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Obama plan unifies Defense, Homeland Security response (martial law preparation?)
The Examiner ^ | 3/11/11 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 03/11/2011 2:10:22 PM PST by tutstar

The U.S. Secretary of Defense yesterday announced that he's agreed to a plan that will allow one military commander to be in charge of both State National Guard and each military branch's reserve forces when they are deployed to respond to domestic emergencies including terrorist attacks, according to Lisa Daniel of the American Forces Press Service.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates, along with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Council of Governors -- a group President Barack Obama formed in January 2010 to represent all of the states' governors -- signed off on the agreement, known as the Joint Action Plan, during a March 1 Pentagon meeting, Ms. Daniel reported in a statement obtained by the 14,000-member National Association of Chiefs of Police.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bloat; councilofgovernors; cw2; gates; jap; jointactionplan; lawenforcement; martiallaw; napolitano; obama; obamanation; stockpilesong
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However, some conservatives and libertarians believe this is not a plan to be celebrated, but one that should be closely examined on many levels including the constitutionality of having military forces operating within the United States.

"The plan may sound good on its surface, but it brings up a lot of questions by law enforcement officials and other first responders (firefighters, emergency medical personnel, etc.)," said former police lieutenant Steve Rodgers, who has headed homeland security operations

1 posted on 03/11/2011 2:10:31 PM PST by tutstar
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To: tutstar

Operation Crush Whitey.

LLS


2 posted on 03/11/2011 2:11:57 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: tutstar

Long past time to clean out and fumigate the White Hut!


3 posted on 03/11/2011 2:13:29 PM PST by IbJensen (Grab your pitchforks!)
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To: tutstar

Obama’s “plan” is to completely destroy this nation, he has nearly completed his “mission”.


4 posted on 03/11/2011 2:14:13 PM PST by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: tutstar

More illegal acts by the most anti-american administration in the history of the nation.


5 posted on 03/11/2011 2:15:11 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: tutstar

Police state here we come. Obama is a wannabe NAZI DICKtator.


6 posted on 03/11/2011 2:15:39 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: tutstar

It’s also distraction time to kill any publicity of Wisconsin.


7 posted on 03/11/2011 2:15:40 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: tutstar

Are National Guard units not under control of the governors of their states?


8 posted on 03/11/2011 2:19:15 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: tutstar

As I recall, one of the problems with Katrina was that it was the call of the Governor of Louisiana if she wanted to immobilize the National Guard, which she didn’t do but Bush was blamed for derelection of duty. Wonder if this new policy was discussed with and had the blessings of the Governors during their recent meeting. Interesting that this new policy would come out after their meeting. With so many new Republican governors there has to be some fallout over this - one would hope. We have seen how Janet manages terrorist problems-just take a look at Fort Hood and the Mexico/U.S. Border - but then those weren’t white folks.


9 posted on 03/11/2011 2:21:24 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Yes, on a day-to-day basis. However, the President can “Federalize” them with a stroke of a pen.


10 posted on 03/11/2011 2:22:58 PM PST by Perdogg (What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
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To: tutstar; All
"Obama plan unifies Defense, Homeland Security response (martial law preparation?)"


11 posted on 03/11/2011 2:23:13 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: exnavy

0 scares me! so do Pelosi, Reid, etc


12 posted on 03/11/2011 2:23:17 PM PST by tutstar
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To: tutstar
Consolidation of powers is a necessary step to achieve totalitarian control.

Imagine a world run by control-freaks.

13 posted on 03/11/2011 2:23:25 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: tutstar

Preparing for a hot war between the working taxpayers and the freeloafing welfare cases and public “workers”.

His liberal army is set on destroying America as we have known it.


14 posted on 03/11/2011 2:24:32 PM PST by soycd
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To: Don Corleone

Yet there seems to be no HOPE of CHANGING this mess!

My young black neighbor was wearing this shirt the other day...

http://www.zazzle.com/anti_obama_so_far_he_sucks_funny_political_tshirt-235305996600496961

I was floored! You know he’s in trouble when the ‘base’ that’s on the dole isn’t happy with him. He needs a disaster to completely take over. That’s what worries me about not securing the souther border. One dirty nuke is all he needs.


15 posted on 03/11/2011 2:25:45 PM PST by tutstar
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To: tutstar


16 posted on 03/11/2011 2:25:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: tutstar

Anyone who understands liberals knows what they’d love to do with this power.


17 posted on 03/11/2011 2:26:37 PM PST by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: tutstar
(martial law preparation?)

They've been preparing this for over thirty years. See REX-84

18 posted on 03/11/2011 2:27:00 PM PST by Roninf5-1 (If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)
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To: tutstar

There is no good in this.


19 posted on 03/11/2011 2:28:06 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: LibLieSlayer

If so, there will be a lot of BROWN stains across the landscape.( and I don’t mean $hit )


20 posted on 03/11/2011 2:28:54 PM PST by Renegade
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To: tutstar

In other news, Obama admin starts to paint the White House...black.


21 posted on 03/11/2011 2:29:43 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: exnavy

I have no doubt that as soon as she announces, Eric Holder’s Black Panthers, or some other group being recruited to the “Obama Street Army” will make an organized strike against Sarah Palin, and her family. They either will or will attempt to assassinate her.
They know that this will bring conservatives, and Tea Party members (redundant in most cases) to the street. It will be at that point martial law will be declared, and the unionized police forces will join with the part of the military that has been infiltrated (see Ft. Hood) against those in the street. At that point it becomes a matter of what the rest of the country will do.
It’s kind of a tossup. Would the rest of the military join with conservatives? What would “Joe Six” pack do? The future of America will be dependent upon the answer to those and a couple of other variables, however suffice to say it won’t be pretty, and it may be the end for us as a free republic.
I look forward to other opinions on this scenario.


22 posted on 03/11/2011 2:29:50 PM PST by rikkir (I had to show my BC to play Little League, he should have to show his to be President!)
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To: tutstar; All

One day I listened to Michael Scheuer (author of Osama Bin Landen) on the Michael Medved show. Michael Scheuer said if he get hit again, Obama is going to make Bush look like a member of of ACLU.


23 posted on 03/11/2011 2:30:04 PM PST by KevinDavis (Radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS.)
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To: tutstar
HELL NO!

Defense Secretary Robert Gates, along with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Council of Governors -- a group President Barack Obama formed in January 2010 to represent all of the states' governors -- signed off on the agreement, known as the Joint Action Plan...

This 'council' created by 0zero is but a shadow government body not beholden to the people and not representative of the people. They simply exist to give an air of credibility to the incredible and rubber stamp whatever dear leader marxist 0zero wants accomplished.

The legislature needs to reign in this tyrant now!

24 posted on 03/11/2011 2:35:52 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Perdogg

Thank you for the clarification.


25 posted on 03/11/2011 2:36:06 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: tutstar
Someone needs to educate DumBO on Posse Comitatus.
26 posted on 03/11/2011 2:40:18 PM PST by 444Flyer ("...Rather the scorned- the rejected -the men hemmed in with the spears..." from 'A Consecration')
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To: tutstar

I am curious now how this move meshes with this:

“Obama Changes Order of Succession for Intelligence

WASHINGTON (CN) - President Obama has issued an Executive Order altering the order of succession in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
The previous order of succession should the director die or otherwise be unable to fulfill the duties of the office was the Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Management, followed by Deputy Director for Collection, then Deputy Director for Analysis.
Obama’s order changes this to emphasize domestic intelligence and counter-terrorism by making the Deputy Director for Intelligence Integration first in line to succeed the Director followed by the Director of the National Counterterrorism Center and then the National Counterintelligence Executive.
The Director of National Intelligence reports directly to the president and all intelligence gathering agencies, outside of the military, report to the Director of National Intelligence.
Click the document icon for this regulation and others.”

http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/03/10/34830.htm


27 posted on 03/11/2011 2:46:34 PM PST by epithermal
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To: tutstar

During his 1945 election campaign Churchill stated that: “...a socialist policy is abhorrent to the British ideas of freedom. Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the object worship of the state. It will prescribe for every one where they are to work, what they are to work at, where they may go and what they may say. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. No socialist system can be established without a political police. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance.”


28 posted on 03/11/2011 2:47:24 PM PST by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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To: tutstar
Ever since ‘bummer made a statement, nonchalantly, last year, referring to the possibility of a terrorist nuclear attack: “America can withstand a nuclear attack” I have had a VERY uneasy feeling that he and his handlers would, without blinking an eye, commit the mother of all ‘Wag-the-Dog’ incidents, should they feel they are losing their grip on the destruction of this country - and use it to declare Martial Law.

I fear most for the period in 2012 from 6 months prior to elections on. Martial Law gives the pres TOTAL control, shuts down the Congress for 6 months (a congress he now would like to shut down - we have just seen, in Wisconsin, a stark example of how these despots have NO respect for the rule of law. If they can't win, like they were able to do before the 2010 elections, they will do whatever it takes to rule.

They feel they have the right.

I am amazed and a bit both heartened and alarmed at the tens of thousands of Americans who are preparing for ‘survival’ as too food, gardens, defense against what they feel may well be coming.

I'm a great grandmother. I have NEVER seen this level of concern. Now I’m wondering if such preparations might be prudent. And if so, our window of opportunity may close sometime around May of 2012.

Would someone please assure me, with facts, why we should not worry?

29 posted on 03/11/2011 2:47:29 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: Soothesayer9

30 posted on 03/11/2011 2:51:37 PM PST by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And yet we can’t get people to call their congress critters !


31 posted on 03/11/2011 2:54:09 PM PST by tutstar
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To: tutstar
Is this another thing nobama has just done w/out regard to the constitution or Congress? Like when he decided to fire the CEO of General Motors.
32 posted on 03/11/2011 2:54:43 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Operation Crush Whitey.

Wasn't that South Park episode?

33 posted on 03/11/2011 2:57:40 PM PST by glorgau
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To: tutstar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZoErMxDPoQ

Remember - he let the cat out of the bag - the ‘scenario’ may have been delayed a bit - since, after the election, they had such iron-clad control they felt they could cement their coup without a ‘generated crisis”

Now with the comeuppance of the 2010 elections, and their wings clipped a bit, they may be getting ready to move.

The ‘crisis’ will be made to appear ‘generated’ from outside the country - but “Mark My Words” - it will not, not if traced back to it's roots.

These Socialists have, in all the decades they have been fighting to take over this country, never been as close as they've gotten in the last 2 years. They are not going to meekly submit to the rule of law and the will of the people.

They know that if they lose this time - which it looks quite possible now, particularly with the growing defeat of the unions - which ‘bummer, in 2017 campaign, promised SEIU they would rule the country - they are NOT going to go away quietly as they know, if defeated this time, it's their death knell.

Prepare to fight. Prepare to be self sufficient and Pray harder than you ever have.

34 posted on 03/11/2011 3:02:12 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: tutstar
That’s what worries me about not securing the souther border. One dirty nuke is all he needs.

I suspicion the dirty n. is already in country - and under our 'enemy domestics' care until deemed needed.

If it happens - never believe their story line on it.

35 posted on 03/11/2011 3:06:52 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: maine-iac7

agree


36 posted on 03/11/2011 3:09:17 PM PST by tutstar
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To: maine-iac7

“2017”

OOPS = 2007


37 posted on 03/11/2011 3:13:41 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: maine-iac7

“2017”

OOPS = 2007


38 posted on 03/11/2011 3:14:26 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: rikkir

I’ll give my opinion as soon as I find my misplaced roll of tinfoil.


39 posted on 03/11/2011 3:15:23 PM PST by kickonly88 (I love fossil fuel!)
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To: tutstar

The revolution continues comrades.


40 posted on 03/11/2011 3:17:21 PM PST by ripley
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To: ripley
ACLU Demands Information On Military Deployment Within U.S. Borders [October, '08]
41 posted on 03/11/2011 3:39:04 PM PST by greyfoxx39 ("Take a look around this country. Outside the Beltway, we are all Jews now." Stuart Schwartz)
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To: Renegade
If so, there will be a lot of BROWN stains across the landscape.( and I don’t mean $hit )

Some of us melanin-enriched conservatives worry about that...

42 posted on 03/11/2011 3:43:35 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: tutstar
I was budgeting in that tactical rifle, but I might have to cut a few more costs to get it sooner. YIKES!!!!
43 posted on 03/11/2011 3:46:16 PM PST by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: tutstar
well, DHS does believe that the biggest terrorist threats are conservative Christians with guns.
44 posted on 03/11/2011 3:47:16 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: Windflier

My wife is melanin enriched ( Italian) .We will know who the good guys and bad guys are .The bad guys shoot sideways .


45 posted on 03/11/2011 3:49:50 PM PST by Renegade
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To: nerdwithagun

Did you see the new Bushmaster tactical rifle in .556? $ 1900.00. Start saving . Springfield .308 is sweet also .


46 posted on 03/11/2011 3:53:03 PM PST by Renegade
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To: rikkir

“Would the rest of the military join with conservatives? “

It’s not joining conservatives that matters.

If Gen. Stupid goosesteps through Huntington Beach and Orange County, killing the families of Marines, how will Gen Stupid deal with the 1st Marine Division pouring out of Camp Pendleton while getting bombed and strafed by the 3rd Marine Air Wing?

There are no clear frontlines. If some gestapo cop kills the wife of an Air Force General in Podunk, Iowa, that general might call in an air strike to level the city that cop lives in.

King obuma has no cards to play. He has the fat welfare mommas, a small contingent of bed-wetting college kids and 50 IQ rappers who can’t hold a glock straight.

You want to talk about a possible scenario, consider this: It’s a clear and straight shot up I-95 for the 2nd Marine Division to destroy Washington DC and kill everyone there.

I think people on this thread need to back off, quit panicking like little girls and stop reading comicbooks.


47 posted on 03/11/2011 4:13:40 PM PST by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: Renegade

Oh, the ACR? Bushmaster’s “future gun” like the FN SCAR or HK XM8? For me it is an AR or AK. All of those look great but they are too expensive for me and you could replace the upper on a regular AR. I am praying the military adapts something more powerful then the 5.56 Rem.


48 posted on 03/11/2011 4:20:20 PM PST by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


49 posted on 03/11/2011 4:23:39 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: tutstar; All
---let's not forget this recent little tidbit of related news recently discussed on several FR topics:

Obama Is Sending Border Officers from DHS to Help Secure Afghan-Pakistan Border

At first glance it would appear that 0zero seeks to co-opt the military and change it from an grassroots allegiance to Constitution to a political party in power central allegiance...

50 posted on 03/11/2011 4:40:16 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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