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Fighting Sioux nickname bill passes N.D. Senate; Dalrymple will sign it
Grand Forks Herald ^ | March 11, 2011 | Chuck Haga

Posted on 03/13/2011 1:05:57 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

The North Dakota Senate voted today to approve legislation ordering UND to retain its controversial Fighting Sioux nickname and Indian-head logo.

The vote was 28-15 with four senators absent and not voting, and came after a massive e-mail lobbying campaign that senators said heavily favored approval.

The bill, passed earlier by the House on a 65-28 vote, goes now to Gov. Jack Dalrymple, who said he will sign it.

(Excerpt) Read more at grandforksherald.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: colleges; fightingsioux; nicknames; northdakota

1 posted on 03/13/2011 1:06:01 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

If Indians don’t like it they can always go back to Asia.


2 posted on 03/13/2011 1:08:35 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: ConservativeStatement

This bill puts the school at loggerheads with the NCAA, so now everyone will see if the NCAA expels them, or caves and lets them keep their mascot, or tries some meeching half measure, like forbidding them from displaying or referring to their mascot during athletic events. That is, you may have to keep it, but you can’t use it.


3 posted on 03/13/2011 1:10:19 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: ConservativeStatement

The NCAA (ironically headquartered in Indianapolis, Indiana) are going to be upset.


4 posted on 03/13/2011 1:11:38 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: ConservativeStatement

The only people upset buy these nicknames are the liberal, white crackers. It doesn’t bother any of the Indians that I know. They wear a lot of these logos on their hats and jackets.


5 posted on 03/13/2011 1:12:03 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Look for the union label and just say, NO!)
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To: Vision
About time people start standing up and fighting this political correctness.
6 posted on 03/13/2011 1:13:35 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Exactly. It’s only insulting to people who are perenially insulted about something or other.

Would these whiners be insulted if their picture were on a dollar bill? That’s considered a compliment, is it not?


7 posted on 03/13/2011 1:13:46 PM PDT by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
“,,, like forbidding them from displaying or referring to their mascot during athletic events. That is, you may have to keep it, but you can’t use it.”

That's what the NCAA did with Central Michigan University - the Chippewas.

8 posted on 03/13/2011 1:13:46 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Vision

As I understand it, the Sioux license their name and collect revenue.


9 posted on 03/13/2011 1:13:54 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: ConservativeStatement

Who got their panties in a wad over this? I’ve heard for years the American Indians never had a problem with it.


10 posted on 03/13/2011 1:14:24 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: bgill

As with most things like this some nanny stater threw a tantrum but in this case those who usually give in decided to openly ignore on it purpose as they should.


11 posted on 03/13/2011 1:18:14 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: freespirited

The Indians are also proud that their names are used for the helicopters in Attack Helicopter units in the U.S. Army.


12 posted on 03/13/2011 1:19:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Look for the union label and just say, NO!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

On this Selection Sunday it’s another timely opportunity to point out that the NCAA long ago exceeded their charter in letter and spirit. They are (and should be) an organizing and sanctioning body for leagues and/or championships but absolute power has had its usual corrupting influence and they now fancy themselves righters of societal wrongs including (gasp) logos and nicknames.

An organization made up of so-called educators was always going to be on the vanguard of the PC movement and they never fail to disappoint.


13 posted on 03/13/2011 1:20:58 PM PDT by relictele
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To: Vision

The whiney little bitches who complain about this are not Indians at all. Indians does whine about things honoring them.


14 posted on 03/13/2011 1:21:16 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: ConservativeStatement
Ok my solution


15 posted on 03/13/2011 1:24:18 PM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: ConservativeStatement

More PC.


16 posted on 03/13/2011 1:31:55 PM PDT by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Tell the NCAA to go crap in their hats.


17 posted on 03/13/2011 1:36:25 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Vision

Please make a note of this: it is not Indians that are “offended” by these nicknames. It is PC liberals. They are using the NCAA to enforce their brand of political correctness on normal people.


18 posted on 03/13/2011 1:39:05 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s been about ten years since Seattle University changed their team name from Chieftans to Redhawks - I don’t know what was offensive about the first one.


19 posted on 03/13/2011 1:57:27 PM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a pit bull.)
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To: gorush

This was given a lot of momentum by the late Myles Brand who ironically fired legendary Coach Bobby Knight when he was president of IU.

> The NCAA (ironically headquartered in Indianapolis, Indiana) are going to be upset.


20 posted on 03/13/2011 2:10:16 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Vision
If Indians don’t like it they can always go back to Asia.

Actually they were from the east coast. They butchered other tribes and then got their backsides handed to them the entire way across to the plains. The other tribes were not particularly fond of them (many are not until this day). They settled in the Dakotas after wiping out the other indigenous tribes there.
21 posted on 03/13/2011 2:15:08 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
But lets make Notre Dame get rid of that Fighting Irish nickname and that insulting little mascot.

On the behalf of my G-G grandfather who came from Ireland, I have a right to be offended -- especially if I can make some money from being offended.

And if you don't like it, then put you're dukes up.

22 posted on 03/13/2011 2:19:14 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: PA Engineer
Actually they were from the east coast.

You think they grew out of the ground?
23 posted on 03/13/2011 2:41:03 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: gorush

The vote was 28-15 with four senators absent and not voting,

Wanna bet the four were RATS?


24 posted on 03/13/2011 2:45:52 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Vision

Colorado needs similar legislation to protect their own “Fighting Whites” team name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Whites

Team booster shirts are still available! http://www.cafepress.com/fightinwhite


25 posted on 03/13/2011 2:48:16 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: FlingWingFlyer

My grandfather was a full-blood Dakota Sioux — his favorite NFL team? Washington Redskins - his son’s favorite team?
Washington Redskins!!

Truly amazing is it not?


26 posted on 03/13/2011 2:48:32 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Mr. Wright

It is amazing how many Indians love the Washington Redskins. I see Navajos everyday wearing Redskins or Cleveland Indian ball caps. The libbies need to find something more constructive to do with their time.


27 posted on 03/13/2011 2:51:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Look for the union label and just say, NO!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I was really hoping the Fighting Whiteys had a chance if the name was going to be changed.


28 posted on 03/13/2011 3:19:11 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Yet Florida State keeps the Seminole name. Could it be all the sales of Fl State gear that the NCAA gets a cut of?
29 posted on 03/13/2011 3:19:40 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a blessing to live in the Ozarks.)
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To: Vision
If Indians don’t like it they can always go back to Asia.

I don't think it was the Indians, per se.

Although the proper name for those tribes is the Lakota people. Sioux was what their enemies called them. It was not a term of endearment. OTOH, it was a term with a certain amount of respect, since in general those enemies got their asses kicked. :)

30 posted on 03/13/2011 3:40:17 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The Indians are also proud that their names are used for the helicopters in Attack Helicopter units in the U.S. Army

Not just attack helicopters.. all helicopters. Black Hawk, the famous war chief of the Sauk tribe was from the Mississippi Valley. He met with President Jackson. The Chinook are a Northwestern tribe. The UH-1 "Huey" was named the Iroquois. The "Mash" type H-13 (Bell model 47) was none other than the Sioux.


31 posted on 03/13/2011 3:55:42 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: fungoking
Yet Florida State keeps the Seminole name. Could it be all the sales of Fl State gear that the NCAA gets a cut of?

More like the Chief of the Seminoles coming out in favor of the school continuing to use the name. Slapped the NCAA right upside the head he did. :)

32 posted on 03/13/2011 3:57:20 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

How about The Fighting Irish——is that politically correct?


33 posted on 03/13/2011 3:59:44 PM PDT by Mears
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To: FlingWingFlyer
It is amazing how many Indians love the Washington Redskins. I see Navajos everyday wearing Redskins or Cleveland Indian ball caps. The libbies need to find something more constructive to do with their time.

No lets keep them busy with such relatively trivial things like this.

Might help keep the bastids away from our guns and our money.

34 posted on 03/13/2011 3:59:53 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Comanche leader Bad Eagle’s grandson has something to say about all this:

http://www.badeagle.com/2001/03/07/its-a-warrior-thing/


35 posted on 03/13/2011 4:15:17 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: El Gato

That doesn’t always guarantee the school can keep the name.


36 posted on 03/13/2011 7:33:41 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: FlingWingFlyer
It doesn’t bother any of the Indians that I know. They wear a lot of these logos on their hats and jackets.

Right on. The schools took those names because they recognized that they were proud people with brave, valiant warriors. Using the name is not mockery or a slur; they chose the name because they respected them and their abilities in a virtuous way. It is an honor.

37 posted on 03/13/2011 8:26:20 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Mr. Wright

One of my coworkers is three-quarters Southern Cheyenne and one-quarter Southern Arapaho and he is one of the biggest Redskins fans I’ve ever met. He always takes a week of vacation so he can go over to watch their first week of training camp.


38 posted on 03/13/2011 8:32:13 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

bttt


39 posted on 03/13/2011 8:56:27 PM PDT by xone
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