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The Dayton Police Department is lowering its testing standards for recruits.
ABC Dayton ^ | 11Mar 2011

Posted on 03/12/2011 3:32:47 PM PST by mandaladon

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To: mandaladon

Everything old is new again.

I graduated from the University of Cincinnati with honors with a B.S. in Criminal Justice in the early `80s. I tested above 95% written and physical for every police department that was hiring in the region. I kept getting passed over in favor of minorities and females who, in some cases, were scoring in the low 70’s and upper 60’s - but very, very rarely higher than my scores.

The Commandant of the Ohio Highway patrol suggested that with my transcripts I should consider law school because it would be “difficult” for me to find a good paying law enforcement job “at this time”. As I was escorted out one of the instructors who proctored the exams told me I was “too white and too male.”

Every day, in every way, Obama seems determined to exceed Carter for ineptitude.


21 posted on 03/12/2011 4:28:17 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry ("I've got tiger blood and Adonis DNA!")
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To: LucyT

“not enough African-Americans passed the exam”

I refuse to use the term “African-American”.
I grew up using “colored” or “negro”.
It was fine for the NAACP, and the United Negro College Fund.


22 posted on 03/12/2011 4:32:07 PM PST by AlexW
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

It is interesting you mentioned the military in the context of this story. Invariably, ‘affirmative action’ comes at the expense of veterans preference, essentially wiping out any real advantage to having served in the military.


23 posted on 03/12/2011 4:32:58 PM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: mandaladon

Excellence for everyone!


24 posted on 03/12/2011 4:33:13 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Every knife in my back pushes me forward.)
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To: sten

I also noticed they did not print what I thought should be the proper headline.


25 posted on 03/12/2011 4:41:43 PM PST by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: mandaladon

So if your dog is 11 years old, expect it to not only be shot but raped first.


26 posted on 03/12/2011 4:44:24 PM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: rightly_dividing

It’s the dumbing down of America!!!


27 posted on 03/12/2011 4:45:24 PM PST by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: mandaladon

The implications of a “diverse” police force are most interesting. White liberals will enjoy encounters with the “diverse” one’s.


28 posted on 03/12/2011 4:51:10 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Did you ever consider a lawsuit? That is horrible. What did you end up doing in your professional life?


29 posted on 03/12/2011 5:03:46 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: dljordan

“The dumbing down of the police dept. We’ll see what that produces.”

It will produce police officers that will commit even more mayhem on the streets of America. Exactly what they want. It’s a plan.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Plan is correct.
When these misfits (lets call them HOLDERS 100,000) are allowed to ‘take over’ the established ‘older’ police will be medically retiring early for stress or some other malady and the low scorers will replace them- which will more strain on the economics of the community..
Before you know it, the whole force is “Dumber than a sack of rocks”.
MacNamara’s 100,000 didn’t work cause the troops either wouldn’t put up with the idiots or left them out of the process.
Bad for everyone involved....especially the overworked troops picking up the slack from the no doers....


30 posted on 03/12/2011 5:07:11 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98)Knowledge is knowing tomato is a fruit - Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Cinci bump


31 posted on 03/12/2011 5:32:30 PM PST by colinhester
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To: xrmusn

“Before you know it, the whole force is “Dumber than a sack of rocks”.”

That is a desirable outcome if you think about it.


32 posted on 03/12/2011 5:54:22 PM PST by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: mandaladon
and they're gonna give these dumbasses guns, and the power of life an death over citizens smarter than they are...
33 posted on 03/12/2011 6:27:48 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: LucyT

In my opinion, the American people lowered their standards in the election of 2008.


34 posted on 03/12/2011 6:30:08 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: jwparkerjr

“It will be interesting when they get around to doing this for airline pilots! 30 plus years ago I an encounter with an EEOC officer who had flown into town for a meeting with my county agency on our testing procedures for paramedics. He was insistent that lots of people can do the work but “just don’t do well on tests.” I asked him if he would get back on the plane and return to Washington if he knew the pilots didn’t do well with exams and had failed their written tests for several ratings? He didn’t see the humor, but I think he might have gotten the point.”

It is true as a principle any test that is not the actual job itself does add and miss qualifications which are not relevant to the job at hand.

It is regrettable that our testing technology is so crude. In the future it may be possible to construct a test that more closely simulates the actual requirements of a job.

Such a test would invariably increase the number of qualified workers for a job and thus benefit any employer that choose an a more accruate test enabling them utilize this population.

An improved test would also save the employeer money lost due to ultimatly unqualfied employees passing the test for lack of something not adaquitly tested for.

The point is testing error cause a lot of problems. One of the most common forms of testing error is related to the reading and writing function of the test. Some people are poor at theses tasks which may not have anything significant to do with the job at hand.


35 posted on 03/12/2011 6:47:39 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Comparative Advantage

I’m a lawyer. Have been for 23 years. Quite happy with my career choice. I’m a Fellow in the American College of Employee Benefits Counsel and I’ve authored six books on employee benefits law. I speak at conferences around the nation and I provide expert witness testimony and act as an arbitrator in benefits contracts disputes. As much as I would want to be a cop (many friends are), I couldn’t afford the pay cut.


36 posted on 03/12/2011 6:49:54 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry ("I've got tiger blood and Adonis DNA!")
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To: Monorprise
One of the most common forms of testing error is related to the reading and writing function of the test. Some people are poor at theses tasks which may not have anything significant to do with the job at hand.

But isn't reading and writing a function that is relevant in virtually every job? Especially police work?

There are exceptions, I'm sure. But any job that requires a civil service exam would seem to require a working knowledge of reading and writing.

37 posted on 03/12/2011 7:03:43 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Glad to hear that it worked out for you in the end, but to get pushed there because of the discriminatory practices you described was quite sad to read.


38 posted on 03/12/2011 7:03:43 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: okie01

“”One of the most common forms of testing error is related to the reading and writing function of the test. Some people are poor at theses tasks which may not have anything significant to do with the job at hand.”

But isn’t reading and writing a function that is relevant in virtually every job? Especially police work?

There are exceptions, I’m sure. But any job that requires a civil service exam would seem to require a working knowledge of reading and writing.”


No reading and writing is not required for every job, and even for the job that do have some reading and writing it’s relevancy is variable. A variable that is going to become smaller and smaller as TTS and VTT technology becomes ever more improved and compact.

Indeed at some point in the future your ability to read or write may be rendered nearly meaningless for most jobs.
This is going to become even more apparently.


39 posted on 03/12/2011 7:44:36 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

You make very valid points.

The true test of a person’s ability to perform a task or job is to actually do it, and even if not well, at least without disastrous consequences.

Testing is an inexact science at best, at least in many respects. We were working to come up with a test that would help us decide which applicants would make good paramedics. This was 30 years ago and the notion of advanced pre-hospital care was in its infancy.


40 posted on 03/12/2011 7:47:51 PM PST by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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