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Maine gets break in federal health care overhaul [Obamacare Dead: Maine granted waiver, entire STATE
cnbc ^ | 3/8/2011

Posted on 03/08/2011 9:04:12 PM PST by SonsOfLibertyII

PORTLAND, Maine - Feds Tuesday granted Maine a waiver of a key provision in President Barack Obama's health care overhaul, citing the likelihood that enforcement could destabilize the state's market for insurance.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: johngalt; maine; obamacare; obamacarewaivers; socialism; stickaforkinit; unconstitutional
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I am sure Texas will be fine with Maine getting a wiaver but Texans having to slave under Obamacare.
1 posted on 03/08/2011 9:04:18 PM PST by SonsOfLibertyII
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

OBAMACARE! Another Dumbass Liberal Idea!


2 posted on 03/08/2011 9:05:43 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Just say NO to union greed!)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII
...citing the likelihood that enforcement could destabilize the state's market for insurance.

I thought that was the whole point.
3 posted on 03/08/2011 9:06:15 PM PST by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Ironic. Wasn’t Snowe the GOP senator who drifted?


4 posted on 03/08/2011 9:06:51 PM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Well not a complete waiver, but cracks in the Dam, a camels nose under the tent.
DETAILS: Its a waiver of the requirement of spending 80 cents to 85 cents of every premium dollar on medical care and quality improvement. Maine can keep it to 65% for a few more years as the 65% has been the norm for Maine for some time.


5 posted on 03/08/2011 9:08:45 PM PST by SonsOfLibertyII
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Whatever happened to “equal protection under the law”?

There’s no way that any of these waivers are going to stand up in a court of law, if challenged.

I also saw on Drudge that Obama’s DOJ has filed their appeal per Judge Vinson’s order, in the 11th Circuit.


6 posted on 03/08/2011 9:10:00 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Renderofveils
It is, with the insurance industry in the cat-bird seat to divide up the spoils of the new government monopoly.

Not for nothing the ins. companies were the major writers of obamacare.

7 posted on 03/08/2011 9:10:00 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Put a fork in this garbage. Isn’t this a violation under equal protection?

They grant any more waivers to this disaster it will become a bill of attainder to the last man standing.


8 posted on 03/08/2011 9:11:23 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: doorgunner69

Some States Are More Equal Than Others..


9 posted on 03/08/2011 9:11:24 PM PST by BobSimons
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Did the whole sate of Maine have to sell all their first born sons to get this waver?


10 posted on 03/08/2011 9:11:27 PM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Is it just me, or does this country drift towards dictatorship when the Executive Branch can determine (via waivers in this case) which states and companies get punished by Obamacare (or any other program).

It seems that if laws are passed by Congress, they should either apply to EVERYONE, or no one.


11 posted on 03/08/2011 9:11:55 PM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

There will be so many waivers, that it will be up to a few taxpayers, a few states (dem ones) to fund this whole mess. It’s dead, trust me!


12 posted on 03/08/2011 9:16:07 PM PST by blondee123 (Chaos in the Middle East, Chaos in streets of America & Zero Parties On!)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

NOT!


13 posted on 03/08/2011 9:16:48 PM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: BobL

You’re right, of course. But we no longer live in that America.


14 posted on 03/08/2011 9:16:53 PM PST by unkus
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To: headstamp 2

Obamacare is DOA. This is a golden opportunity to bury all the other dead-weighted liberal ideas along with it.


15 posted on 03/08/2011 9:16:59 PM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


16 posted on 03/08/2011 9:17:44 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
OBAMACARE! Another Dumbass Liberal Idea!

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BTTT PING!

He bamboozled millions... gave us the old 'okee doke.

PING-WIMPY-CLAPPER2sm
A National Embarrassment

17 posted on 03/08/2011 9:18:17 PM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: silverleaf

The first states who should have to keep it are the ones who elected people who voted for it!


18 posted on 03/08/2011 9:18:17 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

We are such a 3rd world country now.

You know you suck when Honduras outshines you.


19 posted on 03/08/2011 9:18:20 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: blondee123

I agree, it’s basically dead. Class action lawsuits and non-compliance should finish it off.


20 posted on 03/08/2011 9:18:56 PM PST by unkus
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

This thing gets more and more UNCONSTITUTIONAL as it goes on. Besides the long-standing fact that the Govt can’t force you to buy something, the enforcement of Obamacare, and the waivers issued, are becoming nearly random.


21 posted on 03/08/2011 9:20:47 PM PST by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Windflier

Obama and Eric “my people” Holder happened, along with a bunch of activist liberal judges.


22 posted on 03/08/2011 9:21:12 PM PST by matt04
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhimkgtSr5c

So Senator Snowe, how are they hanging now?


23 posted on 03/08/2011 9:21:43 PM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: oyez

This is a golden opportunity to bury all the other dead-weighted liberal ideas along with it.


Unfortunately, that won’t happen. Every level of our society, especially governments, is infected with “liberal ideas”.


24 posted on 03/08/2011 9:22:31 PM PST by unkus
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To: Salvavida
Straight to the top: POST OF THE MONTH ! ! !
25 posted on 03/08/2011 9:24:40 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Can We The People file a class action suit against Obummer?


26 posted on 03/08/2011 9:25:27 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

The revolt this stupid piece of legislation has unleashed is truly heartening. Maybe it’s possible to undo liberal initiatives after all. Too bad Wilson, Roosevelt and LBJ weren’t as incompetent as Obama and his congressional stooges.


27 posted on 03/08/2011 9:25:57 PM PST by Minn
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Liberals all get waivers from ObaminationCare.


28 posted on 03/08/2011 9:27:31 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: blondee123

Time to convene a Death Panel on the entire law.


29 posted on 03/08/2011 9:29:06 PM PST by alancarp (Hi, I could have been in New York state today. So I owe them income taxes for the entire YEAR??)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

It really is all in the details. Thanks for providing those.


30 posted on 03/08/2011 9:29:13 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII
[. . .Maine Insurance Superintendent Mila Kofman feared that one of three major insurers offering individual plans in Maine would withdraw from the market altogether if the federal requirement remained in place.]

The 250-page Republican bill would have allowed insurers to sell in all 50 states.

31 posted on 03/08/2011 9:31:14 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Barack Obama carried Maine with 58% of the vote in the 2008 elections, and 52% of voters in the state now approve of the job he is doing... rasmussenreports.com

Three local chapters of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU)--whose political action committee spent $27 million supporting Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election--have received temporary waivers from a provision in the Obamacare law. The three SEIU chapters include the Local 25 in Obama's hometown of Chicago. nation.foxnews.com

Health and Humand Services Grant 126 New ObamaCare Waivers…Total Waivers now at 1040 scottystarnes.wordpress.com

You don't have to be a Supreme Court Justice to see that this isn't fair. Maine should pay just like the other 57 states. So should the SEIU.

32 posted on 03/08/2011 9:31:25 PM PST by Daaave ( "Where it all ends I can't fathom my friends")
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To: alancarp

Put it out of our misery!


33 posted on 03/08/2011 9:33:01 PM PST by unkus
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To: silverleaf
Wasn’t Snowe the GOP senator who drifted?

.....and now you know why....quid pro quo.

34 posted on 03/08/2011 9:33:05 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

This opens up another constitutional challenge that excises have to be uniform among the states.


35 posted on 03/08/2011 9:40:10 PM PST by TXConservative25
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To: BobL

Obama, the democrats, unions and Obama TV make the laws however they want. All of TV supports him and idiots who watch TV empower him.


36 posted on 03/08/2011 9:45:23 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Draconian laws don’t tolerate waivers or exceptions or blinking terribly well. This means the dems are basically standing there with just their ***** in their hands as Santino Corleone put it, and they don’t have any policy at all.


37 posted on 03/08/2011 9:46:07 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: SonsOfLibertyII
It is time we kick the liberal states the hell out of this union.

Why should we secede? Kick them out!

38 posted on 03/08/2011 9:48:36 PM PST by crz
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To: FormerACLUmember

Yes they do. One of the first waivers was the united federation of teachers. Only 361,000. They are bigger then CIGNA. The unions have hijacked America.


39 posted on 03/08/2011 9:49:30 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yes you can..you can also call a state grand jury and nail those congresscritters in your state who voted for it.

You’ll have to find the rules for Grand Jurys in your state.


40 posted on 03/08/2011 9:50:33 PM PST by crz
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To: Minn

Too bad Wilson, Roosevelt and LBJ weren’t as incompetent as Obama and his congressional stooges.


If 0bama is incompetent, I’d hate to see how he’d be doing if he were competent. 0bama and his minions know >exactly< what they’re doing. People need to wake up to that fact.


41 posted on 03/08/2011 9:51:28 PM PST by unkus
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To: BobL

14th Amendment equal protection clause; I believe that
prohibits these shenanigans.

So much for Zer0 the constitutional law teacher.

As Sonny Corleone said to brother Michael,”did you go to college to become stupid?”


42 posted on 03/08/2011 9:53:15 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: BobL
Is it just me, or does this country drift towards dictatorship when the Executive Branch can determine (via waivers in this case) which states and companies get punished by Obamacare (or any other program).

Remember back when President Bush told us that he didn't have to follow or enforce the law, and with all the talk about "unitary executive theory," many FReepers cheered the idea and flamed those who warned, "But what about when Hillary's in power?"

Oh, those heady days, when Democrats could never get power again, according to many.


Now, here we are, reaping what has been sown for so long. And President Obama is worse than Hillary Clinton.

43 posted on 03/08/2011 10:00:40 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Can We The People file a class action suit against Obummer?

Sort of ... "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

;-)

44 posted on 03/08/2011 10:04:49 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Nachum

Didn’t Obiwan just sya the admin. is going to appeal the judge in Florida’s decision? I can’t imagine he will fight all that’s out there opposing this...but it will likely all go to the Supreme Court.


45 posted on 03/08/2011 10:26:42 PM PST by caww
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

The Parrot is dead.


46 posted on 03/08/2011 10:27:23 PM PST by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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To: oyez
Did the whole sate of Maine have to sell all their first born sons to get this waver?

No, they just voted for their Republlcan Governor LePage and he publically told Obama he can kiss his a**.

47 posted on 03/08/2011 10:30:55 PM PST by tsowellfan (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Alan Keyes)
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To: tsowellfan

I guess there was a final favor owed to Olympia Snowe.


48 posted on 03/08/2011 10:37:13 PM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: lonestar

“The first states who should have to keep it are the ones who elected people who voted for it!”

I live in Nevada...we have Reid...he is only elected because California has invaded the state like a horde of locusts, and blue-ified it (at least in Vegas, and a little bit in Reno as well). Yes, my state elected Reid who was instrumental in it’s passage, but why should I suffer even more because California has ruined our once great state. Although, I expect Nevada to get a waiver soon anyway.

Be careful what you wish for, however. It is well known that Texas is booming. I’m sure your own California locust horde invasion is well underway, and it will only be accelerating as California crumbles.


49 posted on 03/08/2011 10:40:44 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: oyez
"Give me what I want, and I'll go away."

Wasn't that from Maine? Isn't that appropriate to this Snowjob?

50 posted on 03/08/2011 10:45:00 PM PST by MCH
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