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US takes over three Tylenol plants
CNNMoney.com ^ | March 10, 2011 | Parja Kavilanz

Posted on 03/10/2011 5:30:40 PM PST by MamaDearest

Excerpt only website: The government is taking over three Tylenol plants following a blizzard of drug recalls and a Food and Drug Administration criminal investigation into safety issues at the factories.

The FDA and the Justice Department on Thursday took action against McNeil PPC and two of its executives -- its vice president of quality and its vice president of operations for over-the-counter products -- for failing to comply with federally-mandated manufacturing practice.

McNeil, a division of Johnson & Johnson (JNJ, Fortune 500), said it had agreed to put its plants -- one in Las Piedras, Puerto Rico, one in Fort Washington, Pa. and one in Lancaster, Pa., under FDA supervision.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: acetaminophen; autos; banks; cirrhosis; drugs; fda; government; johnsonjohnson; liverfailure; mcneil; takeover; tylegov; tylenol
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1 posted on 03/10/2011 5:30:46 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest

I feel safer already.. yeah..


2 posted on 03/10/2011 5:32:51 PM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: MamaDearest
Well if you can't bail them into control, just take the company. I wonder if any Repubics will look into this. I doubt it.
4 posted on 03/10/2011 5:34:47 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: MamaDearest

I always wonder about the “back story” when I see these reports.

More government control is always my first thought.

Actually, Advil is my first choice of pain relievers. Then I go for the Merlot.


5 posted on 03/10/2011 5:36:49 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: MamaDearest

Quite a long article, but not a single word about what the problem was.

With these Communists in charge, another government takeover is not reassuring.

So, should we lay in a stock of ibuprofen and acetamenophen? Obama’s thugs will probably outsource it to China or something.


6 posted on 03/10/2011 5:37:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MamaDearest

Once the obama gubmint takes over, there really will be gubmint sanctioned poison in a bottle.


7 posted on 03/10/2011 5:37:52 PM PST by dforest
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To: MamaDearest

Here is funny story they can’t even figure out how to make tree bark safely (for story sake)


8 posted on 03/10/2011 5:39:07 PM PST by Flavius (A)
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To: Cicero
Sheesh, my warehouse is filling up with all of the things I have to stockpile before the gubbermint bans them. I am quite proud of my ammunition and incandescent light bulb collections.
9 posted on 03/10/2011 5:41:58 PM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: Rushmore Rocks; Cicero; Mmogamer
For what its worth:

Where is aspirin made?

Is there any aspirin made in the U.S. with American ingredients?
An expose in the New York Times Magazine (Nov. 2, 2008) revealed that there are no major generic aspirin manufacturers in Europe or the U.S. Most aspirin is now made in China.

10 posted on 03/10/2011 5:43:04 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Never on my watch
I am quite proud of my ammunition and incandescent light bulb collections.

You're on the right track. Don't forget TP, it's a necessity. Remember when we could buy it in colors to match our bathrooms?

11 posted on 03/10/2011 5:47:48 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest

What ISN’T coming from China? Lots of drugs come from other countries and we don’t know what the hell we’re getting. At one time I was getting meds from Drugstore.com and I noticed almost every time they come from a different country. I’m sure the cost had something to do with it but I still did not like it.


12 posted on 03/10/2011 5:49:12 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: Rushmore Rocks
Actually, Advil is my first choice of pain relievers. Then I go for the Merlot.

Depends on the time of day. After 5pm: gin or vodka always works.

13 posted on 03/10/2011 5:49:43 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: MamaDearest

Maybe the years-ago Tylenol “tampering” on a store shelf wasn’t a “tampering” at all?


14 posted on 03/10/2011 5:50:12 PM PST by Does so (Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Well, Johnson and Johnson weren’t doing a very good job of it. I can’t believe the quality problems they have had recently, some of them pretty serious - a friend of mine on insulin was threatened with their quality problems. Why heads aren’t rolling all over the place there, I don’t know.

At least with government control, they will probably make stuff that costs a lot and doesn’t actually do anything.


15 posted on 03/10/2011 5:52:43 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Cicero

the corrupt biased media have no clue about facts anymore.
They like to write pieces with no back ups, then demean anyone who does not agree with them.
beck might be over the top at times but he does use their words against them where as our wonderful corrupt media just writes and the sheep follow.


16 posted on 03/10/2011 5:53:21 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: MamaDearest

Oh believe me, I have the TP. When you really need that, the price of gold will not matter.


17 posted on 03/10/2011 5:54:34 PM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

“Lots of drugs come from other countries and we don’t know what the hell we’re getting. “

It’s especially embarrassing that our ILLEGAL drugs aren’t even made here anymore - big Mexican meth labs undercut our tiny mom-and-pop operations.

Can’t we make ANYTHING here anymore?


18 posted on 03/10/2011 5:55:46 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: DTogo

I;m using a screwdriver right now.

Works wonders just before bed.


19 posted on 03/10/2011 5:56:21 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: The Antiyuppie

If they did, it would be found illegal because they didn’t follow 0’s agenda.


20 posted on 03/10/2011 6:00:48 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Yeah. I don’t think there really is an answer. Ultimately it comes down to “who will watch the watchers” and “who will oversee the overseers”. Eventually, at the end of the line, the answer is “nobody”.

Believing that FDA inspectors can’t be bribed to look the other way is as naive as believing that corporations will never take shortcuts to improve their bottom line.

The question, it seems to me, is which belief will, generally, lead to greater freedom for everyone in the long run. People would have eventually stopped buying J&J products thus self-policing the industry. Now you have a third layer of gov’t parasites in the way. Not sure that there is a definitive answer to this problem.


21 posted on 03/10/2011 6:01:58 PM PST by PhilosopherStone1000
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To: MamaDearest

I remember colored TP.......also colored Kleenex.

Heck, I even remember when all Band Aids were white.

Guess I’m old.


22 posted on 03/10/2011 6:02:48 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Cicero
J&J/McNeil has had a nightmarish problem with quality control for the last couple of years. This move is, unfortunately, necessary. You simply cannot allow a company to knowing sell contaminated drugs. They have been unable to meet bare minimum industry standards and as such they had to have someone come in and prevent a serious problem.
23 posted on 03/10/2011 6:08:42 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: MamaDearest

Brew yourself some willow bark tea instead.


24 posted on 03/10/2011 6:22:47 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: holdonnow; HonestConservative; kristinn; socialismisinsidious

FYI


25 posted on 03/10/2011 6:36:38 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray. For all the latest, check out: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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To: Rushmore Rocks
Advil is my first choice of pain relievers. Then I go for the Merlot.

I don't know about the Advil but combining Tylenol and alcohol is a recipe for disaster. I know of someone who did that and died as a result.

26 posted on 03/10/2011 6:49:50 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

I know. I’ve read the same reports. Tylenol and liquor is a bad combination.

I don’t think a couple of glasses of Merlot per week will do me much harm.....and possibly, some good.


27 posted on 03/10/2011 7:11:37 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: MamaDearest

What we need is a total ban on the manufacture of acetominofen.

There is no reason to use it; asperin is safer and more effective.


28 posted on 03/10/2011 7:18:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

>> “Actually, Advil is my first choice of pain relievers. Then I go for the Merlot.” <<

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At least you’ll die happy.


29 posted on 03/10/2011 7:19:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Rushmore Rocks
We bought that product back then. There are now striking wild new colors available for purchase on the internet. Here's when it "disappeared:"

Health concerns with colored toilet paper

Snip: The FDA and the Department of Health and Human Services placed a ban on dyes used in the coloration of toilet paper in 1987 due to an increased risk of cancer in laboratory animals. I

30 posted on 03/10/2011 7:20:31 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest
An expose in the New York Times Magazine (Nov. 2, 2008) revealed that there are no major generic aspirin manufacturers in Europe or the U.S. Most aspirin is now made in China.

Once upon a time, back in the sixties, all of the aspirin consumed in the United States was made at a single plant -- at Dow Chemical in Midland, MI

Aspirin is, literally, aspirin -- acetylsalycilic acid. Most of it was stamped Bayer, some of it was stamped St. Joseph...and the rest was blank, sold as private label product.

31 posted on 03/10/2011 7:21:18 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: editor-surveyor
There is no reason to use it; asperin is safer and more effective.

I'm allergic to regular aspirin. Acetaminophen has long been the alternative to aspirin.

32 posted on 03/10/2011 7:24:02 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Rushmore Rocks

No, reasonable consumption of alcohol is actually good for you. In my latest issue of a newsletter from the Department of Psychiatry, Massachusetts General Hospital, “Mind, Mood, and Memory, it is pointed out that daily consumption of a 4-ounce glass of red wine is associated with greater cognitive performance and lower risk of dementia.


33 posted on 03/10/2011 7:25:22 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: MamaDearest

Those “gol dern” laboratory animals have taken all the fun out of life.


34 posted on 03/10/2011 7:25:48 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

It begins by returning to the intent of a jury of twelve. Every HIGH SCHOOL graduate should be required to pass a grad exam in law, certified to take and handle their OWN cases through the legal process.


35 posted on 03/10/2011 7:26:49 PM PST by Varsity Flight
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To: okie01; ExTexasRedhead; blackie
Once upon a time, back in the sixties, all of the aspirin consumed in the United States was made at a single plant -- at Dow Chemical in Midland, MI

American jobs and American safety procedures, what a concept! All the talk about corporate greed while unions have skated in their responsibility to keep costs down and employees working in the USA. The teeter totter with union responsibility for their part in the financial unraveling of America's states, cities and businesses has just landed on the ground with a resounding loud thud.

36 posted on 03/10/2011 7:29:58 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: OldPossum
....combining Tylenol and alcohol is a recipe for disaster. I know of someone who did that and died as a result.

I hadn't heard that about combining Tylenol and liquor, but I do know if you have high blood pressure you are not supposed to take Advil. Tylenol seems to be the pain med of choice for that condition.

37 posted on 03/10/2011 7:33:04 PM PST by mupcat
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To: OldPossum

My 94 year-old father drinks two glasses of red wine each and every night.....and has for years. It helps him sleep and he has no dementia.

It certainly works for him.

Now, if I could just stop him from chasing all the elderly widows at his “luxurious retirement home”......and them chasing him! When I took him for his last exam at the Dr., he actually asked for a Viagra prescription!


38 posted on 03/10/2011 7:38:32 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Hmmm. 94 years of age, huh. Did he get the prescription?


39 posted on 03/10/2011 7:41:08 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: MamaDearest
GM (Government Medicine) introduces new and improved green aspirin: Like aspirin, only an unsustainable, wind-powered loss leader. And green.

So good, it's mandatory.

40 posted on 03/10/2011 7:44:01 PM PST by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (Incidentally, one can get beaten up in school simply by referring to oneself as one.)
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To: mupcat

Check with your doctor. It’s true.

My friend had many problems and was depressed. She nevertheless consumed lots of alcohol and took Tylenol for her constant headaches. I warned her time and again but no avail.

She eventually died of acute liver failure. Not a good way to go.


41 posted on 03/10/2011 7:45:02 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: editor-surveyor

No reason for Tylenol unless you’re allergic to aspirin though I have found Tylenol effective sometimes when ibuprofen would not do anything for my headache/pain. I admit I did not try aspirin when the Advil didn’t work.


42 posted on 03/10/2011 7:46:39 PM PST by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: Rushmore Rocks
My 94 year-old father drinks two glasses of red wine each and every night.....and has for years. It helps him sleep and he has no dementia.

It certainly works for him.

Now, if I could just stop him from chasing all the elderly widows at his “luxurious retirement home”......and them chasing him! When I took him for his last exam at the Dr., he actually asked for a Viagra prescription!

Finally, I have a realistic role model to aspire to. Outstanding.

43 posted on 03/10/2011 7:48:33 PM PST by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (Incidentally, one can get beaten up in school simply by referring to oneself as one.)
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To: OldPossum

Actually, no, he didn’t. Our family doctor (for the past 20 years) laughed and told him to get some body lotion and a vibrator. My dear old dad is quite a character and often the talk of the town....much to my embarrassment. But, he lives live (what few years he has left) to the fullest. And I won’t deny him that. He is amazing.


44 posted on 03/10/2011 7:52:16 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Rushmore Rocks

live=life


45 posted on 03/10/2011 7:54:45 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Rushmore Rocks
"I remember colored TP.......also colored Kleenex. Heck, I even remember when all Band Aids were white. Guess I’m old."

Wow, I'd forgotten all about colored TP and tissues. I guess since I've lived in houses with septic systems much of my life, I never got into the habit of buying colored TP and didn't realize it was no longer available. I suppose colored TP and tissues aren't 'green', even if they are green . . .

If you want to feel old, try putting a dial phone in front of a teenager and watch them figure out how to use it.

46 posted on 03/10/2011 8:09:27 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: Rushmore Rocks
"My 94 year-old father drinks two glasses of red wine each and every night.....and has for years. It helps him sleep and he has no dementia."

My dad is 90, and mom is 85. They are sharp and continue to live in the house they've lived in since 1959. They also continue to enjoy their beer and wine.

47 posted on 03/10/2011 8:18:45 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: MamaDearest

Its not a very good alternative; its dangerous at very low dosages.


48 posted on 03/10/2011 8:30:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: OldPossum

Thanks OP, no I believe you. Yes, it’s a horrible way to die.


49 posted on 03/10/2011 8:38:19 PM PST by mupcat
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To: okie01

Actually, that is not totally correct. The history of aspirin is really complicated. Monsanto started making aspirin in 1917 in St. Louis, because the USA could not get aspirin due to the war (as it was invented and produced by Germany’s Bayer).

Due to the war, Bayer lost the trademarks and it started to be produced in the UK and other parts of the world. Monsanto’s plant was the largest manufacturing factory in the world (at the JF Queeny Plant) in downtown St. Louis.

Dow was the major competitor in the USA and was building a new plant in Midland in 1985, I believe(I don’t know the history of this new plant —if there are Dow people that know, it would be interesting). There were other competitors like Sterling (Bayer in the USA, but not related to the name of same company in Germany).

Monsanto got out of the aspirin business in 1989 and their plants in the UK, St.Louis and Thailand, was sold to the world’s largest aspirin manufacturer, Rhone Poulenc. That plant has long been shutdown (2001. However, Rhone Poulenc was sold off (now part of Sanofi), but the aspirin (and acetaminophen—APAP) part was spun off as a new French company Rhodia...and they sill produce aspirin and APAP around the world, including in China and, I believe, Thailand.

I believe Rhodia may have also bought Dow’s business, but I am not sure when and if the midland Michigan plant was shutdown. It was complicated and I lost track of who is who now in the aspirin producing world. For a while the USA Bayer moved their plant to Mexico, but do not know if it is still in operation.


50 posted on 03/10/2011 9:23:57 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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