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City agrees to lower test scores for police exam
http://www.daytondailynews.com/ ^ | Thursday, March 10, 2011 | Lucas Sullivan, Staff Writer

Posted on 03/11/2011 8:11:55 PM PST by B4Ranch

DAYTON — The city’s Civil Service Board and the U.S. Department of Justice have agreed on a lower passing score for the police recruit exam after it was rejected because not enough blacks passed the exam.

The city lowered both written exams a combined 15 points that resulted in 258 more people passing the exam, according to a statement released Thursday by Civil Service officials. The agreement allows the city to immediately resume its plans to hire police and firefighters.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: dayton; ericholderspeople; ohio; police; reverseracism; tnb
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When liberals see an inequity or an inequality, what do they do?

They do not seek to elevate those at the lower end; they seek to take those at the top, bring them down and punish them.

1 posted on 03/11/2011 8:12:01 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch

This reminds me of a line from the movie 1941.
“Oh my God,they gave him a gun!”


2 posted on 03/11/2011 8:14:09 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: B4Ranch
Punish the innocent, reward the guilty.
3 posted on 03/11/2011 8:14:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: B4Ranch
They are taking a really good approach here ...

... if you really want to **** up society.

And they do.

4 posted on 03/11/2011 8:14:26 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: B4Ranch

What is the point of having an exam?


5 posted on 03/11/2011 8:15:55 PM PST by allmost
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To: B4Ranch

Lower the bar and people will eventually reach it.


6 posted on 03/11/2011 8:16:17 PM PST by umgud
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To: allmost

What are the ramifications of those ‘policed’?


7 posted on 03/11/2011 8:17:07 PM PST by allmost
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To: allmost

To find out who is stupid enough to never leave.


8 posted on 03/11/2011 8:17:35 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: B4Ranch

Seems like a good reason to avoid Dayton for a vacation stop over.


9 posted on 03/11/2011 8:18:34 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: B4Ranch

“The utopian schemes of leveling and a community of goods, are as visionary and impractical as those which vest all property in the crown. These ideas are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government unconstitutional.”
— Samuel Adams

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”
— James Madison


10 posted on 03/11/2011 8:18:58 PM PST by tumblindice (Me? Just stirrin' the pot)
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To: B4Ranch

So, is there not a video of a little white boy screaming, “That’s racist!”?


11 posted on 03/11/2011 8:19:26 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: B4Ranch
Not surprising from a place where they had layoff 11 police officers two years ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2289440/posts

12 posted on 03/11/2011 8:20:15 PM PST by greatdefender (If You Want Peace.....Prepare For War)
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To: B4Ranch

It is incredible how public safety doesn’t even enter the discussion; I was watching an interview with a black fireman candidate who had his results tossed along with the other (mostly-white) candidates who were at the top with him. He was understandably upset; he was treated like the “white devils” because he had studied and done very well, and now wouldn’t be hired because the list was tossed.

The soft bigotry of lowered expectations; I was in a precinct in Newark NJ and couldn’t believe the size of the fat asses on the female (all minority) officers. They would never apprehend anyone; in fact, they probably never left the building. I’d like to think that dead wood was among the many laid off by Newark’s mayor; those cuts would impact minorities worst because those jobs were closed to whites in the surrounding suburbs (due to residency requirements). At the same time, those suburbs had to open THEIR exams to Newark residents as part of an NAACP lawsuit settlement.

I like watching Newark crumble from a safe distance...the suburbs are filled with people whose parents were chased out of there after the riots.


13 posted on 03/11/2011 8:20:40 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: eyedigress

Police powers to intentional substandard thugs sounds a bit ‘third world’.


14 posted on 03/11/2011 8:20:45 PM PST by allmost
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To: B4Ranch

Miami did this some years back - hired a bunch of police officers in a hurry to get grant money or some such thing... it was a disaster. Lower standards means more problems... lots more.


15 posted on 03/11/2011 8:21:37 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: eyedigress

What Does Peter Principle Mean?
An observation that in an organizational hierarchy, every employee will rise or get promoted to his or her level of incompetence. The Peter Principle is based on the notion that employees will get promoted as long as they are competent, but at some point will fail to get promoted beyond a certain job because it has become too challenging for them. Employees rise to their level of incompetence and stay there. Over time, every position in the hierarchy will be filled by someone who is not competent enough to carry out his or her new duties.


16 posted on 03/11/2011 8:21:46 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: allmost

To hope for the best: no honkies show up so 100% of the top scorers are black & Latino. Once that fails, go to plan B (and then on to plan C, etc.)


17 posted on 03/11/2011 8:22:23 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: B4Ranch

Great, so now they have a bunch of illiterate with guns roaming the streets.


18 posted on 03/11/2011 8:23:02 PM PST by oldbrowser (Blaming the prince of fools shouldn't blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that elected him)
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To: allmost

I was actually serious about my post. The lower the score, the higher the comfort zone. It decreases turnover yet you take your chances on thuggery and corruption. It is quite a pathetic approach to retainment.


19 posted on 03/11/2011 8:25:04 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: B4Ranch

Maybe they’ll do a TV show! Police Morons of Dayton...


20 posted on 03/11/2011 8:26:06 PM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: kearnyirish2

Too many whites. The test is racist.


21 posted on 03/11/2011 8:29:16 PM PST by allmost
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To: Bronzy

I believe departments everywhere have done this for the last 30 years. I recall people being denied a chance to serve because their scores were too HIGH.


22 posted on 03/11/2011 8:29:25 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: B4Ranch
hmph.
I just don't even know what to say anymore...
23 posted on 03/11/2011 8:29:25 PM PST by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: GOPJ

Many municipalities don’t want to accept fed or state funds to hire new employees or build new schools because in a very short time the costs will make them regret it. The brick & mortar of the new school, or the salary of the rookie cop, is not the problem; the problem becomes the teachers’ salaries and the cop’s a few years (VERY FEW years) down the road. The teacher tenure is the kiss of death, and when “outside” funding dries up you have a scenario like NJ, where taxpayers are literally being driven out of the state by property taxes completely out of proportion to services received. The sanctity of tenure and pay increases can’t be challenged, so everything else (police, fire, public works, etc.) gets cut to accomodate the teachers. The fact that Newark, Jersey City, Camden, and Paterson laid off so many police officers while their teachers are sitting pretty says it all; they have become NJ’s “upper middle class” (replacing the former upper middle class, composed of many professionals working in the financial and pharmaceutical sectors until those jobs started leaving).


24 posted on 03/11/2011 8:29:42 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: oldbrowser

That is what they want. Just someone who will do as they are told and crack skulls when ordered. Care to guess whose skulls they are going to be ordered to crack?


25 posted on 03/11/2011 8:29:43 PM PST by sport
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To: B4Ranch
So, the department needed to replace “dozens of retirees”, dozens, say that might be 50 or so and they had 490 applicants that passed the exam under the original scoring conditions - that's probably 1 hire for each 10 passing applicants. But justice forced them to dumb down the grades so that 1 in 15 were eligible???

What's happening to our proud country??

26 posted on 03/11/2011 8:31:38 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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To: B4Ranch
So, the department needed to replace “dozens of retirees”, dozens, say that might be 50 or so and they had 490 applicants that passed the exam under the original scoring conditions - that's probably 1 hire for each 10 passing applicants. But justice forced them to dumb down the grades so that 1 in 15 were eligible???

What's happening to our proud country??

27 posted on 03/11/2011 8:31:47 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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To: allmost
“What are the ramifications of those ‘policed’?”

Oh, probably higher crime. More pOlice corruption. Higher homeowners insurance. Much more ‘diversity’ in the pOlice Dept. And it keeps the west side of Dayton quiet for the next couple of years. But I am sure there will be another racial problem arise soon to keep the community organizers busy.

28 posted on 03/11/2011 8:32:34 PM PST by Tupelo (The Boudicca from Wasilla supporter)
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To: allmost

These policies validate the Klan’s contentions that some ethnic groups are inferior to others, and women are inferior to men; rather than a hick in a hood, our own government is publicly stating this as the law of the land by legislating/permitting these policies.

The “protected” groups should no longer be considered inferior when they themselves vocally oppose these demeaning (though highly profitable) policies.


29 posted on 03/11/2011 8:33:03 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
“It is incredible how public safety doesn’t even enter the discussion...”

An acquaintance was a fireman in a town north of Boston. He retired ASAP back in the mid-1990’s. Why? Because the minorities that were being hired were clearly unqualified (”f**king retarted” was the exact phrase he used to describe the ones he was forced to work with) and he could not rely on them for his safety while on the job.

Public safety? A joke, like everything else has become.

30 posted on 03/11/2011 8:34:53 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: B4Ranch
"Hey! Let's have dumber cops!"


31 posted on 03/11/2011 8:35:56 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: kearnyirish2

I very rarely disconnect from the first sentence of a post. I just did.


32 posted on 03/11/2011 8:37:06 PM PST by allmost
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To: Tupelo

The point here. IMO.


33 posted on 03/11/2011 8:38:22 PM PST by allmost
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To: GOPsterinMA

I don’t take any “protected” minority or woman seriously until they prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that their ethnicity or genitalia wasn’t the reason they are in their position; while it is nice to deal with competent people from those groups, you’d be shocked how many are simply useless tokens hired as charity (or to protect against lawsuits). I’ve always found that when you go straight to the “non-protected” people, you get results; they actually earned their position, and often have to really produce to avoid having another token replace them. Even the tokens and their keepers know SOMEBODY has to do the real work...


34 posted on 03/11/2011 8:39:49 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: eyedigress
Yes, and I cannot get a job because I am not bilingual - aka Mexican .
35 posted on 03/11/2011 8:40:54 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: allmost

?


36 posted on 03/11/2011 8:41:07 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: B4Ranch

So when they dumb it down far enough where everyone passes, what will they then use as a criteria for hiring? Skin color?


37 posted on 03/11/2011 8:41:54 PM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: B4Ranch
A message regarding the new Civil Service exams.

To all individuals of Caucasian descent:

How can you be so racially insensitive as to score higher than people of color?

Don't you know that the racially sensitive thing to do would be to answer several questions incorrectly to lower your score?

That is why from this day forward, any Caucasian scoring over a 90% on the exam will be automatically disqualified for demonstrating racial insensitivity, a quality we will not tolerate in the civil service.

38 posted on 03/11/2011 8:43:09 PM PST by apillar
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To: B4Ranch

Pray for America.


39 posted on 03/11/2011 8:43:34 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: B4Ranch

Need we ask, of those passing the exam, who are more equal? I think the answer is obvious, and the hiring will of course reflect the same.

Doesn’t Costa Rica sound good?


40 posted on 03/11/2011 8:44:25 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Bronzy

That bilingual requirement has spread through much of the private sector here in NJ; everything from restaurants/bars to supermarkets to realtors to telemarketers to bank tellers. Anything dealing with the public, since many Americans are leaving the state anyway, now requires Spanish or sometimes Portuguese (due to the Brazilian numbers); without that second language, don’t even bother applying. Surely not a good sign for the blacks in NJ, either.


41 posted on 03/11/2011 8:44:54 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

Thank You. It puzzles me as well.


42 posted on 03/11/2011 8:44:58 PM PST by allmost
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To: Hoodat
So when they dumb it down far enough where everyone passes, what will they then use as a criteria for hiring? Skin color?

Umm, that's what they are doing already.
The "exam" is simply a cover story. It's (obviously) meaningless.

43 posted on 03/11/2011 8:46:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: allmost

You don’t find that these policies are basically a government statement to the effect that people from certain ethnic groups, as well as females, are inferior to other ethnic groups, as well as males? I think it clearly states that a black or Hispanic cannot compete with a Caucasian or Asian on these tests. What else could be derived from the policy? They validated the Klan’s claim to racial superiority; it is now the law of the land.


44 posted on 03/11/2011 8:48:24 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: B4Ranch

Whenever I see this kind of race hustle I have to wonder if the white populations of the effected parasite nests (”cities”) scratch their heads and ask themselves why they vote Democrat. Don’t get me wrong - - I am well aware there are IQ issues involved - - but still, at least a few of them must finally, begrudgingly, pull their heads out of their behinds, don’t you think?


45 posted on 03/11/2011 8:49:55 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: kearnyirish2
Yes, the city jobs seem to require bilinguals. Oh, well, whatever. Either I get a job or live on obama stash! lol
46 posted on 03/11/2011 8:49:55 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: kearnyirish2
Completely agree! You've summarized one of the nasty underlying problems that's been created here in the USA.

My last boss was a hetero-hating bull dyke. Stupid as a box of rocks. I mean really stupid, EXCEPT (s)he has the ability of a broken record to throw the “I'm a protected person!” card out if/when (s)he was ever questioned or challenged about anything work related. (S)he was a joke and when I left there had become such a joke that everyone else would just let he(r) babble and ignored whatever(s)he said.

Being an over 40 year old dyke keeps that completely useless waste of flesh employed. She adds ZERO to the company or it's bottom line. Producing results? Please! You had to work AROUND he(r).

47 posted on 03/11/2011 8:53:57 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: kearnyirish2

1+1=2. Some might get there faster. I see neither of those numbers as racist.


48 posted on 03/11/2011 8:54:33 PM PST by allmost
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To: Bronzy

Here in NJ it is rapidly becoming a requirement in suburbs; Governor Christies Dem predecessor admitted during his term that without illegal immigrants NJ had lost population. The cities themselves are still bleeding the few jobs left, if anything. They had a hard time attracting workers before, and technology and a changing workplace has made our city model obsolete; we no longer need to work near a seaport, railways, or factories, and people shop at suburban malls or online now rather than “downtown”.


49 posted on 03/11/2011 8:55:49 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: GOPsterinMA

Very common in companies today; your particular token was protected by the over-40 anti-age discrimination laws, the lack of a penis, and a mental illness. You’re right; the companies just pay, and the staff works IN SPITE OF the token.


50 posted on 03/11/2011 8:58:44 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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