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(Fleebagger) Miller says time for Dems to come home and take fight to ballot box
Wispolitics dot com ^ | 3-9-11 | JR Ross

Posted on 03/09/2011 9:04:13 PM PST by bigbob

One day short of the three-week anniversary of their departure, Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller said it's time for Dems to come home and take the fight over collective bargaining rights to the ballot box.

Miller, D-Monona, said it was "stunning" that Senate Republicans took less than 30 minutes to vote to end collective bargaining rights for public employees that have existed in Wisconsin for more than 50 years.

He called it a disrespect to the people of Wisconsin that will not be forgotten, promising there will be political consequences.

"It’s time for us to join the fight back in Wisconsin," Miller said. "It’s now a political fight that will be decided at the ballot box."

Sen. Bob Jauch, one of two Dems to be actively involved in negotiations with Republicans, said there may be legal problems with the vote and Senate Republicans had a responsibility to inform the public of any changes.

"This just isn’t the way a thoughtful democratic institution governs," said Jauch, D-Poplar. "They don’t want to govern.

"We’re trying to figure out whether we should change it to Czar Walker. I think that’s the term. The Senate should be called the Evil Empire."

Sen. Jon Erpenbach, D-Middleton, said the vote exposed the true Republican intent all along of breaking public employee unions. The guv has been arguing the last few weeks that the collective bargaining changes were fiscal in nature, but leaving them in suggests that wasn't true, he said.

He said Republicans didn't need to justify themselves to the 14 Dems, but would have to answer to the voters through recall elections.

"They lied to every single taxpayer of the state," Erpenbach said.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: dementalillness; fib14return; fleas; fleebagger; fleebaggers; fleeparty; leftchosis; markmilleridiot; publicsectorunions; unions; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
I think every one the Senate Republicans are ready willing and able to join this fight. They are not the ones who fled the state to avoid a "fight". And while Mark Miller may be a mental midget otherwise he may be right about this having "political consequences" - they just might not be the same kind he is envisioning.

Except for the lack of four-letter words, the whining and empty threats from the RAT caucus sounds just like what I read on the DUmp earlier tonight...

1 posted on 03/09/2011 9:04:17 PM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

The fleebaggers are just looking stupider by the hour the longer they keep up their temper tantrum. Walker has taken the wind out of their sails, the bluff out of their hand - they are idiots if they think they have some secret weapon by “staying away.” I hope they do. It will be their supreme undoing.


2 posted on 03/09/2011 9:06:45 PM PST by fwdude
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To: bigbob

You’re telling me the union goons didn’t do the trick?

Well, shiver me timbers...


3 posted on 03/09/2011 9:08:45 PM PST by max americana
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To: bigbob

The fleebaggers don’t get it.

there was already a fight at the ballot box. IN November 2010. When you went from a majority to a minority.

The fight at the ballot box took place, and you got your ass pounded. You jsut don’t get it. The people threw the fleebaggers out. They just refuse to recognize it.

Reality sucks for fleebaggers.


4 posted on 03/09/2011 9:09:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: bigbob

Fleebaggers and Unions lost .. Wisconsin gave them up for Lent.


5 posted on 03/09/2011 9:11:59 PM PST by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: bigbob; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
"It’s time for us to join the fight back in Wisconsin," Miller said.

Just how cowardly is THAT? (The fines must be hittin' 'em in the old pocketbook.)

6 posted on 03/09/2011 9:13:27 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You know it and I know it - and the people of Wisconsin know it because they’re the ones who flipped both houses of the state legislature from D to R, elected a strong conservative governor, and kicked Rusty Feingold, patron saint of all things liberal, to the flippin’ curb!

But the Fleebaggers don’t know it because they’re still living in their little bubble, and probably have been since November.

They’ve called Madison “25 square miles surrounded by reality” for years - and for a good reason.


7 posted on 03/09/2011 9:13:37 PM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob
"This just isn’t the way a thoughtful democratic institution governs," said Jauch, D-Poplar. "They don’t want to govern."

Right. A thoughtful institution that wants to govern runs away and hides in a hotel in Illinois.

8 posted on 03/09/2011 9:14:16 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
there was already a fight at the ballot box. IN November 2010. When you went from a majority to a minority.

Amen. Greta had one of these losers on her show tonight. After he went on for minutes how democracy was stolen, Greta asked how could it be stolen when there was just a fair election. He literally stumbled through a bunch of gibberish. He had no rebuttal. These jokers are done. I just wish Walker would have done this a couple weeks ago.

9 posted on 03/09/2011 9:16:24 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: bigbob

Sounds like ticks after a sheepdip.

Pray for Wisconsin


10 posted on 03/09/2011 9:17:27 PM PST by bray (Vote for Palin and against the Country Club)
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To: CometBaby

I think that Walker should hold off signing the bill and wait to see if they can get a quorum in the Snnate. Then push the budget bill that the fleebaggers skipped town over never signing the bill that was passed today. They can scream all they want but there will not be any legal challenges to today’s bill if it is not signed into law. Just get their worthless butts back into town and back on the job.


11 posted on 03/09/2011 9:19:13 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: CometBaby

I think that Walker should hold off signing the bill and wait to see if they can get a quorum in the Snnate. Then push the budget bill that the fleebaggers skipped town over never signing the bill that was passed today. They can scream all they want but there will not be any legal challenges to today’s bill if it is not signed into law. Just get their worthless butts back into town and back on the job.


12 posted on 03/09/2011 9:19:24 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: Lazlo in PA

Actually, I think it’s better that it had a chance to play out a bit. They have totally and completely exposed themselves. We now have soundbites and videos galore a plenty.


13 posted on 03/09/2011 9:20:16 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (WI Pubs 1 : Fleebaggers ZERO!)
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To: BOBWADE

Seems to me they could do that - once they have a quorum. Sort of a rope-a-dope...and boy, do they have the dopes.


14 posted on 03/09/2011 9:20:43 PM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

Now on to other issues like CCW and crackdown on the Mexican invasion.


15 posted on 03/09/2011 9:22:37 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: bigbob
One day short of the three-week anniversary of their departure, Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller said it's time for Dems to come home and take the fight over collective bargaining rights to the ballot box.

Only because they got their asses handed to them on a parliamentary maneuver. It's game on in Madison now and a huge win for Governor Walker.

16 posted on 03/09/2011 9:23:36 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: bigbob
It’s now a political fight that will be decided at the ballot box."

Translation: We are going to pull out every vote fraud trick in the book to cheat on recall elections.

17 posted on 03/09/2011 9:24:45 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (WI Pubs 1 : Fleebaggers ZERO!)
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To: bigbob

He called it a disrespect to the people of Wisconsin that will not be forgotten, promising there will be political consequences.

I don't feel disrespected. And I won't forget the truant Senators at election time either. What deranged fantasy world are these Senators living in? DU?


18 posted on 03/09/2011 9:27:14 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: bigbob

Th Chicago mob has been busy at work the past few weeks making up ballots at Obamas behest in Wi.

It is the Chicago way.


19 posted on 03/09/2011 9:27:15 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: bigbob

The chutzpah of Democrats never fails to amaze me. They ran off to IL to shut down the business of the Senate and then spent 3 weeks trying to blackmail Republicans into following their agenda and, still, they think they have the right to lecture about integrity and morality.

I’m glad they got slapped.


20 posted on 03/09/2011 9:28:24 PM PST by chickadee
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To: Mygirlsmom

Bingo.


21 posted on 03/09/2011 9:28:38 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

Time to focus on voter ID reform, then.


22 posted on 03/09/2011 9:30:49 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

We just need to DEMAND oversight.
We’ve beat them at these shenanigans before (Al Gore is still saddened)

But this wont be easy with Obamas mob in power.


23 posted on 03/09/2011 9:34:43 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: bigbob

“Miller, D-Monona, said it was “stunning” that Senate Republicans took less than 30 minutes to vote to end collective bargaining rights for public employees that have existed in Wisconsin for more than 50 years. “

These people are delusional. They are directly responsible for this. They allowed it to pass without a single opposing Dem vote. What did they think would happen when they abandoned their responsibilities to go putz around in another state? The wheels would just fall off the government bus, and Republicans would beg for them to come back?

I understand the 30 minutes is referring to the vote, but there’s also an implication in there that this hasn’t been discussed to death for a month now - and that the contents of the bill haven’t been known for a month now.


24 posted on 03/09/2011 9:35:31 PM PST by COgamer
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To: bigbob

For three weeks we have watched this unfold and not even the media can cover up the thugs behavior. Eyes have been opened.


25 posted on 03/09/2011 9:38:39 PM PST by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Waiting this long was stupid. This should have been done the day after the ‘Rats left.


26 posted on 03/09/2011 9:40:15 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: bigbob

The fleebaggers are a joke.


27 posted on 03/09/2011 9:41:30 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: jospehm20
Waiting this long was stupid. This should have been done the day after the ‘Rats left.

Waiting this long made the 'Rat Flees reveal exactly WHY they were voted out of office. Even showed what their types did to the capitol building and the creeps they called in to do the dirty work.

Governor Walker did the right thing. May God Bless him.

28 posted on 03/09/2011 9:50:32 PM PST by madison10
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To: bigbob
"This just isn’t the way a thoughtful democratic institution governs," said Jauch, D-Poplar. "They don’t want to govern.

LOL! And to think they actually have constituents that believe this tripe.

29 posted on 03/09/2011 10:25:32 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Why are public employee unions attacking taxpayers?)
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To: bigbob
Something tells me that prior to making his statement, Miller pulled the three week old piece of paper out of his pocket and filled in the number of minutes. It has all the spontaneity of the average pro wrestling match.
30 posted on 03/09/2011 10:34:25 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: bigbob
Miller, D-Monona, said it was "stunning" that Senate Republicans took less than 30 minutes to vote to end collective bargaining rights for public employees that have existed in Wisconsin for more than 50 years.

Um, no. 3 minutes, 30 minutes, 30 hours. It didn't matter. What was stunning is that the Wisconsin Democrats abdicated their responsibility to participate in the democratic process by throwing a temper tantrum and leaving the state.

It is THEIR OWN FAULT that the legislature resumed legislative duties without them. What? Did the Wisconsin Democrats honestly think that the Republicans were just going to play the Democrat game and wait forever to come back? You gotta pay to play and the Democrats just forked over a political fortune.

31 posted on 03/09/2011 10:34:47 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Why are public employee unions attacking taxpayers?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

On MSNBC, “We are going to return to WI and fight” “.....but not tomorrow”

So I think they mean eventually they will.


32 posted on 03/09/2011 10:36:04 PM PST by dila813
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To: bigbob
Hope they stay in Illinois, but now that the Union has lost a lot of there power and their money from workers who don't want to be robbed, they will be back.

20,000 workers could have lost their jobs but they would have stayed south but now the unions will tell them that they can do more damage by heading back to Madison!

I hope they stay in Illinois forever!

33 posted on 03/09/2011 10:36:51 PM PST by factmart
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To: bigbob; Secret Agent Man

Here’s how they also behaved, a typical temper tantrum in 1994, the year of Newt Gingrich, LOL!!!

“Sam Gibbons has had a few verbal showdowns with the newly elected Republican congress in the mid 1990s. During a taped Ways and Means Committee hearing, after being denied the opportunity to speak several times, Gibbons stormed out of the room shouting about how the Democrats were being railroaded and given no time to speak. He compared the new Republicans to dictators and shouted that he had “to fight you guys 50 years ago,” referring to Nazi Germany in World War II.”


34 posted on 03/10/2011 12:48:28 AM PST by danamco (-)
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To: bigbob

The Democrats behave like whiny children... they could have participated and made their voices heard. Instead, they got cut out of the process. No one asked them to leave WI. Undoing this reform is going to be very difficult as the Democrats’ cash cow is being slaughtered.

The unions couldn’t ask for a more cowardly or less deserving party to defend them in the legislature!


35 posted on 03/10/2011 2:38:15 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: xjcsa

The Democrats response to their minority status is not to act like a responsible opposition party but like spoiled brats. Their public stock has plunged. For the unions, they have been a losing investment.


36 posted on 03/10/2011 2:40:41 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bigbob
Very simple. If the Rats want to challenge the vote in court then they have to come back and fight it and then the GOP will just drop this bill and vote on the original bill because they will have a quorum.
37 posted on 03/10/2011 5:31:19 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: bigbob

“Now on to other issues like CCW and crackdown on the Mexican invasion.”...........

Don’t forget one of the MOST IMPORTANT issues....Voter I.D.

Getting CCW and Voter ID will be MAJOR improvements here in Wisconsin..........They have been a long time coming.


38 posted on 03/10/2011 5:43:50 AM PST by Progov
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To: Lazlo in PA

Wow, Greta actually challenged a liberal democrat’s statement asking a simple, logical question? Freaking amazing.


39 posted on 03/10/2011 2:28:19 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: bigbob

It’s “30 square miles surrounded by reality” but yes, you know it’s true.


40 posted on 03/10/2011 2:29:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: bigbob

It’s “30 square miles surrounded by reality” but yes, you know it’s true.


41 posted on 03/10/2011 2:29:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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