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Prepare ye the way—the aliens are coming! Popular fantasy becomes cultural ‘fact’
Creation.com// ^ | 10 February 2011 (GMT+10) | Gary Bates

Posted on 03/13/2011 3:47:29 AM PDT by JSDude1

Recently there has been an accelerated ‘wave’ of UFO hysteria sweeping the globe, and many supporters have contacted us asking for comments. Later in this article, the recent claims are highlighted and addressed. Because we have written much in recent years about the growing popularity of what is commonly called the UFO phenomenon, this article will only briefly touch on what underpins this cultural phenomenon. Many of our original arguments and explanations are still relevant to these new speculative claims that appear in the media. This article provides many links to relevant articles already on creation.com,

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The strength of such ideas also presents a challenge to the traditional Christian worldview, because they are in stark contrast to the idea that mankind is the central focus of God’s creation. A straightforward understanding of Scripture leaves no place for similarly sentient and intelligent morally aware beings elsewhere in the universe. The primary role of the creation was to bring forward a bride for Christ (see Did God create life on other planets? for a biblically-based perspective on this). Such a seemingly ‘dogmatic’ stance has led to shouts of ‘arrogance’ aimed at Christians. However, these are strange accusations, coming from those who believe that the universe is widely inhabited by ETs, because to date we do not have a shred of indisputable

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: christianity; endtimes; etsquared; extraterrestrials; god; newageoccult; strongdelusions; ufo

1 posted on 03/13/2011 3:47:35 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1

Oh good! They are coming to save us(from killing each other in stupid wars....or maybe to enslave us and harvest our bodies.)


2 posted on 03/13/2011 3:55:12 AM PDT by cavador ("Self determination is not a malfunction"!(Harkness;Fallout 3 Rivet City 2077))
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To: JSDude1

As we have often stated, we should make a stand on the truth and not be concerned that the Bible might somehow be falsified (e.g. by a ‘real ET’) when it comes to big picture issues like God being the Creator. Our strong view is that there is simply no room in His Word to squeeze in a benevolent alien or two. As sightings and alleged contacts increase, and governments take official positions to seemingly endorse the notion, it is worth remembering that mankind’s inclination is towards rebellion and rejection of God, seemingly looking to anything else rather than accept Him as Creator. Jeremiah 17:9 reminds us:

“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
Many Christians have already been led astray by accepting another manmade philosophy (evolution) that had its origin with the lies of the evil one when he asked the very first humans:

“Did God really say?”


3 posted on 03/13/2011 4:11:47 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: cavador

No, we are dinner.....


4 posted on 03/13/2011 4:13:23 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: JSDude1

5 posted on 03/13/2011 4:52:10 AM PDT by mirkwood (Palin-Bachmann 2012)
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To: JSDude1

bm


6 posted on 03/13/2011 5:05:57 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: JSDude1

I think UFOs might possibly be another ruse of the NWO to get the people scared and more willing to obey the government. They might pop them out if terrorism doesn’t do the trick.


7 posted on 03/13/2011 5:31:28 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Quix

ping


8 posted on 03/13/2011 5:37:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: cavador

There’s no inconsistency between the Bible and the possibility of alien life. Actually Ezekiel’s wheel argues aliens are in the Bible. (No, I’m not espousing that, just bringing it up.) It wouldn’t be relevant in umpty-ump BC for God to spake; “Oh, and I’m doing the same thing on other planets in other solar systems. Eh...planets...this thing you’re standing on is a planet. Yes, I know I called it Earth a few chapters back, but it’s a planet and it goes around the sun. Uhm...no, actually, the Earth goes around the sun...no, you won’t fall off on the other side because the Earth is round...Uhm...because the Earth is so big you’re stuck to it by something called ‘gravity.’”

I can imagine why God wouldn’t want to get dragged into THAT conversation. Maybe God was thinking, the Bible is allegorical and it’s intended to teach them the basic fundamentals of civilization and they’ll figure everything else out later.


9 posted on 03/13/2011 6:07:52 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: RoadTest
I think UFOs might possibly be another ruse of the NWO to get the people scared

I ain't scared of no aliens.......I say bring 'em on and let's get it over with.

10 posted on 03/13/2011 6:17:15 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Oh Magoo, you've done it again.....)
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To: JSDude1
Actually, stars are rather simple structures—they have been described as ‘glowing balls of gas’. There is far more complexity in the genetic code of the simplest organism than in a thousand galaxies.

Actually, books are rather simple structures--they have been described as 'layers of decorated cellulose'. There is far more complexity in the genetic code of the simplest organism than in a thousand libraries.

When you (Gary Bates?) have a clue what the heck matter is and how something came from nothing, give me a call.

11 posted on 03/13/2011 6:23:05 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (The less I say, the more I'm right...)
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To: JSDude1; Envisioning; waterhill

Here is what I think (don’t like to use the term ‘believe’ in a thread of this nature:

1. There is life elsewhere. With billions of galaxies out there (yes, billions), it is arrogant of MAN (not God) to believe life exists only on this minor planet.

2. We have NOT been contacted by ET. The distances involved are mind-boggling, and absent some science fiction hyperspace, it would take centuries, no, millenia for a craft to come from, say, the Andromeda Galaxy to Earth.

3. However, both skeptics and true believers (in UFOs) agree on one point. The issue will not be settled until a ‘flying saucer’ lands and its occupant steps out and says, “I come in peace.”

May the prime cause of everything be beneficient to you.


12 posted on 03/13/2011 6:42:20 AM PDT by ixtl (You live and learn, or you don't live long.)
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To: ixtl

If an ET lands I will be 100% certain he is a fallen angel. Satans great deception will fool many


13 posted on 03/13/2011 6:47:40 AM PDT by winodog
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To: winodog

bttt


14 posted on 03/13/2011 6:52:34 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ixtl
Photobucket
15 posted on 03/13/2011 6:53:39 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: JSDude1

It’s all a ruse by Satan.

An EXCELLENT book covers the agenda:

“Alien Encounters” by Missler and Eastman


16 posted on 03/13/2011 6:59:14 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: mirkwood

NICE,


17 posted on 03/13/2011 7:02:01 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: mirkwood

Unimaginably Fabulous Organism.

I’m a believer.


18 posted on 03/13/2011 7:02:56 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: mirkwood

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm


19 posted on 03/13/2011 7:18:28 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: JSDude1; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...

1. I disagree that there is NO ROOM IN HIS WORD FOR A BENEVOLENT RACE OF OTHER CRITTERS.

2. HOWEVER, I also see absolutely no evidence of such.

3. The critters flitting about in craft by all solid accounts I respect are fallen angels pretending to be citizens of distant planets.

4. EVEN IF THERE WERE citizens of distant planets in the craft, THEY ARE ALL STILL WORKING WITH SATAN TO SET UP THE END TIMES GLOBAL SATANIC GOVERNMENT—BAD CRITTERS.

5. Inaccurate purportedly Biblical nonsense about the topic does not help people prepare for what’s coming down the Pike.

6. The critters will appear wholesale and on prime time CNN routinely at some point in time. Their claims will be accepted by the brain dead sheeple.

7. If Believers are still around, they will need to resist the GREAT END TIMES DECEPTION WHOLESALE.


20 posted on 03/13/2011 7:23:28 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: BenLurkin

THX THX. Please see my response just above.


21 posted on 03/13/2011 7:24:15 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: winodog
If an ET lands I will be 100% certain he is a fallen angel. Satans great deception will fool many.

Why presume the unknown is automatically evil? Perhaps they are good. Perhaps they are both good and evil, just like humans.

22 posted on 03/13/2011 7:48:00 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: Gen.Blather

Yes, there is: as this author stated: the creation was meant for man, beside if Christ died to redeem us (and creation is fallen) then He would have to die thousands of times, on 1000’s of worlds (clearly the Bible says He only died once!).

So yes, alien life is incompatable with Christ (other than simple celled critters/bacteria).


23 posted on 03/13/2011 8:30:54 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

I am not freakin Gary Bates, but I agree with the author 100%.


24 posted on 03/13/2011 8:32:32 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: 6SJ7

It depends. It’s a “signs and wonders” thing. There are tests to determine if the alien-being is of God or not;
- speaks according to the Word
- confesses Jesus is the Son of God
A few other things worthy of prayerful study...grist for another thread’s mill perhaps :)...

Demons exist.
Do unfallen beings also exist?
I think so.
Decide for yourselves...

Jhn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jhn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and [there is] none else.

Hbr 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds

Hbr 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

I do not think He (Jesus) made the WORLDS in vain either.


25 posted on 03/13/2011 8:32:43 AM PDT by spankalib
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To: ixtl

I believe “aliens”, are a demonic ruse to decieve mankind (and weak “Christians” into not believing in God of the Bible)!

J.S.


26 posted on 03/13/2011 8:33:47 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: JSDude1

Not saying this isn’t interesting (it indeed has great entertainment value) but this belong in Bloggers, or maybe Religion, but not News.


27 posted on 03/13/2011 8:39:32 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

It was posted late at night, and so I wanted to reach a greater audience than “bloggers”..

J.S.


28 posted on 03/13/2011 8:44:20 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: Mrs.Z

That’s my thought too.


29 posted on 03/13/2011 9:35:48 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: JSDude1
(Confused look on face.) I believe the author of the quote I parodied was Gary Bates and have no idea if he freaks or not.

Do you believe that creating a star with no materials at hand would be a simple matter (no pun intended) as well?

30 posted on 03/13/2011 10:23:26 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (The less I say, the more I'm right...)
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To: Mrs.Z

Yep, Satan is using it to deceive folks, watch the One World Religion they spout when they “arrive”. Thanks for the book tip, I will try to get a copy.


31 posted on 03/13/2011 11:10:16 AM PDT by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

For God, yes, for me, no.


32 posted on 03/13/2011 1:11:41 PM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: Quix
3. The critters flitting about in craft by all solid accounts I respect are fallen angels pretending to be citizens of distant planets.

I've always believed this is the case. I mean, where did the fallen angels go when God cast satan and them out of Heaven?
33 posted on 03/13/2011 4:35:48 PM PDT by bearsgirl90
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To: Jack Hammer
Unimaginably Fabulous Organism.

You know what I initially thought that said? TeeHee! :-)
34 posted on 03/13/2011 4:38:23 PM PDT by bearsgirl90
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To: bearsgirl90

Evidently some got their bodies killed in NOah’s flood and became demons . . . without bodies unless possessing someone or e.g. pigs.

Evidently a lot were left off planet. . . . in space or some other dimension.


35 posted on 03/13/2011 5:06:31 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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