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Terry report: Border agents fired first -- with bean bags
KGUN-TV ABC 9 Tucson, Ariz. ^ | 2011-02-28

Posted on 03/06/2011 12:21:29 PM PST by rabscuttle385

TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - On the night he was killed, there is no indication that Border Agent Brian Terry ever got off a shot. That is one of the revelations contained in a confidential document that 9 On Your Side has obtained.

The document is a BORTAC incident report - BORTAC being an acronym for Border Patrol Tactical Unit. According to the report, Terry was one of six officers taking part in a patrol in the Rio Rico area - not four, as the Border Patrol had previously stated. The Border Patrol has said very little about what happened that night, but after the shooting stated that four officers had been looking for bandits preying on drug and human smugglers.

The incident report states that shortly at 11:15 PM on the night of December 14, a group of five people approached the officers in the Peck Well area, where the officers were waiting in the dark. The agents saw that two of the men were armed with rifles. One agent identified himself as a Border Patrol agent - then, according to the report, fired two rounds from the non-lethal weapon he was carrying, a shotgun that fired bean bags. That agent, the report says, then continued the firefight with real bullets, fired from his service firearm. A second agent joined the firefight, using his service M-4 rifle.

The incident report does not specifically say, at this point, that the suspects returned fire. But after the shooting stopped, Terry cried out that he was hit and that he could not feel his legs. He lost consciousness moments later.

Later agents arrested four suspects - one of them was severely wounded. If any of the agents saw what the wounded suspect was doing when he was hit, it is not indicated in the report.

Out of an initial six suspects whose arrests were announced following the shooting, only one remains in custody - the one who was wounded on the night of the attack. Even that suspect has not been charged with murder as of yet.

This incident report was first leaked a few weeks ago and has appeared on various blogs. A reliable source told KGUN9 News that it is authentic.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: borderpatrol; cbp; gunwalker; illegalinvasion; invasion; mexicaninvasion; mexicanwar2; mexico; obama; projectgunwalker

1 posted on 03/06/2011 12:21:35 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: SandRat; bcsco; HiJinx; gubamyster; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; calcowgirl; Bokababe; dcwusmc

Why are Border Patrol agents in Arizona ordered to fight with bean bags against AK-47s?

This is definitely Obama’s fault, and McCain is complicit.


2 posted on 03/06/2011 12:23:17 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is reminiscent of that scene in Sherlock Holmes, where Sherlock hit the Frenchman in the chest with the hammer and it bounces harmlessly off.


3 posted on 03/06/2011 12:24:12 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: rabscuttle385

KGUN 9 New is a Leftie news site in TUCSON don’t trust it. They are pro - open borders.


4 posted on 03/06/2011 12:25:54 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Bama bullets


5 posted on 03/06/2011 12:27:39 PM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: rabscuttle385
Isn’t shooting “bean” bags at Mexicans kind of racist
6 posted on 03/06/2011 12:28:00 PM PST by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: rabscuttle385
These border guards should not have rushed to jump the gun like this...

Should have ramped up more friendly like...


7 posted on 03/06/2011 12:33:59 PM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: tophat9000
Isn’t shooting “bean” bags at Mexicans kind of racist?

Only if they are refired beans!

:)

8 posted on 03/06/2011 12:34:25 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Questions that should be asked:

Who approved ATF's Operation Fast and Furious?

What disciplinary action has been taken?

Has anyone even been reprimanded?

Was Border Agent Brian Terry murdered with a weapon that ATF allowed to fall into the hands of his killers?

We need answers.

9 posted on 03/06/2011 12:44:00 PM PST by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: rabscuttle385
I'm not sure what their use of force policy says, but I bet it doesn't say use non-lethals when presented with a deadly force threat.

Opening fire against known armed individuals with a non-lethal is a sure fire way to receive fire in return.

10 posted on 03/06/2011 12:45:15 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit
Opening fire against known armed individuals with a non-lethal is a sure fire way to receive fire in return.

Man, isn't that true!

I'm sure Terry's team has been interviewed regarding the incident, and I'm sure that this issue was covered.

Do you think the public will ever be able to read the report?

If not, do you think any of his team members will go public?

I hope so.

11 posted on 03/06/2011 1:02:08 PM PST by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Just a thought but if I were a Border Patrol Officer......I wouldn’t give a good GD what the higher ups said, if I saw an AK-47 there is abosolutely no way I would fire bean bags first.
Better to be fired for going against regs than dead.


12 posted on 03/06/2011 1:11:17 PM PST by sheana
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To: rabscuttle385

Amazing that the BATF & other agencies can use live ordinance on it’s own citizens..yet cannot be armed to protect themselves against opposing foreign people.
Am I missing something here?


13 posted on 03/06/2011 1:13:44 PM PST by UrbanPanhandler (To find something "Wrong" in anything, just find where government has touched or regulated it.)
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To: rabscuttle385
The Border Patrol ... stated that four officers had been looking for bandits preying on drug and human smugglers.

Protecting drug smugglers and human smugglers from preying banditos. Is this new to the BP job description?

14 posted on 03/06/2011 1:22:01 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: sheana

Bean bags are for playing Cornhole. Officer Terry’s supervisors needs to play a little Cornhole in prison.


15 posted on 03/06/2011 1:32:21 PM PST by healy61
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To: sheana

Fired?....more like jailed ie Ramos & Compean


16 posted on 03/06/2011 1:45:26 PM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: sheana
Better to be fired for going against regs than dead.

Except getting fired is just a first step. Next is trial, then prison.

17 posted on 03/06/2011 1:48:31 PM PST by runninglips (government debt = slavery of the masses)
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To: rabscuttle385

Obama’s fault.


18 posted on 03/06/2011 2:51:00 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Palmetto Patriot
Questions that should be asked:

Was Agent Terry killed by an ATF operative who subsequently left weapons behind as planted evidence?

19 posted on 03/06/2011 2:58:48 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Erik Latranyi

If you meant to type “refried” beans instead of “refired” beans, it’s still funny as hell!


21 posted on 03/06/2011 3:36:18 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross
If you meant to type “refried” beans instead of “refired” beans, it’s still funny as hell!

I typed it as intended....a double joke in one post!

22 posted on 03/06/2011 4:08:44 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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