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If Serious Radiation Link in Japan, Which Way Would Prevailing Winds Take the Radiation?
Business Insider ^ | 03/12/2011 | Business Insider

Posted on 03/12/2011 4:17:41 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bwr; fukushima; japan; japanearthquake; radiation; wind
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1 posted on 03/12/2011 4:17:46 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

LA?


2 posted on 03/12/2011 4:20:02 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Yes, generally eastward. But any radiation would be so dissipated by the time it reached the US shores (even Hawaii) that it wouldn’t even be perceptible above background.


3 posted on 03/12/2011 4:20:10 PM PST by PhilosopherStone1000
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Which Way Would Prevailing Winds Take the Radiation?

Forward.

4 posted on 03/12/2011 4:21:28 PM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Have no idea, but, I do wonder about it getting dumped in the ocean. What would the impact be? Would it be some what protected by all the iodine in the sea? Would it kill off everything within miles? Or would it eventually kill the whole ocean?


5 posted on 03/12/2011 4:21:32 PM PST by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Our way but it would be minimal. In fact it would circle the globe and eventually dissipate all around the earth.


6 posted on 03/12/2011 4:21:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I find the hysteria rather humorous. (except for those poor souls hear the plant)

When I was a kid, both the US and Russia regularly detonated large atmospheric nuclear devices.

Somehow I survived.


7 posted on 03/12/2011 4:22:25 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Right for the Bay Area. As if they didn’t have enough problems with the excretions of homeless people.


8 posted on 03/12/2011 4:22:43 PM PST by lurk
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To: cripplecreek

kinds of like our (and Russia’s) above ground nuclear testing in the 1950’s eh?


9 posted on 03/12/2011 4:23:26 PM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: nascarnation

A few months back the dispersant they used on oil in the gulf was going to kill us all.


10 posted on 03/12/2011 4:23:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Chernobyl’s radiation banded all the way around the earth, too. Jet stream takes it and moves it eastward.


11 posted on 03/12/2011 4:24:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: silverleaf

Lots of radioactive dust was tossed into the air by hundreds of above ground nuclear tests.


12 posted on 03/12/2011 4:25:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2687714/posts

See post #28, there’s a map.


13 posted on 03/12/2011 4:25:25 PM PST by japaneseghost
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To: PhiloBedo

Let’s put it this way...may be time to move to the southern Hemisphere. Rio looks better all the time.


14 posted on 03/12/2011 4:25:30 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: cripplecreek

Chernobyl impact was pretty much limited to the immediate area, from what I remember. But, this is by water and there are 2(?) of them? Or is it 5?


15 posted on 03/12/2011 4:25:50 PM PST by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: cripplecreek

“A few months back the dispersant they used on oil in the gulf was going to kill us all.”

However, I suspect it may be killing the fish.


16 posted on 03/12/2011 4:26:48 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
The danger zone from Chernobyl was quite large but they hid a far worse situation for some 10 days. Fallout will cover the globe just like it did from Chernobyl.

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17 posted on 03/12/2011 4:28:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: MsLady

I lost count at three. I think it’s kinda scary.

I feel so bad for the Japanese.


18 posted on 03/12/2011 4:28:20 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

” Which Way Would Prevailing Winds Take the Radiation? “

A nit to pick — ‘Radiation’ is not taken, pushed, shoved, or in any way affected by wind - any more than light or heat or radio/tv signals (which are also forms of ‘radiation’) would be...

Radioactive *particles*, AKA ‘fallout’, do have mass and dimension, so they can be carried by the wind - but I’ve seen very little indication, so far, of any kind of release of these particles.....

Okay - everybody can go back to their regularly-scheduled panic, now... ;)


19 posted on 03/12/2011 4:29:21 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

This map does not agree with the other map. They don’t really know what they are talking about do they?


20 posted on 03/12/2011 4:30:05 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: Uncle Ike
A nit to pick

It's not nit picking. FReepers should be smart enough to totally discount sources that don't even know the difference between contamination and radiation (contamination is the poo, radiation is the odor, to put is very simply).

21 posted on 03/12/2011 4:32:33 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Pointless speculation about something that has not happened and is not likely to happen.


22 posted on 03/12/2011 4:32:49 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!)
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To: Uncle Ike

Seems that the real fallout danger would be from radioactive dust and smoke etc. It doesn’t appear that a great deal of them are being produced at this point.


23 posted on 03/12/2011 4:35:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

We set off 16 nuclear bombs on Bikini Atoll and the last time I looked there are still people living on the planet.


24 posted on 03/12/2011 4:36:42 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: PhiloBedo

“If Serious Radiation Link in Japan, Which Way Would Prevailing Winds Take the Radiation?”

Chicago?


25 posted on 03/12/2011 4:39:38 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The way to beat a terrorist is to terrorize him.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Something tells me the near future may not be a good time to fly.


26 posted on 03/12/2011 4:42:18 PM PST by Defend Liberty
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To: P-Marlowe

A listing of above ground nuclear detonations. (These actually did throw a lot of radioactive dust into the air)

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/atest00.html


27 posted on 03/12/2011 4:42:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
Yes, generally eastward. But any radiation would be so dissipated by the time it reached the US shores (even Hawaii) that it wouldn’t even be perceptible above background.

How do you know?
28 posted on 03/12/2011 4:43:05 PM PST by Defend Liberty
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If Serious Radiation Link in Japan, Which Way Would Prevailing Winds Take the Radiation?

This reminds me of the old joke in which you ask "if a plane crashed exactly on the Canada-US border, where would you bury the survivors?"

29 posted on 03/12/2011 4:46:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The whole earth may move, but God's throne is never shaken. I think I'll stand by Him...)
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To: nascarnation
...When I was a kid, both the US and Russia regularly detonated large atmospheric nuclear devices...

I remember my mom would wait to make snow-cream out of freshly fallen snow until she heard word on the radio that it did not contain radioactive fallout.

30 posted on 03/12/2011 4:47:46 PM PST by FReepaholic
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To: Defend Liberty

Because even Chernobyl dissipated by the time it reached France (probably 1/2 the distance from Japan to Hawaii).


31 posted on 03/12/2011 4:50:58 PM PST by PhilosopherStone1000
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To: nascarnation

Our bombs were/are clean bombs. Nothing to worry about.

Didn’t everyone get the memo?

Besides, having that extra arm means there is no spot I can’t scratch.


32 posted on 03/12/2011 4:52:49 PM PST by bigheadfred (THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN)
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To: Defend Liberty
How do you know?

Info gathered after hundreds of above ground nuclear tests and Chernobyl.
33 posted on 03/12/2011 4:53:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Besides, having that extra arm means there is no spot I can’t scratch.

LOL I wanted a third arm and all I got was a spare nose in my butt crack.
34 posted on 03/12/2011 4:59:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: MsLady
Chernobyl impact was pretty much limited to the immediate area, from what I remember.

Not at all. According to Wikipedia, "The plume drifted over large parts of the western Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Western Europe, and Northern Europe. Large areas in Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia had to be evacuated, with over 336,000 people resettled. " I had relatives living in Europe at the time, so I remember it well.

35 posted on 03/12/2011 4:59:54 PM PST by giotto
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YIKES!!! Well that goes to show you how good my memory is. That’s a pretty huge area. I vaguely remember something about the elk population or reindeer maybe? Either being wiped out in an area or unfit to eat.


36 posted on 03/12/2011 5:02:54 PM PST by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Crescent City, CA...according to jet-stream maps I looked at yesterday.
Seriously, probably not a huge threat as the Japanese type of reactor is different from the graphite-modulated type at Chernobyl.
Obviously, any arriving radioactive stuff wouldn’t exactly do us any GOOD either.


37 posted on 03/12/2011 5:03:19 PM PST by 91B40
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; PhilosopherStone1000; nascarnation; Secret Agent Man; cripplecreek; ...
American Ground Zero: the Secret Nuclear War
38 posted on 03/12/2011 5:04:19 PM PST by bigheadfred (THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN)
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To: MsLady

This is the best site I’ve seen on Chernobal. A girl on a motorcycle goes through the area and takes pictures and explains them. Long trip and lots of pics.
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/chapter47.html


39 posted on 03/12/2011 5:08:26 PM PST by WVNan
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To: cripplecreek

Well, I’d just as soon have a really good bull**** meter than a third arm.


41 posted on 03/12/2011 5:08:37 PM PST by bigheadfred (THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN)
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To: MsLady
I vaguely remember something about the elk population or reindeer maybe? Either being wiped out in an area or unfit to eat.

It made their noses glow red.

42 posted on 03/12/2011 5:11:14 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Look up the Japanese Fire Balloons from WWII, that will give you an idea.

If the half-life is long enough, some (tiny) amount will be anywhere. For a long time I could see excess tritium in soil from above ground tests, and I still see plutonium, which is synthetic, so must come from nuke tests.


43 posted on 03/12/2011 5:15:18 PM PST by DBrow
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To: code 10 militia
more than 1000 nukes were detonated around the world up to now, and we’re still here.

What about those giant ants in the Mojave Desert?


44 posted on 03/12/2011 5:17:35 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: nascarnation

“I find the hysteria rather humorous. (except for those poor souls hear the plant)

When I was a kid, both the US and Russia regularly detonated large atmospheric nuclear devices.

Somehow I survived.”

Guess you were not a “Down-Winder”.
The U.S. nuke test did have consequences for some of our citizens.


45 posted on 03/12/2011 5:18:44 PM PST by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: Defend Liberty

“Something tells me the near future may not be a good time to fly.”

Flying exposes you to at least 200 micro-R/hour, and can be lots more depending on altitude, latitude, and solar activity.

Some readings over 780 uR/Hr have been seen.

Here is an airline dose calculator:

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/frame/radiation_profile.html

1 Sievert= 100 REM

So adding a little cesium dust to the air won’t make a lot of difference, in terms of additional dose. It didn’t after Chernobyl.


46 posted on 03/12/2011 5:22:10 PM PST by DBrow
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To: silverleaf

A sample of the 85,000 teeth was used to locate cancer survivors (through current addresses) and those who died of cancer (through official death records). In December 2010, the International Journal of Health Services published findings of the study, i.e. that “Boomers” born 1959-1961 who died of cancer had Sr-90 levels in their teeth more than twice (+122%) greater than those the same age who are alive and healthy. (13) While more research is needed to estimate casualties, it appears likely that the government figure of 15,000 U.S. cancer deaths from fallout is quite low.
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/seeking-new-clues-to-cancer-risks-from-atom-bomb-tests/


47 posted on 03/12/2011 5:28:46 PM PST by blueplum
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
What about those giant ants in the Mojave Desert?

I was 10 years old when I went to the movies in downtown Needles, California, a four-block walk from our home on Broadway Street. One Saturday, I went there to see Them

I don't think I made it past the first ten minutes or so. I never saw the giant ants. This creepy hand crawling around the edge of an open door was enough for me! Ran all the way home, and when no one was home at that moment, I stayed outside in the yard until someone arrived.

48 posted on 03/12/2011 5:31:55 PM PST by Brandybux (Oportet ministros manus lavare antequam latrinam relinquent.)
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To: Brandybux
This creepy hand crawling around the edge of an open door was enough for me!

LOL!

49 posted on 03/12/2011 5:34:40 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: lurk

There was a story out yesterday that S.F.P.D. were busy trying to get the homeless off the beaches due to the tsunami advisery.

I figured they could use the bath.


50 posted on 03/12/2011 5:40:31 PM PST by Crcl1
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