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Kan Warns of High Radiation Level ("Substantial amounts", shelter in place within 30km)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Dateline Tokyo-Tuesday, March 15, 2011 | William Sposato

Posted on 03/14/2011 7:42:56 PM PDT by kristinn

TOKYO—Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan said Tuesday that there is a high risk of elevated levels of radiation from a reactor at the Fukushima nuclear power plant where an explosion occurred earlier in the day, and urged people within 30 kilometers of the plant to stay indoors.

"Substantial amounts of radiation are leaking in the area," Mr. Kan said on television at 11 a.m. in Tokyo. "We are making utmost efforts to prevent further explosions or the release of radioactive materials," he said.

Early Tuesday morning local time, authorities said that an explosion inside part of the No. 2 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant appeared to have caused damage to the unit, and some staff were evacuated from the facility as radiation levels at the site rose sharply.

Mr. Kan began his address by asking people to be calm about the situation. He said that the government is doing everything it can to prevent further radiation leaks.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: disinformation; japan; kan; radiation
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1 posted on 03/14/2011 7:42:58 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=3

live stream from japan with english translation


2 posted on 03/14/2011 7:44:43 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: kristinn

RUH-ROH


3 posted on 03/14/2011 7:45:20 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama, Ayers, Dohrn, Trumka: birds of a feather.)
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To: kristinn

the [nuclear plant] situation has developed not necessarily to Japan’s advantage


4 posted on 03/14/2011 7:48:58 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I'd crawl over broken glass for her. Alea iacta est.)
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To: tutstar

Prayers up.


5 posted on 03/14/2011 7:54:17 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: kristinn

God Bless them all.


6 posted on 03/14/2011 7:59:12 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: kristinn

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fukushima-core

http://www.atomicinsights.com/pdf_files/SciencePaper-9.02.pdf

http://atomicinsights.blogspot.com/2011/03/nuclear-plant-issues-in-japan-are-least.html

informative articles, explains the “worst case” in case the reactor core containment is breached

informative articles, especially the second one, explains the “worst case” in case the reactor core containment is breached


7 posted on 03/14/2011 8:00:30 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Jim Noble
the [nuclear plant] situation has developed not necessarily to Japan’s advantage

That statement was composed by Japan's only "Living National Treasure" in the art of understatement.

8 posted on 03/14/2011 8:03:04 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: kristinn

ap on yahoo

Japan: New radiation leaks harmful to health
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake_nuclear_crisis

SOMA, Japan – Radiation is spewing from damaged reactors at a crippled nuclear power plant in tsunami-ravaged northeastern Japan in a dramatic escalation of the 4-day-old catastrophe. The prime minister has warned residents to stay inside or risk getting radiation sickness.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said Tuesday that a fourth reactor at the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex was on fire and that more radiation was released


9 posted on 03/14/2011 8:03:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: kristinn

He said everyone within 20km Should EVACUATE...


10 posted on 03/14/2011 8:03:39 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Democrats Outforced America's Jobs for 40 Years. Now The Bill Is Due)
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To: All

Cnbc world saying it’s the fire at 4 causing the problems. Unclear if spent rods are burning in reactor or hard storage either way they’re saying that’s causing the worst of the radiation problems. No source given.


11 posted on 03/14/2011 8:04:14 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: kristinn

Plastic sheeting and duct tape time....


12 posted on 03/14/2011 8:04:35 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: NormsRevenge
NHK English, streaming
13 posted on 03/14/2011 8:07:03 PM PDT by glock rocks (I am Dyslexis of Borg. Your ass will be laminated.)
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To: janetjanet998

Fox, MSNBC, CNN and CNBC all in reruns now. Grrrr...


14 posted on 03/14/2011 8:08:57 PM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: kristinn

Markets are not reacting well.


15 posted on 03/14/2011 8:23:37 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: kristinn

Looks like the plant has gone full Wormwood now.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/14/third-explosion-at-japanese-nuclear-plant-possible-damage-to-containment-vessel/

Poor Japan.


16 posted on 03/14/2011 8:24:03 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: glock rocks

Yup I’m watching it right now


17 posted on 03/14/2011 8:24:08 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: kristinn

Thanks. Will paste Sheltering in Place info from exSoldier’s thread from a while back, tho’ it speaks of a nuke attack, the actual info would apply now. Link at end.

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Sheltering in Place, how to handle radiation exposure.
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... your real problem is the radioactive dust that the blast threw into the air. ... eventually expose 200,000 people to lethal doses of radiation if they stay exposed and unprotected in the fallout path for 24 hours. Sitting downwind in gridlock, with your vehicle’s windshield shattered, goes a long way toward giving you a lethal dose. All sorts of simple alternatives — moving away from downwind, seeking proper shelter, even taking a shower — go a long way toward saving you.
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Fallout is simply radioactive dust, launched miles into the air in a mushroom cloud and then carried on the wind. Much of it is alpha particles, whose radiation cannot penetrate bare skin, or beta particles, which cannot penetrate layers of clothing. Both are most dangerous if inhaled — or if they settle on food that is eaten unwashed. More deadly are the gamma rays, whose radiation can go through walls. But even gammas cannot hurt you from cloud height. The danger starts when the dust settles to earth.
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The ideal is to avoid the fallout in the first place. In apocalyptic gridlock, you cannot drive very far. But you may not have to. Normal winds blow the cloud into a long but narrow plume, just a few miles across. In typical Washington-area weather, Virginia, Montgomery County in Maryland, and most of the District itself are not in the fallout path at all. People in the path could conceivably walk out of the fallout zone in the 10 or 15 minutes before the dust begins to fall — if they know which way to go.
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But, of course, you cannot count on perfectly typical weather. The wind might shift; the breeze you feel at ground level may be blowing crosswise to the radioactive clouds five miles up; a still day might cause the fallout to seep outward slowly in all directions; sudden rain or snow could wash the dust out of the sky, heavily dousing everything beneath the storm but sparing areas farther out.
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If you do not want to trust in weather and traffic, the alternative is what the experts call “sheltering in place.” You want to be in a building, as solid as possible to block the gamma rays, as airtight as possible to keep out radioactive dust. You need to turn off air conditioning, close vents, seal the seams around windows and doorways. If you wondered what former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge was talking about, this is what you need the duct tape for. Abandon rooms with windows broken by the blast.
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The dust that does not seep into the building will settle outside, on the roof and on the ground, emitting gamma rays. A car with an intact windshield stops 30 to 50 percent of the radiation — probably not enough, however, to save someone who’s inside the car and stuck in traffic a few miles downwind of ground zero. A wood-frame house, similarly, stops just 30 to 60 percent of gamma rays. A windowless basement stops 90 percent. The middle floors of a concrete apartment building, safely away from both roof and ground, stop 99 percent or more. But there is no 100 percent protection.
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For those whom evacuation and shelter fail — or for those, like the thousands fleeing in blind panic, who never try either — there is still decontamination. A lethal dose of radiation takes time to build. The sooner the radioactive dust is off the skin, the better. And it is not that hard to remove. “Radiation contamination is easier than chemical,” said Col. David Jarrett, a medical doctor and the director of the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute in Bethesda. “Simply removing the clothes and washing takes off up to 90 percent.”
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Every major Washington-area hospital has some decontamination facilities, but 10,000 radiation patients in one day would swamp them. So mass decontamination falls to fire departments, with their mobile pumps and generators; their protective gear; their hazardous-materials experience; and, because both Maryland and Virginia have nuclear power reactors, their years of radiation training. Area firefighters can quickly set up special decontamination tents, and they have plans to take over buildings that have lots of showers — so high school gyms, for example, are a good place to head for. In the chaos of those first hours, said Michael Cline, state coordinator at the Virginia Department of Emergency Management, “the real key is to make sure people go to those facilities.” It will take every firefighter available to man the decontamination sites, and every cop to control the crowds pouring in panic out of the city.
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FOR ENTIRE ARTICLE, GO TO
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NUCLEAR THREAT INITIATIVE [NTI]
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http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/2005_6_24.html#A0F258F9
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http://www.nti.org/index.html
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REFERENCE LINK:
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429926/posts


18 posted on 03/14/2011 8:24:57 PM PDT by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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To: kristinn
Looks like NHK World TV may be getting ready for some special live announcement. They have a screen up saying please wait a moment.
19 posted on 03/14/2011 8:26:31 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tcrlaf

They evacuated everyone within 20 km a day or two ago, I thought.


20 posted on 03/14/2011 8:26:38 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Free Vulcan

Nikkei futures down 16%. All hell is breaking loose.


21 posted on 03/14/2011 8:38:40 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Most futures are now well off their lows.


22 posted on 03/14/2011 8:46:42 PM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I’m actually kind of surprised how well the market has held up. We are just reaching the lows from the Egypt crisis at the end of January. We hit the recent highs 3 weeks after that.

We could fall quite a bit farther before breaking the integrity of the uptrend from the ‘09 bottom.


23 posted on 03/14/2011 8:52:19 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Relocate the entire population of Japan to America. With their work ethic and discipline and intelligence they can and will revitalize our deteriorating culture and political process. They will be a force to reckon with as they assimilate and counter entrenched liberalism. I have a feeling they will know instinctively how to handle Mexico and the threat it presents to the U.S. as well as the threat from Islamic extremism. This could be a blessing in disguise for America, or, to put it another way, the Lord sometimes works in strange ways.


24 posted on 03/14/2011 8:53:35 PM PDT by 4Runner (didate)
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To: kristinn

25 posted on 03/14/2011 8:54:52 PM PDT by newzjunkey (603 days until election Nov 2012.)
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To: newzjunkey

Thanks.


26 posted on 03/14/2011 8:56:14 PM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: FreedomPoster

They did. It’s 30km now.


27 posted on 03/14/2011 8:56:33 PM PDT by newzjunkey (603 days until election Nov 2012.)
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To: 4Runner

BTTT


28 posted on 03/14/2011 9:03:26 PM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: 4Runner

I agree — but I also would expect that many of them would rather stay in their homeland and stick it out, to the death if need be. They are likely that fiercely proud.

But I’d welcome them here. I’d welcome a family into my home if need be. I wish I could do something more to help then send off some donation or watch them starve.


29 posted on 03/14/2011 9:17:32 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: 4Runner
Relocate the entire population of Japan to America.

Switch them out with all the illegals.

30 posted on 03/14/2011 9:18:43 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: All; kristinn
Some good news: the Number II plant has safely shutdown all reactors, all trouble is at the Number I plant

20km-30km are "evacuation in place" - stay inside, close windows, don't run your a/c and heater, don't bring laundry inside, wash clothes you were wearing out.


31 posted on 03/14/2011 9:19:59 PM PDT by newzjunkey (602 days until election Nov 2012.)
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To: newzjunkey

No they are still having issues with Reactor 4 at plant two according to a recent IAEA press release. I as well thought everything was under control there?

“Japanese authorities yesterday reported to the IAEA at 21:05 CET that the reactors Units 1, 2 and 3 of the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant are in cold shutdown status. This means that the pressure of the water coolant is at around atmospheric level and the temperature is below 100 degrees Celsius. Under these conditions, the reactors are considered to be safely under control.

Japanese authorities have also informed the IAEA that teams of experts from Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), the plant´s operator, are working to restore cooling in the reactor Unit 4 and bring it to cold shutdown.”

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html


32 posted on 03/14/2011 9:39:21 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: kristinn
Not to be a smart ass, because I do hate to see this happen to anyone but didn't we leave a whole lot of radiation after we nuked them?

And before you flame me, I can't help wonder what the remaining WWII vets think about our Navy “Helping”

And/or how many Americans know what political party the President was in when we dropped those bombs...

BTW - I'm glad he did and we should be proud.

33 posted on 03/14/2011 9:48:35 PM PDT by Driver32 (I like airplane noise)
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To: LibsRJerks

God bless you!


34 posted on 03/14/2011 9:53:43 PM PDT by tanuki (O-voters: wanted Uberman, got Underdog....)
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To: kristinn

Kyodo: 18 km no-fly zone over strickened nuclear site.


35 posted on 03/14/2011 9:54:01 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

CNBC: Tokyo NOT considering telling people to stay indoors after trace amounts of radiation detected there.


36 posted on 03/14/2011 10:10:34 PM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: Driver32

They’ll recover from the nuclear portion of the disaster just fine. Hiroshima and Nagasaki individually were far worse than the worst-case scenario for that N-plant. It’s the shattered infrastructure, over 10,000 dead, and the possibility of another big earthquake during the recovery itself that is a far greater threat.

If this had happened in 2020 instead of 2011 they would’ve had the much safer planned reactors 7 & 8 on-line and the 30-40 year-old reactors 1-4 would’ve been already defueled and getting dismantled.


37 posted on 03/14/2011 10:18:19 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (ROPERS DELENDA EST!!!)
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To: Driver32

Honestly, what the remaining WWII vets think isn’t relevant to the current political interests of the United States. Not that I expect the current president to act in those interests, but the United States, today, has tremendous areas of overlapping security interests and concerns with the japanese. You have to be blind not to be able to read a map and see where the major security threats to both of us in asia are coming from.

Yes, a democrat dropped the bomb. Not sure what political affiliation has to do with anything so far in the past. Democrats of the 40’s were more conservative than todays republican party. Comparing obama and truman is a laughable exercise, but the joke is on us!

Yes, bombing japan saved countless lives of US soldiers in the bloodbath that home island invasion would have been, and probably saved more japanese lives to boot, though that wasn’t the motivation for it. Only people ignorant of the actual history or unable to get around their nuclear or anti-american neuroses would argue against the use of the bombs. There do appear to be quite a few such people, though. I cannot see how not using the bomb would have benefited either the US or Japan (post-defeat) in any sense whatsoever, and I have wondered about what additional territory Stalin would have been able to annex/acquire/liberate in such a scenario.

As far as radiation, yes, hydrogen bombs caused radiation but it was VERY short-lived, from what I have read. If you were nearby, you died of it, but it was at vastly lower levels pretty quickly. The cities were rebuilt pretty much where they were before as far as I can tell (I have driven close to but not through nagasaki), which says a lot.


38 posted on 03/14/2011 10:34:21 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: silverleaf

From the second article: Sounds pretty benign...

“But we examined worse accidents or
terrorist events that destroy redundant plant
systems inside or outside containment,
rupturing containment penetrations,
producing ground-level, unfiltered releases.
Even in this extreme situation, the
radioactivity remains largely bound in the
fuel.

Condensing water and the physicalchemical
properties of fuel retains most
radioactivity in water and structures (as at
Three Mile Island). Condensing water limits
releases, which are not in readily dispersible
forms, nor do they remain in respirable
forms. This minimizes inhalation hazards.

Spent fuel pool radioactivity has lost the
short-lived and most volatile products and
has insufficient energy to disperse in
hazardous forms. Even hypothesized
zirconium fires would only burn cladding
and structures, external to the fuel, adding
little to the radioactivity release.

In the worst case scenario, near-plant
contamination would warrant evacuation,
but not urgently; there would be time for
evacuation without significant public
health risk. Radioactivity dispersed widely
has lower concentrations, in low-hazard
forms.”


39 posted on 03/14/2011 10:45:29 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (The pendulum is swinging back.)
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To: WoofDog123
> As far as radiation, yes, hydrogen bombs caused radiation but it was VERY short-lived, from what I have read.

Better read again.

The two bombs dropped on Japan at the end of WWII were fission (uranium), not fusion (hydrogen), and they were NOT clean bombs. We hadn't developed that technology yet.

40 posted on 03/14/2011 10:56:28 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Why would staying inside prevent radiation? Is plaster and wood somehow a radiation absorbent that I missed/
41 posted on 03/14/2011 11:22:55 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy

eek......

Breaking : Radiation levels rise in Russian city of Vladivostok, 500 miles northwest of Japanese nuclear plant, but stay within normal


42 posted on 03/15/2011 12:41:12 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: WoofDog123; no-to-illegals; Marine_Uncle; Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

Another long term benefit of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is that for the entire period of the Cold War, Russia believed that mutually assured destruction was not a path to follow. I suspect that if those bombs had not been dropped, Russian reluctance to trigger a nuclear exchange would have been much less. I fear that the world and it’s young leaders are forgetting this. India/Pakistan for example.


43 posted on 03/15/2011 12:52:15 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Rennes Templar
the voices of informed reason need to take over our media reporting asap- lest Japan be further ruined by irresponsible fear mongering

This is a local (national) disaster physically- potentially a steaming dead zone the Japanese will have to manage for long term, affecting millions of people in Japan and possibly some neighboring countries in the prevailing wind pattern

but a global disaster economically if the entire Japanese economy goes off the grid

One bright thought maybe this will kick-start the world (the euro libs, Russians and maybe even the Chinese who benignly work round “sanctions” ) into acting with determination to make sure ideological primitives like Iran and North Korea are stripped of the ability to have nuclear facilities

Imagine North Korea or Iran trying to manage such an “incident”

44 posted on 03/15/2011 5:14:26 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: winoneforthegipper
TEPCO Press Release

Source = http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11031507-e.html

45 posted on 03/15/2011 6:12:09 AM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd

Yes, that is the Daini plant number 2 all the trouble is at plant I.

But while u brought it Reactor 4 at Daini is still not totally okay....in fact there remains a near local evacuation I believe.


46 posted on 03/15/2011 6:37:36 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: kristinn

Japan tells 140 thousand people to seal themselves up in their homes. A no-fly zone is in force around the plants. Plant workers are ordered to leave. Come on, people. NOTHING IS WRONG and everything is UNDER CONTROL. sarc/


47 posted on 03/15/2011 8:01:01 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: dayglored

I stand corrected. That said, the residual radiation apparently didn’t stick around too long at all based on the numbers I found.


48 posted on 03/15/2011 10:09:34 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: gleeaikin

Your reasoning is sound.


49 posted on 03/15/2011 11:29:08 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: All

http://www.radiationnetwork.com/


50 posted on 03/17/2011 2:35:13 AM PDT by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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