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The Dayton Police Department is lowering its testing standards for recruits.
ABC Dayton ^ | 11Mar 2011

Posted on 03/12/2011 3:32:47 PM PST by mandaladon

It's a move required by the U.S. Department of Justice after it says not enough African-Americans passed the exam.

Dayton is in desperate need of officers to replace dozens of retirees. The hiring process was postponed for months because the D.O.J. rejected the original scores provided by the Dayton Civil Service Board, which administers the test.

Under the previous requirements, candidates had to get a 66% on part one of the exam and a 72% on part two.

The D.O.J. approved new scoring policy only requires potential police officers to get a 58% and a 63%. That's the equivalent of an ‘F’ and a ‘D’.

“It becomes a safety issue for the people of our community,” said Dayton Fraternal Order of Police President, Randy Beane. “It becomes a safety issue to have an incompetent officer next to you in a life and death situation."

“The NAACP does not support individuals failing a test and then having the opportunity to be gainfully employed,” agreed Dayton NAACP President Derrick Foward.

The D.O.J. and Civil Service Board declined Dayton’s News Source’s repeat requests for interviews. The lower standards mean 258 more people passed the test. The city won't say how many were minorities.

“If you lower the score for any group of people, you're not getting the best qualified people for the job,” Foward said.

“We need to work with the youth and make them interested in becoming law enforcement officers and firefighters,” said Beane. “Break down the barriers whether they are real or perceived, so we can move forward in this community.”

The D.O.J. has forced other police departments across the country to lower testing standards, citing once again that not enough black candidates were passing.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.daytonsnewssource.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; holder4holderspeople; holderspeople; minorities; ohio; police
The Dayton Firefighter recruit exam is coming up this summer. The chief said it’s likely the passing score for that test will be lowered as well....Our country is going down hill fast!!!
1 posted on 03/12/2011 3:32:50 PM PST by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

“It’s a move required by the U.S. Department of Justice after it says not enough African-Americans passed the exam.”

Do they mean black people?


2 posted on 03/12/2011 3:33:54 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: mandaladon

Duh-heeeeeee duh-heeeeeeee duh-hurrrrrrrrr-hurrr-hurrr-hurrrrrrrr...


3 posted on 03/12/2011 3:39:02 PM PST by 4buttons
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To: mandaladon

It will be interesting when they get around to doing this for airline pilots! 30 plus years ago I an encounter with an EEOC officer who had flown into town for a meeting with my county agency on our testing procedures for paramedics. He was insistent that lots of people can do the work but “just don’t do well on tests.” I asked him if he would get back on the plane and return to Washington if he knew the pilots didn’t do well with exams and had failed their written tests for several ratings? He didn’t see the humor, but I think he might have gotten the point.


4 posted on 03/12/2011 3:39:32 PM PST by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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To: mandaladon

Di-verst-it-tie is are strenf!


5 posted on 03/12/2011 3:41:47 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: mandaladon

Only a pulse is mandatory. Fogging a mirror is a plus.


6 posted on 03/12/2011 3:41:54 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: mandaladon

I do not mind hiring anyone who passes an objective test, not subjective and hiring them in thot requiring merit assures that the public will not get adequate and proper treatment.

Congress this week did the same for the military. Racism is rampant against native born, English speaking Caucasian, American Males. As Europe has now said, Multi Culturalism does not work.


7 posted on 03/12/2011 3:43:57 PM PST by Tuketu (Democrats should be known as the National Democrat Party - NDP CASE CLOSED)
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To: jwparkerjr

The company I fly for just hired two people, both are former US Army Pilots, one a black male the other a white female, both are incredibly intelligent and exceptional pilots.

The black male is a graduate of West Point and he is the most anti-political person I’ve ever met.

Refuses to get sucked int any debate on politics, isn’t registered to vote.

I’ve had the pleasure of meeting, working with and flying with many military pilots and he without a doubt one of the smartest one’s to date.


8 posted on 03/12/2011 3:45:14 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: mandaladon

Tell the “justice joke” dept to shove it up Holder’s smelly Obama.


9 posted on 03/12/2011 3:46:14 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: mandaladon
Accurate headline:


Obama DOJ Thinks Blacks Are Stupid



10 posted on 03/12/2011 3:48:18 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

How does being anti-political make you a genius? Or being apolitical for that matter?


11 posted on 03/12/2011 3:49:35 PM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: mandaladon
Below IQ level of 85, dang, just contract it out to the chinese.
12 posted on 03/12/2011 3:51:34 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: mandaladon

The dumbing down of the police dept. We’ll see what that produces.


13 posted on 03/12/2011 3:52:54 PM PST by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15, 1-4)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I’ll bet would be one of the last people who want test scores lowered to accommodate blacks. Adjusting test results to allow those who otherwise would not qualify for a position is bad for everyone involved, but it’s so typical of how liberals think. They honestly don’t understand why some things work and others don’t. They skip right over the process and jump to the assumption that anyone who gets into a position can do just as well as anyone else. Even if you manage to somehow circumvent the kind of testing that is valid and is indeed predictive how well someone knows a subject and get these “affirmative action” candidates into a job they often learn very quickly just getting the position is only half the job!


14 posted on 03/12/2011 3:56:14 PM PST by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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To: rightly_dividing

“The dumbing down of the police dept. We’ll see what that produces.”

It will produce police officers that will commit even more mayhem on the streets of America. Exactly what they want. It’s a plan.


15 posted on 03/12/2011 3:58:50 PM PST by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: mandaladon

The U.S. Department of inJustice is busy again I see. I wonder when they will be abolished.


16 posted on 03/12/2011 3:59:40 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: org.whodat

“Below IQ level of 85, dang, just contract it out to the chinese. “

With our current immigration situation, below 85 IQ will be the norm.


17 posted on 03/12/2011 4:03:55 PM PST by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: dljordan; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; Fred Nerks; ...
. . . . Note To All; I'll be offline the remainder of the day.

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" “The dumbing down of the police dept. We’ll see what that produces.” "

It will produce police officers that will commit even more mayhem on the streets of America. Exactly what they want. It’s a plan.

From the article:

"It's a move required by the U.S. Department of Justice after it says not enough African-Americans passed the exam."

18 posted on 03/12/2011 4:07:24 PM PST by LucyT
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To: mandaladon
Born and raised in Dayton. Left for the Army and never really returned. 15 years or so back, Dayton elected a foul mouthed black high school drop out as mayor.....

In the years of 68-69 race riots raged in Dayton; white flight took hold and by the early 70's the factory's were shutting down; NCR with 10,000 per shift, Frigerdare, GM, and so many others, all left when they saw the destruction of the city by those who dwell until today on the West Side.

Any city that elects a foul mouth uneducated politician to run the city deserves this.

19 posted on 03/12/2011 4:11:38 PM PST by Jumper
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To: mandaladon
The Dayton Police Department is lowering its testing standards for African-American recruits.

ABC couldn't print the truth if their lives depended on it.

20 posted on 03/12/2011 4:11:48 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: mandaladon

Everything old is new again.

I graduated from the University of Cincinnati with honors with a B.S. in Criminal Justice in the early `80s. I tested above 95% written and physical for every police department that was hiring in the region. I kept getting passed over in favor of minorities and females who, in some cases, were scoring in the low 70’s and upper 60’s - but very, very rarely higher than my scores.

The Commandant of the Ohio Highway patrol suggested that with my transcripts I should consider law school because it would be “difficult” for me to find a good paying law enforcement job “at this time”. As I was escorted out one of the instructors who proctored the exams told me I was “too white and too male.”

Every day, in every way, Obama seems determined to exceed Carter for ineptitude.


21 posted on 03/12/2011 4:28:17 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry ("I've got tiger blood and Adonis DNA!")
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To: LucyT

“not enough African-Americans passed the exam”

I refuse to use the term “African-American”.
I grew up using “colored” or “negro”.
It was fine for the NAACP, and the United Negro College Fund.


22 posted on 03/12/2011 4:32:07 PM PST by AlexW
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

It is interesting you mentioned the military in the context of this story. Invariably, ‘affirmative action’ comes at the expense of veterans preference, essentially wiping out any real advantage to having served in the military.


23 posted on 03/12/2011 4:32:58 PM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: mandaladon

Excellence for everyone!


24 posted on 03/12/2011 4:33:13 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Every knife in my back pushes me forward.)
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To: sten

I also noticed they did not print what I thought should be the proper headline.


25 posted on 03/12/2011 4:41:43 PM PST by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: mandaladon

So if your dog is 11 years old, expect it to not only be shot but raped first.


26 posted on 03/12/2011 4:44:24 PM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: rightly_dividing

It’s the dumbing down of America!!!


27 posted on 03/12/2011 4:45:24 PM PST by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: mandaladon

The implications of a “diverse” police force are most interesting. White liberals will enjoy encounters with the “diverse” one’s.


28 posted on 03/12/2011 4:51:10 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Did you ever consider a lawsuit? That is horrible. What did you end up doing in your professional life?


29 posted on 03/12/2011 5:03:46 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: dljordan

“The dumbing down of the police dept. We’ll see what that produces.”

It will produce police officers that will commit even more mayhem on the streets of America. Exactly what they want. It’s a plan.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Plan is correct.
When these misfits (lets call them HOLDERS 100,000) are allowed to ‘take over’ the established ‘older’ police will be medically retiring early for stress or some other malady and the low scorers will replace them- which will more strain on the economics of the community..
Before you know it, the whole force is “Dumber than a sack of rocks”.
MacNamara’s 100,000 didn’t work cause the troops either wouldn’t put up with the idiots or left them out of the process.
Bad for everyone involved....especially the overworked troops picking up the slack from the no doers....


30 posted on 03/12/2011 5:07:11 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98)Knowledge is knowing tomato is a fruit - Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Cinci bump


31 posted on 03/12/2011 5:32:30 PM PST by colinhester
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To: xrmusn

“Before you know it, the whole force is “Dumber than a sack of rocks”.”

That is a desirable outcome if you think about it.


32 posted on 03/12/2011 5:54:22 PM PST by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: mandaladon
and they're gonna give these dumbasses guns, and the power of life an death over citizens smarter than they are...
33 posted on 03/12/2011 6:27:48 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: LucyT

In my opinion, the American people lowered their standards in the election of 2008.


34 posted on 03/12/2011 6:30:08 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: jwparkerjr

“It will be interesting when they get around to doing this for airline pilots! 30 plus years ago I an encounter with an EEOC officer who had flown into town for a meeting with my county agency on our testing procedures for paramedics. He was insistent that lots of people can do the work but “just don’t do well on tests.” I asked him if he would get back on the plane and return to Washington if he knew the pilots didn’t do well with exams and had failed their written tests for several ratings? He didn’t see the humor, but I think he might have gotten the point.”

It is true as a principle any test that is not the actual job itself does add and miss qualifications which are not relevant to the job at hand.

It is regrettable that our testing technology is so crude. In the future it may be possible to construct a test that more closely simulates the actual requirements of a job.

Such a test would invariably increase the number of qualified workers for a job and thus benefit any employer that choose an a more accruate test enabling them utilize this population.

An improved test would also save the employeer money lost due to ultimatly unqualfied employees passing the test for lack of something not adaquitly tested for.

The point is testing error cause a lot of problems. One of the most common forms of testing error is related to the reading and writing function of the test. Some people are poor at theses tasks which may not have anything significant to do with the job at hand.


35 posted on 03/12/2011 6:47:39 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Comparative Advantage

I’m a lawyer. Have been for 23 years. Quite happy with my career choice. I’m a Fellow in the American College of Employee Benefits Counsel and I’ve authored six books on employee benefits law. I speak at conferences around the nation and I provide expert witness testimony and act as an arbitrator in benefits contracts disputes. As much as I would want to be a cop (many friends are), I couldn’t afford the pay cut.


36 posted on 03/12/2011 6:49:54 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry ("I've got tiger blood and Adonis DNA!")
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To: Monorprise
One of the most common forms of testing error is related to the reading and writing function of the test. Some people are poor at theses tasks which may not have anything significant to do with the job at hand.

But isn't reading and writing a function that is relevant in virtually every job? Especially police work?

There are exceptions, I'm sure. But any job that requires a civil service exam would seem to require a working knowledge of reading and writing.

37 posted on 03/12/2011 7:03:43 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Glad to hear that it worked out for you in the end, but to get pushed there because of the discriminatory practices you described was quite sad to read.


38 posted on 03/12/2011 7:03:43 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: okie01

“”One of the most common forms of testing error is related to the reading and writing function of the test. Some people are poor at theses tasks which may not have anything significant to do with the job at hand.”

But isn’t reading and writing a function that is relevant in virtually every job? Especially police work?

There are exceptions, I’m sure. But any job that requires a civil service exam would seem to require a working knowledge of reading and writing.”


No reading and writing is not required for every job, and even for the job that do have some reading and writing it’s relevancy is variable. A variable that is going to become smaller and smaller as TTS and VTT technology becomes ever more improved and compact.

Indeed at some point in the future your ability to read or write may be rendered nearly meaningless for most jobs.
This is going to become even more apparently.


39 posted on 03/12/2011 7:44:36 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

You make very valid points.

The true test of a person’s ability to perform a task or job is to actually do it, and even if not well, at least without disastrous consequences.

Testing is an inexact science at best, at least in many respects. We were working to come up with a test that would help us decide which applicants would make good paramedics. This was 30 years ago and the notion of advanced pre-hospital care was in its infancy.


40 posted on 03/12/2011 7:47:51 PM PST by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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To: dljordan
"With our current immigration situation, below 85 IQ will be the norm."

Then we could just make 85 the new 100, then everyone will be smarter.

41 posted on 03/12/2011 7:49:08 PM PST by The Good Doctor (Democracy is the only system where you can vote for a tax that you can avoid the obligation to pay.)
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To: jwparkerjr
I would much prefer to have all of the DOJ personnel pushing this issue to be attended by first responders, nurses, and doctors who received their degrees and training based on racial quotas.

Somehow, I don't ever see than happening, do you?

42 posted on 03/12/2011 7:54:39 PM PST by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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To: dljordan

“Before you know it, the whole force is “Dumber than a sack of rocks”.”

That is a desirable outcome if you think about it
= = = = = = = = = = = = == = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
True in a good sense BUT, remember, ‘they’ want us unarmed - put a bunch of dumb hoods in uniform, with guns, and disaster looms....

Almost sounds like that ‘Private Army’ some Presidential Wannabe (occupier) was ‘pushing’.....

And Holder (probably) figures why prosecute people for polling place infractions, when you can just make them the ‘popo;.?

That is a ‘lose-lose’ situation.


43 posted on 03/12/2011 8:15:25 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98)Knowledge is knowing tomato is a fruit - Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: mandaladon

Just what authority does the DOJ have to tell cities who to hire for their police departments? Why doesn’t Dayton, and other cities, tell Holder to f*** off.


44 posted on 03/12/2011 8:39:00 PM PST by calex59
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To: Comparative Advantage

I agree, and thank you. I always wanted to be a cop. That was denied me for no reason other than the color of my skin and my gender.


45 posted on 03/12/2011 10:06:14 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry ("I've got tiger blood and Adonis DNA!")
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To: Jeff Chandler; mandaladon

Holder means “My People”!!!


46 posted on 03/15/2011 9:05:11 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: AlexW; LucyT

I agree, the rest of us are whites with NO hyphens!!!


47 posted on 03/15/2011 9:09:26 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: jwparkerjr

“It will be interesting when they get around to doing this for airline pilots!”

This has been in effect for years now throughout the aviation industry:

Racial Preferences at United Airlines

Part 0:
Introduction
United Airlines Affirmative Discrimination
UAL
Down: UAL Story Index
Index

The color and gender of UAL’s pilots is more important than your safety in the UNfriendly skies.

http://www.adversity.net/united/default.htm

“the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) hired women and minorities who did not know the front end of an airplane from the back; and tried, largely unsuccessfully and at great expense, to train them as air traffic controllers and flight service specialists, while experienced male pilots were passed over.”

http://www.mensdefense.org/STM_Book/EmploymentQuotas.htm


48 posted on 03/16/2011 6:19:13 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

Disgraced, Failed Female Navy Pilot Pursues Vendetta Against Organization that “Outed” Her
Center for Military Readiness ^ | 2/03 | Donnelly

Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 3:49:29 PM by pabianice

“...It is regrettable that I had to spend more than $ 500,000 to defend CMR [against] a baseless suit filed by former Navy LT Carey Lohrenz (Lorhenz had been “female quotaed” through Navy flight training and finally relieved of flying duty by her carrier CO after she had so scared the rest of the crew that no one would fly with her. She then sued CMR for releasing the details of her incompetence and grounding for “ruining her career.” CMR subsequently successfully defended itself in US District Court).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/839386/posts


49 posted on 03/16/2011 6:43:31 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: jwparkerjr

Video:
http://www.4shared.com/video/qiz7wB5V/F-14_CV_Approach_Crash.html

“The proximate cause of
the mishap was pilot error. There was an engine failure, but it
wasn’t fatal by itself; it had to be compounded by numerous gross
errors on her part. The mishap board identified four “aircrew
factors” as contributing factors to the mishap, including heavy use of
rudder while single-engine (a no-no), failure to execute proper
waveoff procedures, failure to inform the RIO of the emergency, and
failure to make a timely decision to eject.

The Navy issued a press release stating that the “cause” of the mishap
was the engine failure, and this was widely reported as Truth by the
press, who—contrary to what you saw in “All the President’s Men”—rarely
dig any deeper than the latest press release. They did this to head
off well-deserved criticism that they had rushed an under-qualified
female through the program just to meet their quota in that category.”


50 posted on 03/16/2011 6:59:34 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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