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Japan, Radiation Fallout and Iodine Recommendations
Dr. Brownstein's Blog ^ | 3/12/11 | Dr. Brownstein

Posted on 03/12/2011 5:00:54 PM PST by spacejunkie01

There's alot of confusion about taking iodine to ward off radiation poisoning. Dr. Brownstein is an expert in iodine/iodide usage and has written a blog specifically for the radiation.

Inorganic, non radiated iodine does not cause allergies. Most symptoms that people may connect to iodine and assume they are allergic are actually bromine detox symptoms.

Whether we're faced with radiation coming to this country or not, we should all take iodine for health. Deficiency in iodine is known to cause breast cancer, fibroids, thyroid cancer, ovarian and prostate cancer.

(Excerpt) Read more at breastcancerchoices.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: iodine; japan; japanearthquake; potassiumiodide; radiation; thyroid
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To: djf
and... I am not going to bow to ANYONE'S flatulence!

That would definitely be a health hazard...

51 posted on 03/12/2011 6:59:56 PM PST by rlmorel (How to relate to Liberals? Take a Conservative, remove all responsibility...logic...)
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To: Nobel_1
Additional reasons why this is not Chernobyl ...

And even if it had been Chernobyl, Chernobyl was one of the most overhyped disasters until global warming came along.

As I pointed out earlier on another thread:
When are we going to find out the truth and how much radiation is in the jet stream?

Please try to find Before It's Too Late: A Scientist's Case FOR Nuclear Energy by Bernard Cohen. You can get a used one from Amazon for a few dollars. This will put the risks of everything into perspective so you won't be tormenting yourself with images that have little basis in fact. You do know, don't you, that a typical coal-fired plant puts out as waste many tons of radioactive materials per year? And that even if one of the Japanese nuclear plants (light water reactors) completely blew up, it would be, compared to Chernobyl (a graphite core that could burn), like a kid taking a leak against the side of the garage of a house by a river compared to a dam breaking upstream, and that Chernobyl (see reference 4), despite the 31 early deaths of people working at the plant over the next four years, didn't result in a huge number or even a moderately large number of deaths in the surrounding countryside and that the major portion of deaths from Chernobyl was caused by moving people away, giving them a stipend, and their dying from alcoholism as a result or by unnecessary abortions?

Did you know that there are places throughout the world where people have lived for thousands of years that have levels of naturally-occurring radiation that are hundreds of times greater than you could ever receive from a popped nuclear electric plant in Japan (much less Chernobyl) without any statistically higher incidence of cancer? (See also CHERNOBYL: THE FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN by Z. Jawoworksi and "Observations on the Chernobyl Disaster and LNT?" Z. Jawoworski, Dose-Response, 2010, and Nuclear Weapons and Radiation: Miscellaneous Facts, John Moore (look for the part titled "Beneficial Radiation and Regulations."



52 posted on 03/12/2011 7:00:14 PM PST by aruanan
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To: DBrow

If there was only one thing I learned with 100% certainty in working with radioactive materials, it was that people are often irrationally frightened of them. Even the sight of a radioactive symbol was enough to start a cascade of unforeseen, sometimes even humorous events.

I think it is simply because you cannot see, smell or hear radiation.


53 posted on 03/12/2011 7:03:39 PM PST by rlmorel (How to relate to Liberals? Take a Conservative, remove all responsibility...logic...)
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To: ken21

I take the same...only it’s called IThroid from RLC labs....


54 posted on 03/12/2011 7:08:18 PM PST by goodnesswins (Unlike the West, the Islamic world is serious.)
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To: ken21

I take the same...only it’s called IThroid from RLC labs....


55 posted on 03/12/2011 7:08:22 PM PST by goodnesswins (Unlike the West, the Islamic world is serious.)
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To: aruanan
Because of this subject I just pulled out my envelope.

It says OPSAT. Potassium Iodide Tablets-K1.
Expiration date 8/2007.

To be taken by mouth when instructed by public health officials in the event of radiation exposure.

The note on the top says TMI Pills.

I thought I was OK because I am 10 miles away and they were concerned with those 9 miles away. There must be a barrier between 9 and 10 miles.

Should I throw these things away because of the date?
They look like they are still good.

56 posted on 03/12/2011 7:10:56 PM PST by AGreatPer (Voting for the crazy conservative gave us Ronald Reagan....Ann Coulter)
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To: spacejunkie01
As the Japanese nuclear reactors release radiation into the air, the jet streams will push this radiation to the Western U.S. and Canada. There are estimates that the radiation fallout will reach the Western side of N. American in six to ten days.

Ha ha. As if it could get up to the jet stream in any meaningful quantities. Save your money, folks. This was no Chernobyl. Even Chernobyl was no Chernobyl.
57 posted on 03/12/2011 7:15:38 PM PST by aruanan
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To: spacejunkie01

“Furthermore, I have seen estimates that it is expected that 750 RADS may contaminate these areas.”

Would you please give us your sources of these estimates - is this just blog chatter? Some of us have radiation physics backgrounds - mine is from 30 years ago.


58 posted on 03/12/2011 7:17:27 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Nope, there are a wagonload of folks that are tired of the fear mongering and BS. We nuked Japan twice. With dirty bombs. In the atmosphere. I don’t remember any radiation related deaths on the west coast.
/johnny

———————But how many developed a cancer 30 years later??????


59 posted on 03/12/2011 7:50:07 PM PST by Freddd
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To: aruanan

And even if it had been Chernobyl, Chernobyl was one of the most overhyped disasters until global warming came along.

-—————Tell that to the parents of the children who developed cancer.


60 posted on 03/12/2011 7:52:41 PM PST by Freddd
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To: spacejunkie01

Since we are within the 10 mile radius of a nuclear power plant, I keep a betadine scrub on hand instead of KI tablets. If needed I would coat the left arm of everyone in the family with it from wrist to above elbow. if there is any allergic response it will be easier to manage this way- especially considering we would be travelling about 500 miles if there was a melt down.


61 posted on 03/12/2011 7:52:41 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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To: spacejunkie01

I carry Potassium Iodide as opposed to potassium iodate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_iodate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_iodide

There is a difference - especially as to the taste and ease of giving to children.
Cost varies substantially, be prepared as trade is a factor in times of stress.


62 posted on 03/12/2011 8:12:53 PM PST by PeteCat
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To: armymarinemom

Isn’t 1 drop 6.25mg? if so, you’re doing 50mg now. That’s not alot really, if you read up on the experts that’s what they recommend.


63 posted on 03/13/2011 5:32:34 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: japaneseghost

I don’t think adding seaweed to your diet can hurt but with all the things we’re up against, I don’t know if you can get enough in the seaweed.


64 posted on 03/13/2011 5:33:58 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: rlmorel

I’m not worried at all, and really used this opportunity to talk to people about their need for iodine :)


65 posted on 03/13/2011 5:36:29 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: Freddd
-—————Tell that to the parents of the children who developed cancer.

Ah, yes, the children. The magical touchstone of "it doesn't matter what we have to do and how many people it harms if it will save the life of one child."

How about all the parents whose children were harmed because of unnecessarily evacuating tens of thousands of people from the surrounding region? Besides, there wasn't an increase in childhood cancer deaths from Chernobyl. You'll notice that there was screening 2 to 4 years post-Chernobyl for thyroid cancer that showed an increase but that was due to intensive screening detecting what would always have been there but not diagnosed for one reason or another. Also, the latency period for developing thyroid cancer from such a cause is 10 years, so screening 2 to 4 years after the incident would not have spotted the cancers from this cause. Look at what was actually discovered over the decades since Chernobyl versus what the fear-mongers were hyping at the time. Follow the links I posted to the UNSCEAR report fielded by Z. Jawoworski.

The human tragedy of Chernobyl was caused, not by Chernobyl, but by the activists promoting government action where none was needed:
Besides the 28 fatalities among rescue workers and employees of the power station due to very high doses of radiation (2.9 – 16 Gy), and 3 deaths due to other reasons (UNSCEAR 2000b), the only real adverse health consequences of the Chernobyl catastrophe among approximately five million people living in the contaminated regions were the epidemics of psychosomatic afflictions that appear as diseases of the digestive and circulatory systems and other post-traumatic stress disorders such as sleep disturbance, headache, depression, anxiety, escapism, “learned helplessness”, unwillingness to cooperate, overdependence, alcohol and drug abuse and suicides. These diseases and disturbances could not have been due to the minute irradiation doses from the Chernobyl fallout (average dose rate of about 1 – 2 mSv/year), but they were caused by radiophobia (an deliberately induced fear of radiation) aggravated by wrongheaded administrative decisions and even, paradoxically, by increased medical attention which leads to diagnosis of subclinical changes that persistently hold the attention of the patient. Bad administrative decisions made several million people believe that they were “victims of Chernobyl” although the average annual dose they received from “Chernobyl” radiation was only about one third of the average natural dose. This was the main factor responsible for the economic losses caused by the Chernobyl catastrophe, estimated to have reached $148 billion by 2000 for the Ukraine and to reach $235 billion by 2016 for Belarus.
Observations on the Chernobyl Disaster and LNT

66 posted on 03/13/2011 7:10:11 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: spacejunkie01

You are right. I hold the dropper horizontal. You get twice the drop and the way I use the dropper is just out of habit. Vertical 6.25 horizontal 12.5.


67 posted on 03/13/2011 6:31:18 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Domestic Church

It’s bs, pure hysteria.

You want one clue why? Clue One: How high is the jetstream?


68 posted on 03/13/2011 6:35:42 PM PDT by bvw
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To: djf
There’s a wagonload of jerks out there who will be coming by to tell you how big a fool you are for even thinking that this could cause a problem.

Poor guy, there's a wagonload of folks who actually know what they're talking about when they say that preparing for fallout from Japanese nuclear reactors is a gigantic waste of time, money, and emotional stability.
69 posted on 03/13/2011 6:38:23 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: DBrow

It’s kinda like super idiots punping up panic in idiots on threads like these.


70 posted on 03/13/2011 6:39:22 PM PDT by bvw
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To: japaneseghost

Very healthy too.


71 posted on 03/13/2011 6:40:24 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

The claim of 750 REMS on the west coast of the US is so utterly ridiculous!

It’s like saying everybody everywhere is going to die, and it’s not even 2012 yet!


72 posted on 03/13/2011 6:42:50 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

It would be just as effective to perform some Aztec-Mayan ritual using a glass-skull, as stocking up on KI. IMO.


73 posted on 03/13/2011 7:01:10 PM PDT by bvw
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To: DBrow

“The claim of 750 REMS on the west coast of the US is so utterly ridiculous!”

Yep. Hoax:

http://www.australian-radiation-services.com.au/


74 posted on 03/13/2011 7:02:00 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: bvw

I bet I could make more money with a crystal-skull ritual than I could selling KI.

Hmm, saw Crystal Skull vodka yesterday...that and some candles..bet I could charge $50 if I promised protection against airborne alpha particles.


75 posted on 03/13/2011 7:04:03 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: bvw

What I wrote was just my general preparedness for my family as one who years ago worked with radiation in medicine. We live within the evacuation zone for our local power plant. I don’t need your clues, I have my own medical training.


76 posted on 03/13/2011 8:15:02 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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To: Domestic Church

Are you so sure rudeness saves lives?

In any, you evidently need some clues. Clues you don’t know you need to know. Unless of course, death, is the goal.


77 posted on 03/14/2011 4:29:53 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Domestic Church

The Japanese government is handing out iodine pills to flood the thyroid gland with ordinary iodine in hopes of preventing it from taking up the radioactive form.

Dr. Brenner said the iodine pills were protective, but were “a bit of a myth” because their use is based on the belief that the risk is from inhaling radioactive iodine. Actually, he said, 98 percent of people’s exposure comes from milk and other dairy products.

“The way radioactive iodine gets into human beings is an indirect route,” he said. “It falls to the ground, cows eat it and make milk with radioactive iodine, and you get it from drinking the milk. You get very little from inhaling it. The way to prevent it is just to stop people from drinking the milk.” He said that the epidemic of thyroid cancer around Chernobyl could have been prevented if the government had immediately stopped people from drinking milk.

Crops can also be contaminated. “I wouldn’t be eating an apple from a tree close to the plant,” Dr. Brenner said.


78 posted on 03/17/2011 11:41:50 AM PDT by TBuzz (Radioctive Iodine not inhaled, rather it is consumed via dairy products?)
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To: TBuzz

I didn’t buy imported ham after Chernobyl.


79 posted on 03/17/2011 7:26:24 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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