Glenn who?
Posted on 03/10/2011 5:58:17 AM PST by JSDude1
A Christian author and national speaker has just released a video in which he flays radio and TV commentator Glenn Beck as a pagan, New Age "anti-Christ" who is deluding many believers away from the Bible's teachings and leading them toward Eastern mysticism.
Read more: Christian author: Glenn Beck actually New Age 'anti-Christ' http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=272953#ixzz1GCkP7RaC
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LOL
Glenn who?
Lol!!!! Although I don’t always agree 100% with what Beck says, this attempt to call him a promoter of New Age thinking is patently ridiculous.
LOL - he does look like Eddie.
I have received information from Brannon Howse in the past, and my impression is he is one of those guys who is hypercritical of everyone; that is everyone is apostate (except him of course); therefore he should be read with discernment, but not dismissed out of hand
That being said, I’ve had quite a bit of concern lately with the path Beck has been taking; I’m not a regular listener or watcher, but hear him from time to time, and he seemed to heading in a New Age-type spirituality.
I know a lot of Christians really like him, and he’s done excellent work on American history lately;
Therefore, Beck also should not be dismissed out of hand, but Christians especially should be discerning when a non-Christian like Beck discusses theology.
I may not agree with Beck all the time...although I do more than not, my main problem with the guy is his manic style...I'll take him any day over WND.
Yeah, go ahead with the belief that Beck is a warlock and wears crystals to keep werewolves away. Sheesh! It is amazing that only CONSERVATIVES have their faith challenged. Prove you are a true Christian?! This is so stupid.
Not anti-Christ, just a “different Christ” Mormons believe some strange things, including the fact that Christ and the devil are actual brothers. So “different Christ” is probably a better description.
Where is Glen?
The "Judge" is one sick dude. He better always keep his meds close by.
Well said.
Beck is Mormon... Most Mormons are good citizens but it is pagan and polytheistic (by definition “New Age”). To disguise it’s pagan nature, Mormonism applies a thin coat of Christian “paint”. But Mormon theology claims a mere mortal man can earn godhood and rule over his own planet (blood of the Lamb, need not apply). This “being like god” is one of the lies of the serpent in Genesis 3:5. All false faiths are based on the lies told to Eve/Adam by Ole Snakey.
Beck is shaking up his competing pagans (liberals), which is good. But everything he says should be examined, in the light he is WRONG at the foundation. I do pray for him everyday that God(of the Bible) will open his eyes to the Truth. God reached down and changed Saul/Paul (Acts 9)) and he became a great champion for Christ! Pray Glenn Beck (add Mitt Romney) soon have “Damascus Road” encounters with the true and risen Christ... and always pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Google “Mormons can be god” and you’ll find lotsa interesting stuff.
If this guy is going to crticize Beck then he ought to do it from the standpoint of what Beck says. Beck has made no bones about being a Mormon and so everyone can take that in and make up their own minds. A good start would be for everyone to understand where the Mormons differ from orthodox theology.
It would be better if Christian commentators would not break out the ‘Apostate Boggy Man’ theory when someone who is not aligned with them speaks and it would certainly be a lot more Christian!
Mel
We do have one, of course; they call him 'The One' or just the 'O' (as in eternal O). More familiar is his coming of age name and current moniker: Barack Hussein Obama.
And most of the 'sane' KNOW; that Glenn Beck is NO BHO. (Really, cannot take these people! Nor those who would believe this.)
Now, have thought, on occasion; that maybe Glenn would like to be his own version of 'Billy Graham'; but this hardly makes for an anti-Christ. Have also thought; Glenn Beck is no Billy Graham, either.
Well said...agree with you on all you wrote. And love your signature line!
I, too, like Glen Beck, but always listen with caution. I think this applies to a lot of people who are culturally popular within specific groups (politicians, actors, authors, etc.)—we must always apply discernment to those who are trying to influence us.
Blessings!
Kolob?
“anti-Christ” doesn’t just mean “against Christ”,
it also means “instead of Christ”.
Your term of “different Christ” fits with the second meaning.
There ya go.
Beck should stick to politics. When he’s “preaching”, he IS promoting New Age spiritualism, “the god within”, etc.
Your last sentence was right on the money.
. . .and realize, of course, those differences do not make one an 'Antichrist'. Nor does referencing 'Buddha wisdom'; Confucius or the Tao make one an Antichrist.
Howse is on thin ice here; just underneath is a similar MO by Shariah-mad Muslims who believe that everyone 'an infidel' per those who do not accept Koran in same manner, they do and so ascribe to them a threatening name.
(And while all Muslims may believe this; some at least, differ on the consequences).
(thought Neil Cavuto, reserved that name for himself/lol)
This is why I stated that I do not agree 100% with what Beck says. Particularly, in the area of religion, Beck has a very telling lack (though I also believe that Beck is a sincere and good man). I am fully aware of what Mormons believe.....though I really do not consider it to be New Age as such. Additionally, I applaud Beck for bringing a number of issues to light. I take what is good and leave the rest to God. I agree that prayer for him is essential.....and prayer is tremendously powerful. I pray for his protection....and further enlightenment. ;-)
Am confused: re meds: is it something the Judge said, that disagrees with you?
Or, is it just the Eddie MO that is troubling. . .
Yep, but Howse had a point on Glenn Beck’s rally though. As well as book.
I agree with your assessment. Wish he would stick with History/politics!
J.S.
No one questions his conservatism/libertarian view. What need to be pointed out to CHRISTIANS (and seekers) is that Glenn Beck is leading them away from Christ (not on politics, but ‘spiritually’).
If you don’t like it, or you aren’t a Christian (or seeker) then fine, go about your business!~
Just being an informist about this!~
I mean really, if it weren't for Rush talking about the dopes on MSNBC, or Chris Matthews being mentioned here on FR, I never would have heard of either.
Has anyone ever heard of this "Brannon Howse"?
It's a shameless PR stunt.
Please tell me how Beck is deliberately leading people away from Christ? Is this just because he is a Mormon? I personally have seen him talking to people about having faith, helping others, being moral. How is this anti-Christ?
Obama isn’t “the anti-Christ”, and you are crazy to believe he is. He certainly holds some weird views, and needs to be defeated politically, but I pray for Him, and I should for Beck that they are both saved (at some time in the future/present).
Beck trying to act like any kind of “Billy Graham” is exactly what this post (and this pastor’s warning) was about!
If this is what Glenn claims,(something I don't know for sure), then it is called Pelagianism.
By definition, Pelagianism is the belief that original sin did not taint human nature and that mortal will is still capable of choosing good or evil without special Divine aid.
New Age spirituality has much in common with the old heresy.
Deacon Francis
Yes it does, cricket, anthing that isn’t with Christ, is anti-Christ.
To make no bones about it, before one is saved by Christ, our very thoughts are “anti-Christ”!~
Just hope he (and anyone else not a “Chistian” in the Biblical terms and meaning of the word) become “born-again”!
Nope it’s a sincere warning for Christians or seekers, if you’re neither; then maybe this wasn’t meant for you.
RWB Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Rev.22 [16] I Yeshua / Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
HOWEVER...
Now that the LDS - his church - has been directly implicated in forcing through the Utah amnesty bill, a violation of Federal law and a direct affront to all American workers, WILL HE CRITICIZE THEM?
But this is all about WND going after anti-birthers. Farah has made both Coulter and Beck a target because they actually make fun of birthers.
The last time Farah went after Coulter/Beck, he tried to derisively brand them with the term materialistic libertarians.
Probably not.
Reminds me of the blind man that was healed by Jesus -
his parents didn’t want to answer the questions of the Pharisees for fear of being put out of the synagogue.
John 9:1-23
Yes, but not with Mormons. The Mormon Jesus was a created being, just as the devil was a created being.
The Mormon 'god the father' evolved from a man - also a created being.
I am both. However, I am also an extreme skeptic when it comes to human psychology and motivation.
Beck's theology is gobbledygook, but God quite often places His message into the mouths of stutterers and jackasses, and I believe that is what he has done with Beck.
Do not in fact, know much about Mormonism and not pretending to know too much about anything here. But Jesus is known as 'Son' of God and as such; 'Jesus' was created/born of Mary etc. Jesus as 'Christ' (the Christ aspect
The Mormon Jesus was a created being, just as the devil was a created being.
Do not in fact, know much about Mormonism and not pretending to know too much about anything here. But Jesus is known as 'Son' of God and as such; 'Jesus' was created/born of Mary etc. Jesus as 'Christ' (the Christ aspect or Jesus's 'Christ personality'), manifests much later, and is another matter or, more to truth 'non matter'. . .)
(And no doubt, more to story(ies/unfolding; with which, I am not so familiar!)
Can’t fault your statement
Cheers
Mel
Jesus is co-eternal God. He assumed a human form, but was always God. This is just not what Mormons believe.
Suggest you read Frank Sheed's "Theology and Sanity" for a great discussion of the Trinity.
Am only saying. . .one has to think 'twice' and perhaps, beyond the words to the ideas that lie behind them. In that 'frame'; there remain similarities of thought; expressed a bit differently perhaps; between the idea of God/Man/Son. . .'created' etc.
The implications of the Trinity, notwithstanding; while we are not God; all of Creation, IS OF God (mind/body/spirit) as life unfolds from the One. . .'first' and in, and from the 'beginning'. That includes the Angels and Archangels (and Jesus as man if you will/and so believe) of which Lucifer was one - per story - and his fall precips, of course, that of Adam and Eve. Must have; after all; there was that snake in the Garden - repping 'evil' and/or knowledge; at least it's danger/threat.
Anyway; in this respect; evil is brother in that family; albeit, a wayward one, to Good. That 'brother' tells us evil is a part of our Creation family. If it were not; evil would not be recognizeable, no matter what form it took. (The very word, recognition; presumes a prior knowledge and so it is; we 're'cognize - re-know - that which we already know).
Evil at it's most horrific; always seems UNrecognizeable - words can fail us by description. . .until, we look further; and see - recognize a thread of humanity at work - albeit at it's worst.
Evil is not 'easily' recognized of course. It is not so easily ID as is the 'creature Devil', we have come to think of as Evil, personified, in a manner of speaking. He is almost a comedic figure, compared to genuine Evil at work in the world. And why, of course, real Evil so easily hides itself, by comparison. And of course, the Angels themselves were God's first works of innocence and art; so why would we not be so easily fooled.
Of course in all of this, remains a 'good' gone bad (a brother; gone wrong); but that evil-once-good; inhabits our world. It is, however, inferior to the Good; it once was. . (Interesting that Libs seem not to notice their inferiority but they survive, by depending on lies 'foretelling a good'; of course.) Evil; having given up 'good' must depend on the 'goodness' of others for it to get around and so again; reveals it's inferiority. Evil needs a good horse to ride. . .
Good,of course, does not need evil. Good will prevail eternally; and evil, will not...cannot.
Oh, too much; I digress; and I Thank You, for the book recommendation.
(In a way; Jesus served some of the same purpose;i.e.; giving God a 'face' so that mankind could 're-cognize' and remember, that from which we came. And realize ultimately, the purpose of Creation.)
And perhaps, by that MO; we can remember, on just what plane, Evil once resided; and how/why now; Evil exists as mankind's evil brother. And by that regard; was/is. . .at least, Jesus the 'man's' brother; albeit, not Jesus the Christ.
Anyway; not a Mormon; but do not hold it against them; what seems an irrational interpretation; given the rationality and irrationality of things believed by Faith alone.
And now. . .if you got this far; you can scream/sigh/lol. . if you have not already. . .
I get that! And my point was. . .while I 'see that' and have thought - on occasion that Beck is in danger of 'losing himself' or just 'losing it'; that still, this does not come under any blanket on same shelf as 'Antichrist'. . .That is the deep end of an altogether different MO. And this author, seems to want to test the waters. . .
As to Obama being the Antichrist. . .well, say that in a manner of speaking; but no question his MO, comes close; damn close.
“O how you have fallen from heaven, you shining one, son of the dawn! How you have been cut down to the earth, you who were disabling the nations!
Real close MO here; and inasmuch as Obama himself; deliberately cultivates, what is his knowingly inauthentic 'aura' of messiahship; he does place himself in a direct 'Anti'- Christ line; if only in his imagination.
And we know there are 'those' out there' who do believe in fact, he is some version of the 'Second Coming'. . .if only a warm up act. . .
Well, think that a 'broad brush' that expands (and neutralizes, to some extent) what Howse is referencing here. Antichrist is heavy with meaning; when used 'in serious' against someone. You are saying; anyone not born again is 'anti-Christic' - period.
Have to say I put that ascription on same level those the Muslim make against those who do not believe in Koran; and so are reduced to being known as 'infidels' - and unequivocally so.
Do not believe all thought - pre born again - is anti-Christ in nature. No way would I accept that; save as an insult to God, perhaps.
To the contrary; believe we begin; as God's creation - metaphorically speaking - 'in the Garden'. That we rest in the 'good'; which is why; when we witness a heinous act; we first try to make ' Good sense' of what we see; believe to be unfolding. ("I thought a movie was being made; I cannot believe what I saw; I never imagined . ..etc. examples of evil stimulus and 'innocent' response). Resting in that good; we are torn from it daily. . .and often leave it by our own will and cognizance i.e. 'willful ignorance'. Faith restores us to that 'Good'.
IMHO; every deliverance from evil, IMHO;. . .is a born-again experience. But of course, there are more 'formalized' versions of this per Christian experience and acceptance - and Faith. And do not intend to diminish either per your own belief and/or experience.
Thanks; that makes two of us, I think. /sigh/lol. . .
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