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Henry Kissinger Calls On President Obama To Free Jonathan Pollard
Yeshiva World ^ | 3/7/11 | staff

Posted on 03/07/2011 2:40:06 PM PST by Nachum

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To: sarasmom
OK. I'll bite.

Those of us who know exactly the damage Pollard caused, need not, and bound by law as we are, we can not play your stupid game.

But that is just it, isn't it. You can't tell, and I only have what information that is publicly available. Then, I have the option of merely accepting your words as true.

Pollard sold information to the government of Israel. Israel sold the information to the former USSR.

Yes, that much is known. Does that in itself merit more punishment than others? So far, no.

That the former USSR does not exist anymore is not due to any action of the Israeli government, but despite it.

And there is evidence that the real politik of the years after WWII also revealed that the US withheld critical information from Israel that could have lead to its destruction.

Pollard will never be pardoned.

Maybe not. But, when then again, they let the Lockerbie bomber go, didn't they?

Israel was never considered an "allied nation worthy of special trust". That is what is obvious from the history of the last four decades. Israel was supported for reasons of politics and politics alone. Obama has caved on much of his policies to force Israel into concessions due to domestic politics.

It is clear that Obama's first actions as president was to create physical danger to Israel. His very first call from the Oval Office was to Abbas. His policies are diametrically opposed to President Bush. He represents an organized movement that wants to enable the enemies of Israel and has done as much as he could with plausible deniability to bring some of the most extreme haters of Israel this country has into his administration.

Israel and Pollard not withstanding, many of these people are also connected with the world wide communist movement. This is not a 'progression' of a change of policy towards Israel, any more than the ramming of Obamacare was a 'progression'. The extremists in our midst saw their opportunity and have taken it. Part of that agenda is the destruction of the private sector along with our currency and yes, the emboldening of the enemies of Israel. This includes arming and training them. It includes with holding weapons systems already approved.

Ah. I could go on, but this subject goes far beyond Pollard.

51 posted on 03/07/2011 7:30:07 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: RFEngineer

You’ve been practicing that speech for a long time, haven’t you? :)

I’ll let you have the last word.


52 posted on 03/07/2011 7:39:21 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

“You’ve been practicing that speech for a long time, haven’t you? :)”

I accept your apology.


53 posted on 03/07/2011 7:46:23 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Nachum
The issue of Pollard, and the many reasons of every western nation to seriously distrust Israel, predated the current Obama administration by several decades of consistent Israeli betrayal.

What separates Israel from Iran, is merely global politics, but not a clear moral choice for the rest of humanity, in the long run.

The vast majority of humanity do not wont to be involved in your insane quasi-religious cults.

54 posted on 03/07/2011 9:02:56 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Nachum; Ax; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000
More damage than the Chinese scientists that Clinton let go who passed on nuke secrets to the Chicoms?

I have Notra Trulock's Code-Name Kindred Spirit about Wen Ho Lee.

Lee at the labs went into the data when no one was around and had the warhead designs and the codes on a disk or two which he absolutely did not give to any of his unreported foreign contacts and subsequently destroyed so help me dog.

FBI team got lost on its way up the hill to his home--then lost a flashlight and found only it in two hours on-scene--a year after the incident.

All watched over by Bill Richardson at Energy; and in 2000 when the fire that consumed 50,000 acres closed the labs as the nuclear disks disappeared Buddy Young of FEMA showed up to clean house.

C. Michael Armstrong and Bernard L. Schwartz and their 200-page fax to PLA in 1995 bringing PRC ICBMs up to our level of reliability with options of MIRV--and of course Wen Ho Lee might, allegedly, in some wild stretch, have provided the small warheads.

Espionage has since been placed under the Commerce Department, as the handling of Ron Brown demonstrated--he shouldn't have threatened to sing.

We now have a president who gave Vladimir Putin information on Britain's nuclear deterrent.

Of course Hussein as a DICK or Degenerate Islamo Commie Kenyan feels entitled.

The most current example of the spy caught in the spotlight.

Will America run back to American Idol and The Latest On Charlie Sheen.


55 posted on 03/07/2011 9:32:12 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo; Nachum

Bumping both of your posts!


56 posted on 03/08/2011 12:24:48 AM PST by dixiechick2000 ("First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi)
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To: PhilDragoo

So is Mossad offering the U.S. a ‘deal’?

We’ll give you the information to expose the Kenyan Usurper in exchange for the release of Jonathan Pollard?

Dr. Kissinger has placed Barry in an awkward position here.

If Barry grants clemency to Pollard, the entire U.S. Intelligence community goes ballistic [as is evidenced from the comments on this thread]. There is less than 1% chance of that happening.

However, if an Acting President Boehner would agree to that ‘deal’, then something might be in the ‘pipeline’.

If I were Barry, I would be very concerned about this ‘request’ from Dr. Kissinger.


57 posted on 03/08/2011 1:11:17 PM PST by bigoil
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To: sarasmom
Addressed to Nachum: The vast majority of humanity do not wont to be involved in your insane quasi-religious cults.

WOW!!! The hate is just flowing in this room.

B'H to those that understand it's meaning.

58 posted on 03/08/2011 5:51:31 PM PST by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Nachum. Not gonna happen.


59 posted on 03/08/2011 6:16:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: bigoil
I am quite surprised to find Henry Kissinger making such a request.

The issue is toxic--why then would the request be made.

In 2004 Brzezinski and Gates co-authored the Council on Foreign Relations paper Iran: Time for a New Approach.

Obama kept Gates as his Secretary of Defense--after Gates was the Secretary of Defense for Bush.

And the Director of Central Intelligence.

Brzezinski says now is not the time to destabilize Iran.

Can there be a back-channel discussion of buying off an Israeli attack on Iran with such measures as a Pollard deal.

In my view Boehner does not have it in him to play for the birth certificate. He's been compromised.

With our muslim president the pardons go to the likes of the Lockerbie bomber, the Cole mastermind, and KSM of course.

After all, Jesse Jackson said Zionists would no longer be in the driver's seat.

Still, the implications of Kissinger proposing such a charged action--surely something more and other is being discussed.

Who are Kissinger's clients. He would be acting on their interests. If the Saudis, how do they benefit from a placated Israel.

60 posted on 03/09/2011 1:09:00 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo
Maybe a swap for the CIA agent is in the works and a third party and maybe a fourth or fifth are involved. Quid pro quo all around. Kissinger is doing the asking so our gov. does not appear to be involved in the very idea of Pollard's release. A really long shot / wild guess. The thought just hit me so I'm going with it.
61 posted on 03/09/2011 1:35:35 AM PST by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: RichInOC

I see what you did there.


62 posted on 03/09/2011 3:55:45 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: SunkenCiv

Are you one of the ones in the know? Don’t explain. I don’t want to know state secrets.


63 posted on 03/09/2011 4:07:53 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: freepersup
We've seen that before.

Russia-US spy swap in the works? Three famous swaps

64 posted on 03/09/2011 12:52:43 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: TheOldLady

I won’t give up my plausible deniability. ;’)


65 posted on 03/09/2011 6:14:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The plausible deniability is all yours. ;-)


66 posted on 03/09/2011 6:21:01 PM PST by TheOldLady
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To: Nachum

I’d rather jail Kissinger than free Pollard.


67 posted on 03/09/2011 6:27:57 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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