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Shuttle Discovery ends flying career, museum next
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-space-shuttle-discovery-career.html ^ | March 9, 2011 | MARCIA DUNN

Posted on 03/09/2011 9:37:33 PM PST by allmost

The one. The only. The last

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: discovery; marxistcoup; nasa; shuttle; spaceshuttle
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1 posted on 03/09/2011 9:37:35 PM PST by allmost
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To: allmost

The Obama Administration has put the final nail in the coffin of anything this country could still be proud of. Better that NASA dedicates itself to Muslim Outreach than explore the final frontier.

Yeah. That’s the ticket.

(retch...)


2 posted on 03/09/2011 9:40:55 PM PST by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: allmost

Semper Fi.

And a pity that two of her sister ships (and their crew) met such an unfortunate end.


3 posted on 03/09/2011 9:41:22 PM PST by Strk321
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To: allmost

A picture-perfect landing to mark the end of a beautiful run. The Shuttle is truly one of mankind’s crowning achievements.


4 posted on 03/09/2011 9:47:47 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Strk321

I watched a replay of the post flight press conference with the crew tonight, there was a question about the remaining shuttle operation being taken over by a private consortium of companies.
The question was put to the Mission Commander.. was the remaining shuttle fleet “robust enough” to last another 10 years.
In a nutshell he said, if maintained in their present form .. YES !!!!


5 posted on 03/09/2011 9:48:21 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: allmost
Hey! Let's stop spending money on space research and have NASA spend it on "muslim outreach"!


6 posted on 03/09/2011 9:52:29 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: Tigerized
End of an era, tears...and no manned program to follow it. 1970’s technology served us well. Where's the vision for US space leadership? Oh, I forgot, it's Muslim outreach time, right?
7 posted on 03/09/2011 9:53:24 PM PST by Netz
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To: bigbob

The song “Countdown” by rock group RUSH, from 1982. Sycronized to some pretty good shuttle photos and video. Based on the group’s visit to the control room for one of the early launches. Now a countdown to the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5vPrrnb6tw&feature=related

“...This magic day when super-science
Mingles with the bright stuff of dreams”


8 posted on 03/09/2011 9:55:29 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: allmost

Recall the Cowboy Bebop episode involving a rehabilitated Shuttle Columbia. Perhaps it’s only fitting that it should remain the object of that tribute.


9 posted on 03/09/2011 9:57:25 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Netz

“1970’s technology served us well.”

There’s no need to throw away stuff that still works and does what it’s supposed to do. That’s where we went wrong in the ‘70s. The proven Apollo spacecraft was discarded in favor of this hugely expensive shuttle program that didn’t live up to its promise of being reusable.

The Russians got it right. They’re flying a spacecraft from the ‘60s on a rocket from the ‘50s. It’s worked out very well for them, and they haven’t lost any cosmonauts on a flight since 1971.


10 posted on 03/09/2011 9:58:25 PM PST by Strk321
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To: bigbob

Same feeling I had at the end of the Mercury flights....Then Gemini....then Apollo...then the ISS....then the Shuttle missions. What could surpass those events? Damn, what a time. Prayers and thanks for all of the brave American Men and Women who have sat on top of a Redstone, Saturn or any other booster to reach for the stars. Corny? Maybe to the youngn’s but that is how we felt then. ‘Reach for the stars’ was kind of a mantra. The ‘Space Race’? Russia against the USA. What a time.


11 posted on 03/09/2011 10:02:38 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Strk321
The Russians got it right.

Don't start with that.

12 posted on 03/09/2011 10:05:10 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: bobby.223

Exactly.

I was watching the Discovery landing today and recalling a younger version of myself watching a black-and-white version of a similar event in the early 60s’...and thinking even as a kid what a marvelous time to be alive. When you remember those pictures of the little blue marble taken from the surface of the Moon, it tends to put all of our little issues into a whole new perspective. And shows what we are truly capable of. The Shuttle maybe be a “space-borne pickup trucK” but it has turned Jack Kennedy’s vision into a commonplace occurrence and made it possible for the first time in history for mankind to live outside his native planet.


13 posted on 03/09/2011 10:10:09 PM PST by bigbob
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To: dr_lew

What I was saying is that we were better off using throwaway spacecraft as they did. Much cheaper and safer.

That said, we ought to not be dependent on Russia to go into space. We need our own manned vehicles simply as a matter of national pride. Unfortunately, those are foreign words to the current president.


14 posted on 03/09/2011 10:15:34 PM PST by Strk321
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To: bobby.223

There seems to be some debris in your path these days.


15 posted on 03/09/2011 10:17:34 PM PST by allmost
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To: Iron Munro
Let's stop spending money on space research and have NASA spend it on "muslim outreach"!

Well, maybe they can figure out where that rock came from...

16 posted on 03/09/2011 10:20:56 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: allmost
My photo of Discovery on the pad, pre-flight, years ago.

One of my sons has worked at the base nearly 30 yrs - and on the shuttle program, QC. Every time I visit, he takes me for a tour.

When he was little, we lived in Cocoa Beach - "Mercury 7" days.

My brother was with the space program from the get-go - a space electronics, radar, sonar engineering specialist. Cocoa Beach, then, was a sleepy little town with 2 main roads running the length - and about the only Inn was the Ramada - where the Mercury 7 stayed when in town...My favorite was Wally Schirra - a really nice person. (And gorgeous dark auburn hair ;o)...)

My brother is long retired.

sy son soon will be too - thanks to our TIC (Traitor in Chief.)

All told, with the thousands already laid off at the base and the rest shortly to follow - and the businesses that were base-dependent, that area will lose bout 35,000 jobs. And the base jobs are specialized.

My son is in his early 50's. He'll lose his job, his insurance, his retirement and a long ways to go to SocSec - which will now be a lot less, due to the years to come...with what for work?

Not a lot of call for a QC booster rocket fuels - Houston Space Center is suffering the same fate.

Speaking of Social Security, I was looking at my statement for 2011 - where it says that we have not had a cost of living increase since 2008. Obmas tired to freeze military pay for 3 years - but that didn't fly. So he gave them the smallest raise since Viet Nam. (His very first months in office, he proposed that wounded soldiers, if they were married, pay for their own treatments through private insurance. Even the dems didn't dare pursue that one.

Then there's the other millions who have been put out of work n the past two years.

Those scruffy demonstrators - who HAVE over-paid jobs and benefits, in Wisconsin make me sick.

17 posted on 03/09/2011 10:27:23 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: Strk321
What I was saying is that we were better off using throwaway spacecraft as they did. Much cheaper and safer.

The shuttle had a lot of capability. It's the only thing that's been able to put up a crew along with a heavy payload. To match it Russian style, you'd need a heavy lifter and several rendevous with crews, but then there would still be no shuttle bay. Manned space flight is dead without the shuttle, well, except for the ISS, I guess. We'll see how long that lasts.

18 posted on 03/09/2011 10:28:38 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: allmost

Okay youngn’n....please expound.


19 posted on 03/09/2011 10:32:32 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: maine-iac7

Thanks for your family’s contribution to what was one of our finest efforts.


20 posted on 03/09/2011 10:33:37 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: dr_lew

True, but the big problem the shuttles had was the lack of a launch abort system, which doomed the Challenger crew.

That would not have saved the Columbia crew of course, but then the four Russians lost in flight were also killed as a result of reentry accidents.

And let’s not forget that the Russians tried to build their own shuttle once, but ran out of money and gave up on the project.


21 posted on 03/09/2011 10:35:38 PM PST by Strk321
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To: bobby.223

Was referring to current orbital debris. No more, no less.


22 posted on 03/09/2011 10:36:06 PM PST by allmost
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To: Smokin' Joe

It fell out of the sky, just like every other stupid, meaningless meteorite did.

Good thing it wasn’t a Coke bottle.


23 posted on 03/09/2011 10:51:31 PM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: Strk321
True, but the big problem the shuttles had was the lack of a launch abort system, which doomed the Challenger crew.

That accident was unsurvivable no matter what kind of crew safety system could be designed. Their only hope would have been RTLS, but you need more than two seconds of warning for that, and NASA even said that RTLS was probably a pipe dream under any circumstances on any flight because of the stresses that would be put on the spacecraft.

24 posted on 03/09/2011 10:56:17 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Salamander

Well NASA is a socialist waste of money anyway, no great loss. (Where does a lot of the ‘global warming’ research come from... NASA)
Private enterprize is finally starting to make it to space, we just need to give them some tax breaks, perhaps loosen some OH&S laws - its space exploration, accidents will happen but nothing ventured, nothing gained.


25 posted on 03/09/2011 10:56:59 PM PST by Mikse
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To: Mikse

“Private enterprize is finally starting to make it to space”

Really?

Cool.

Maybe we’ll get somewhere beyond studying how well mice and ants thrive in space.

[though the thought of them getting out of their habitats and flying around always cracked me up]


26 posted on 03/09/2011 11:02:13 PM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: okie01
Thanks for the nod

My daughter-in-law has already lost her job there...she was in the first wave of pink slips


27 posted on 03/09/2011 11:06:27 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: maine-iac7
They did important work.

You can be proud of them. As I'm sure you are.

28 posted on 03/09/2011 11:11:34 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: allmost

Debris? Well, you might be correct! I’m a very old timer...ret...living wealthy, healthy and ‘prepping’ up here in the high mountains. Target shooting?...safe, right off into a huge 324 acre mountain property off the back deck if I choose...it is an everyday happening! ‘These days’?......... Frank Sinatra feeling I guess, music wise. I hope you are as lucky and happy in your life as I am an have been in mine. Mine has been a life I would wish on anybody. I have been so blessed at my old and and young years and my folks. Oh well, I hope your station is as good as mine. Every American should be as lucky as myself.


29 posted on 03/09/2011 11:18:11 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Salamander
“Private enterprize is finally starting to make it to space”

Check this out:Bigelow Aerospace

Genesis I, in orbit since 2006

Genesis II, in orbit since 2007

Sundancer, to be launched in 2014


30 posted on 03/09/2011 11:19:00 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Wow.
Awesome.

I was not aware of them.

Thanks!


31 posted on 03/09/2011 11:21:26 PM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: Salamander
Bigelow Mission Control:

Bigelow will also train astronauts


32 posted on 03/09/2011 11:24:41 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Salamander

I bet they can cherry pick the cream of the NASA crop these days.


33 posted on 03/09/2011 11:29:30 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: okie01

Wow! Important work is right!!


34 posted on 03/09/2011 11:39:53 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: bobby.223

That sounds like a repeat. You first.


35 posted on 03/09/2011 11:48:09 PM PST by allmost
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To: allmost

I was in Jr. High on January 28, 1986 at 08:38:00 a.m. pst, and my entire class was watching the Challenger take off with a TEACHER on board. We were glued to the t.v., as most of America was back then, at the Shuttle Launch. We watched that coverage for hours, and the school day was cancelled.

Through the years, the good that has been done and the “waste of money” on the space program has gathered many a comment and complaint. These issues will be debated by others in the days to come.

Until then, I pray that the lives of all that were lost in the endeavor of exploration will never be forgotten. The lives of those who continue to explore will be honored for their sacrifice.

Welcome home, crew of Discovery, and the vessel that carried you home.


36 posted on 03/09/2011 11:52:46 PM PST by Crcl1
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To: buccaneer81

It was the inherent design of the shuttle that prevented a LES. Disposable spacecraft like the Apollo could simply use an escape tower, but that was impossible on the shuttles.


37 posted on 03/09/2011 11:56:44 PM PST by Strk321
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To: allmost

The Grays didn’t want us on the moon, so that’s it for the space program.


38 posted on 03/10/2011 12:12:58 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: allmost

Go Re-read my post? Still workin’ huh? How about retirement? Good God....You kids still having to work....


39 posted on 03/10/2011 12:38:39 AM PST by bobby.223
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To: Salamander

I was thinking we could send it back...


40 posted on 03/10/2011 12:42:05 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: bobby.223

I’ve got 12.3 years left and then I’m out!


41 posted on 03/10/2011 12:53:59 AM PST by Crcl1
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To: Strk321
The Russians got it right. They’re flying a spacecraft from the ‘60s on a rocket from the ‘50s. It’s worked out very well for them, and they haven’t lost any cosmonauts on a flight since 1971.

Not that they didn't try to advance beyond that. But the USSR's resources were stretched to the limit. As will be the USA's under Zero.


42 posted on 03/10/2011 1:01:31 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Strk321

No need to go to extremes. No need to throw away anything that works, agreed but it is time to move on - problem is, we have no back up system, no future for manned spaceflight. What does Eugene Cernan (Apollo 17) think about all this?


43 posted on 03/10/2011 1:32:36 AM PST by Netz
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To: Smokin' Joe

Just chuck it into a big pond or something.

[goofy rock probably isn’t even worth a crap for “skipping”, either]


44 posted on 03/10/2011 2:42:09 AM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: buccaneer81

Yup.

There are probably people working there who’d like to really accomplish huge things....*without* gubmint limitations.


45 posted on 03/10/2011 2:43:42 AM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: allmost

Okay sonny, whatever your young rear end has to say. Good God, you mouthy kids today.....


46 posted on 03/10/2011 3:10:54 AM PST by bobby.223
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To: Strk321

Quite correct. The shuttle program was sold as being reusable and economical. It was a huge waste of money and human lives.


47 posted on 03/10/2011 4:15:37 AM PST by iowamark
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To: maine-iac7

Heartbreaking, I’m sorry to hear this.


48 posted on 03/10/2011 4:46:27 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: bigbob

“what a marvelous time to be alive.”

I hear you. Man had gotten terrific at technology.

Unfortunately, he hasn’t gotten out of kindergarten on man.


49 posted on 03/10/2011 5:01:04 AM PST by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Salamander

Well, you see, I was hoping they’d all go on the annual run for the rock...a pond just isn’t big enough...besides, they’d have conniptions five times a day just trying to get pointed the right way.


50 posted on 03/10/2011 7:37:10 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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