and that doesn’t change with the repeal of DADT. It just brings things into the open. Gays now have no grounds to complain they are being treated differently from other service people. The same rules apply to them that should apply to straight people.

The same rule would apply if the sailor was caught sleeping with a woman. In my opinion, the Navy is just even handedly enforcing the law.


52 posted on 03/05/2011 11:49:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Lazamataz

I’ll tell the Left good luck with making sodomy legal in the military any time soon.

That’s a harder sell than equal rights for gays.


53 posted on 03/05/2011 11:52:15 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
What's the world coming to when one Sailor cannot comfort another who has had a bad dream?


54 posted on 03/06/2011 12:30:18 AM PST by Dagnabitt ("Obama" - Swahili for "Fail")
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To: fwdude

This crap more than anything else will force the return of the Selective Service Draft.


55 posted on 03/06/2011 2:10:25 AM PST by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: goldstategop

Your post is correct.

As a former Nuke sub sailor, I learned quickly that the Navy had many ways to get rid of those whom they thought were not good for the Navy. Once you sign on that dotted line, you better pay close attention to the rules, because if you don’t, they will come back to hurt you.

Now, whether this guy is a homosexual or not, it’s obvious his roomate was bothered by him and his actions and he did violate the rule on professionalism in the barracks, so punishment is warranted. By PO Jones fighting this, it won’t go well for him, even if he “wins”. The Navy aint fair, but then neither is life.

My son is currently in the Army and I asked him about what he thought about the removal of DADT and he said something along the lines of “if they think you are gay, they’ll crush you until you quit for some other reason.” Now that’s was his opinion, not official Army policy, but it follows what I saw when I was in the Navy back in the 80’s.


56 posted on 03/06/2011 5:39:43 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: Randy Larsen

You probably don’t want to then...

However, there is another version with the lyrics....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl160czHD-c


57 posted on 03/06/2011 6:00:46 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!)
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58 posted on 03/06/2011 6:08:40 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!)
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To: Iron Munro

My dad was a member of the Fighting 69th in WWII. It’s startling to see the 69th in a satirical logo like that, funny though it may be.

Ed


59 posted on 03/06/2011 3:14:14 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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My dad was a member of the Fighting 69th in WWII.

No offense intended.
I just saw that on the net and thought it was humorous so reposted it.

I didn't know there was a real fighting 69th. But looked it up and sure enough - there it was:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/69th_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)

"The 69th Infantry Regiment is a military unit from New York City, part of the New York Army National Guard. It is known as the Fighting Sixty-Ninth, a name said to have been given to it by Robert E. Lee during the Civil War."

There was even a motion picture named the "The Fighting 69th" starring James Cagney, Pat O'Brien, and George Brent:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighting_69th


60 posted on 03/06/2011 4:20:51 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: fwdude

"Any man caught playing grab-ass spends a night in the box!"
61 posted on 03/06/2011 4:32:51 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Iron Munro

No offense taken, at all, just thought you’d like to know there really was a 69th!

My dad has pictures of himself in Europe with them, posed next to signs, tanks, etc. So many of my relatives fought in that war...one uncle was a bombardier in a B-17, another uncle was in the 3rd Army with Patton, my mom was a Rosie the Riveter for Lockheed in Long Beach, I still have Lockheed’s “yearbook” from those days, with all the women riveters.

Thank God for all those wonderful people who buckled down and did what was necessary.

Ed


62 posted on 03/06/2011 4:50:49 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: fwdude

They probably worked at getting caught - they’re looking to go to court to ‘test’ the rules.


63 posted on 03/06/2011 4:56:26 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: Sir_Ed
Thank God for all those wonderful people who buckled down and did what was necessary.

Amen to that!


64 posted on 03/06/2011 6:12:19 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: MinuteGal
I wonder what their sleep number is.
Nope, I'm not gonna say it.

Mega LOLs!

65 posted on 03/07/2011 9:57:26 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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Aaaaaannnnd so it begins.

As if having at least two Officially Sanctioned Victim Groups (females and blacks) wasn’t enough, we really needed to add sodomites to the list?

This is just the beginning. Henceforth, instead of “it’s ‘cause I’m black, isn’t it” or “SEXUAL-HARASSMENT!!” being screamed in response to every disciplinary action, we’ll now have to hear “We’re here - we’re queer - get used to it!”

Mark my words - by the time this “test-case” is over, the “homophobic” roommate and all involved in the chain-of-command will be censured for “harassing” this fine, upstanding poof.

Welcome to “the new Navy”.

God help us — and God Save Our Republic!


66 posted on 03/25/2011 9:21:59 PM PDT by Dedicated_Dad
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