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Obama calls for agreement on gun control after Giffords shooting
The Hill ^ | March 13, 2011 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 03/13/2011 1:22:14 PM PDT by maggief

President Obama on Sunday called for gun-rights advocates and proponents of gun control to find common ground two months after the shooting which killed six people and wounded 13 others, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.).

The Arizona Daily Star published an op-ed by Obama on Sunday calling for stronger restrictions on gun sales to buyers suspected of mental instability.

“A man our Army rejected as unfit for service; a man one of our colleges deemed too unstable for studies; a man apparently bent on violence, was able to walk into a store and buy a gun,” Obama wrote of Jared Loughner, the man accused of shooting Giffords and 19 other people, six fatally.

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1 posted on 03/13/2011 1:22:17 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

He didn’t call for gun control after Ft. Hood because??


2 posted on 03/13/2011 1:23:20 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: maggief

He’s free to agree with me anytime he wants.


3 posted on 03/13/2011 1:25:07 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: maggief
“A man our Army rejected as unfit for service; a man one of our colleges deemed too unstable for studies; a man apparently bent on violence, was able to walk into a store and buy a gun...”

Hey Obammy....you forgot about, "a man known personally to Sheriff Butt-lick as the result of multiple prior complaints."

Seems to me if we want to prevent these types of shootings in the future we need to make greater efforts to eliminate incestuous nepotism in government at all levels. Howz 'bout dat for 'common ground'?

4 posted on 03/13/2011 1:26:35 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: maggief
“A man our Army rejected as unfit for service; a man one of our colleges deemed too unstable for studies; a man apparently bent on violence, was able to walk into a store and buy a gun,” Obama wrote of Jared Loughner ...

Hey wait, isn't that already illegal? Imagine that, a crook not obeying the law.

5 posted on 03/13/2011 1:27:29 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: maggief

“A man our Army rejected as unfit for service; a man one of our colleges deemed too unstable for studies; a man apparently bent on violence”

Sounds like the Wisconsin unions,the kenyan clown is talking about.


6 posted on 03/13/2011 1:28:12 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: maggief

We’ll come to an agreement that says you keep your grubby little mitts off the Second Amendment, Barack. Just like the Supreme Court said.


7 posted on 03/13/2011 1:28:26 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: maggief

Will anyone ask him about project Gunrunner?


8 posted on 03/13/2011 1:29:23 PM PDT by ColdOne (AZamericonnie took my tagline & won't give it back!":))
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To: maggief

EFFFFFFFFFF YOU zer0


9 posted on 03/13/2011 1:29:25 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: maggief

Here it comes people. I’ve been waiting to see this happen since he was elected. Holder has been putting up trial ballons since the week Obama took office and we know have the POTUS directly addressing the issue.

We need to stop this “reasonable gun control that we can all agree on.”

Stop it dead in its tracks.


10 posted on 03/13/2011 1:29:29 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: maggief

Looks like Obummer is trying to change the subject by ginning up gun control. There is no common ground on gun control between the two parties. You are either for freedom or statist control.


11 posted on 03/13/2011 1:29:29 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Yeah, right. OK, Barry. Sure thing. I've made it No. 1 priority after I reorganize my sock drawer and clear-up my toe nail fungus.

Meanwhile, let's get to the bottom of the ATF trafficking thousands of U.S. guns into Mexico to Mexican drug gangs with DoJ and AG Eric Holder's approval, shall we? [sound of crickets chirping]

12 posted on 03/13/2011 1:30:45 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: maggief

What a lazy bum; he let this crisis go to waste for over a month now? Is he falling apart without Rahm around to instruct him? What gives? If Zero were on the ball he would have jumped on the gun-gabbing-bandwagon within a news cycle of the shooting.


13 posted on 03/13/2011 1:31:07 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: maggief

Muzzie control, border control, idiot control....that’s what I want...a gun toting society is a polite society


14 posted on 03/13/2011 1:31:13 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Unlike the West, the Islamic world is serious.)
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To: maggief

I agree! Everyone should use both hands while aiming.


15 posted on 03/13/2011 1:31:45 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: maggief

Maybe we could make a new law and tie it in to the motor-voter laws. You know, at the time of registering to vote, anyone who is mentally deranged (identifiable by registering as a democrat)is too mentally unstable for weapons ownership.


16 posted on 03/13/2011 1:31:55 PM PDT by 2dollarbill
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To: maggief

“We Must” I see he is musting me again??? We must or what??? I really really dislike this guy.


17 posted on 03/13/2011 1:32:13 PM PDT by ColdOne (AZamericonnie took my tagline & won't give it back!":))
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To: maggief

Sorry Comrade Barak- with gun control there can be no agreement.


18 posted on 03/13/2011 1:33:05 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: maggief

“It is every man’s duty to at all times be armed.”-Jefferson


19 posted on 03/13/2011 1:33:16 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (For the first time in my adult life, I'm scared of my government.)
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To: MasterGunner01

I’m betting that Obama has plenty of buddies that “carry”...In fact, I’ll bet half his staff is armed and his Chicago home is an “Armory”.


20 posted on 03/13/2011 1:33:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: maggief

The laws we have, if enforced, would have made sure that this nutty fool could not have acquired a firearm. Anyone who has ever filled out the paperwork knows that.

It is a matter of tragic hilarity that national socialists get the simplest facts mixed up in their most grandiose statements.

And what a day to think about guns and golf!

Hell, I LOVE guns and golf, but was worried about Japan, about which I know or usually care precious little, all day.

I guess that makes me an insensitive, uncaring conservative.


21 posted on 03/13/2011 1:33:37 PM PDT by golux
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To: maggief

During the last two years, Obama has personally sold 28,000,000 guns in the US. Salesman of the year for two years straight and he looks to make it a trifecta with this marketing effort.


22 posted on 03/13/2011 1:33:49 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: maggief

Cooperate with Dems on gun control?

In a pig’s eye!


23 posted on 03/13/2011 1:33:55 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Destroy Mecca and you kill Allah!")
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To: maggief

what an A$$hole BO is


24 posted on 03/13/2011 1:35:11 PM PDT by Mr. K (Job #1 DEFUND THE LEFT then Palin/Bachman 2012 -Unbeatable Ticket~!)
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To: maggief

Speaking of Gabrielle Giffords, let me be the first cold hearted conservative to bring this up.

When does her disability leave end? After 6 months, a year, two years, 7 years... never?? How much brain recovery is acceptable for her to continue to serve?

How long must the People go without a representative?

Granted, Giffords brain activity likely already exceeds most of her democratic peers, such as Reid and Pelosi, but come on already!


25 posted on 03/13/2011 1:35:24 PM PDT by Gator113 (I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Sacajaweau

The Fort Hood MUZZIE Shooter is one of “his people”! Some day soon he’ll have AG Holder look into it. We need a Gen. Patton type leader!


26 posted on 03/13/2011 1:35:51 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: maggief

How about we make it against the law to murder somebody. Oh, wait............


27 posted on 03/13/2011 1:36:09 PM PDT by wrench
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To: maggief
...an op-ed by Obama on Sunday calling for stronger restrictions on gun sales to buyers suspected of mental instability.

Obama's definition of mental instability:

- Member of TEA Party
- Sarah Palin supporter
- Gadsden bumper sticker
- Talk radio listener and/or FoxNews viewer
- etc, etc, etc

28 posted on 03/13/2011 1:36:13 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: maggief

Op ed:

http://azstarnet.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_011e7118-8951-5206-a878-39bfbc9dc89d.html


29 posted on 03/13/2011 1:36:23 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Stuff it Barry! It is MY Constitution, NOT YOURS! Go play your gun control bullsh*t over in Kenya or Indonesia.


30 posted on 03/13/2011 1:37:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Look for the union label and just say, NO!)
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To: maggief
The perfect compromise:

Those who believe in gun control should not be allowed to have guns.

31 posted on 03/13/2011 1:38:10 PM PDT by chopperman
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To: maggief
The Arizona Daily Star published an op-ed by Obama on Sunday calling for stronger restrictions on gun sales to buyers suspected of mental instability.

Oh yeah, that wouldn't be abused. What counts as "mental instability"? Also note that you wouldn't have to be found to be suffering a "mental instability". It would be enough that the government suspects that you so suffer.

As for reaching an agreement, we did in 1791.

32 posted on 03/13/2011 1:38:45 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: maggief
"Buyers suspected of mental instability"?

We don't deprive peple of life, liberty or property based on suspicion, there are guaranteed legal steps which must be taken.

Who would Obama have making decisions? What criteria would be set? Most important, what protections would be in place to prevent abuse?

I'm betting Obama doesn't want to be specific here, he is just rallying his troops and turning them loose against freedom once again.

33 posted on 03/13/2011 1:39:52 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: maggief
Obama wants to be able to deny a Fundamental, God-given right enshrined in our Constitution...based on Government Decree and Fiat.

Not based on an adjudicated finding of insanity.

Take THAT sh!t back to where it came from...the "Ash Heap of History".

So, if a School or the Military don't like you, for any reason of their choosing, you could be denied your Second Amendment Rights.

Yes, it was the JUDGES, PROSECUTORS and Judicial Infrastructure that failed to identify this wing-nut officially...by protected Court Procedure...but that doesn't mean we should lower the threshold for the "finding".

34 posted on 03/13/2011 1:39:58 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: maggief

Gun control advocates can compromise their draconian position all they want. It’s time they did.


35 posted on 03/13/2011 1:39:58 PM PDT by pallis
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To: maggief
AND WHEN ARE QUESTIONS GOING TO BE ASKED ABOUT WHO INTERVIENED TO KEEP THE SHOOTER OUT OF JAIL THE *MANY* TIMES HE WAS DETAINED BY THE POLICE

According to the first reports from Tucson it was because “a family member” worked for the government and “there would be more trouble”

36 posted on 03/13/2011 1:40:27 PM PDT by Mr. K (Job #1 DEFUND THE LEFT then Palin/Bachman 2012 -Unbeatable Ticket~!)
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To: Gator113

There is talk at the Cape that they want to bring her down for her husband’s mission launch.
Great PR for the Zero!


37 posted on 03/13/2011 1:40:27 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: pallis
we will barry you
38 posted on 03/13/2011 1:41:11 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many younger conservative Christians out there? __ Click my name)
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To: elcid1970
Cooperate with Dems on gun control?

It works doesn't it?

After all, there is zero deaths by murder in gun controlled Chicago.

We all need to learn by Daley's achievements in safe and content living.

39 posted on 03/13/2011 1:42:01 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: maggief

never let a crisis go to waste.

Many on here said that he would look at more gun laws and so it begins but where was the outrage from islamic terrorist on our soil using guns?
OH wait that had nothing to do with islam, I mean just because he had cards saying son of Allah, shouted allah akbar and said he did it in the name if islam the left still cannot accept that it was islamic terrorism


40 posted on 03/13/2011 1:42:29 PM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: DTogo

“Obama’s definition of mental instability:

- Member of TEA Party ...”

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/2011/03/obama_gets_laughs_at_first_gri.html

A Gridiron skit had Fake Boehner singing “It’s my party and I’ll cry if I want to,” Lesley Gore-style. (I’m try’n to show them some leadership here / some gravitas and some guts / how did I end up in bed / with all these Tea Party nuts?)


41 posted on 03/13/2011 1:43:27 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

They are still milking the AZ shooting for politics. He should control his gun walker program and union violence and death threats.


42 posted on 03/13/2011 1:45:15 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Gator113
first cold hearted You forgot "cold hearted kiteh eatin'children hatin' conservative"
43 posted on 03/13/2011 1:45:21 PM PDT by ColdOne (AZamericonnie took my tagline & won't give it back!":))
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To: dead

bttt


44 posted on 03/13/2011 1:45:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Gator113

She’s already been conferred with sainthood by the MSM.
I’m assuming her re-election is a given for as long as she desires.

We had a minority Dem here in Indiana (Julia Carson - who was
functionally illiterate and then became senile) who had a permanent House seat until she essentially died on the job.
Then they gave it to her Muslim grandson.

If Giff has 20% brain function remaining, she’ll outdo Julia in the reasoning dept.


45 posted on 03/13/2011 1:48:23 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: maggief
a man apparently bent on violence, was able to walk into a store and buy a gun,

Maybe ATF thought he was taking the gun to Mexico.

46 posted on 03/13/2011 1:49:16 PM PDT by rabidralph ((Mu)Barack must go!)
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To: ColdOne

Yes, and all those things too. LOL


47 posted on 03/13/2011 1:50:02 PM PDT by Gator113 (I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: GOYAKLA

We need a Gen. Patton type leader!

Amen to that!

as a side note when I lived in Maryland I was touring historic St Mary’s city. At the small historic church,There was a beautifully engraved lock box built into the wall by the front doors. I asked what that box was for and was told it was the lock box for Gen Patton’s pistols, because the one place he wouldn’t wear them was in a House of God.


48 posted on 03/13/2011 1:52:17 PM PDT by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: maggief

Hmm.
If he had tried this in the weeks after the shooting, he might have gotten somewhere. A bit late now.


49 posted on 03/13/2011 1:55:55 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: maggief
Standard liberal trope.

Make this argument: "You are too free. There's too much freedom out there, and it's not safe. Let's pass a law that will restrict your freedom just a little, in return for safety."

Then, liberals on the executive side don't enforce the law.

After a few years pass, and the promised "safety" never materializes, they simply act like the first law was never passed, and repeat the cycle.

If someone brings up the fact that they already restricted freedoms a few years ago and no good came of it, they reply by saying "so what are you saying, that we should have no laws at all?"

At that point, our side doesn't know what to say.

50 posted on 03/13/2011 1:57:26 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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