Skip to comments.Where Have All the Children Gone? Postmodern secular nations are committing suicide.
Posted on 03/15/2011 7:26:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
So even if there were no God to punish us for the slaughter, reality would still punish us.
Aborting 50 million babies over the years doesn’t help matters much either. Maybe that is the plan.
Our energy needs are too high, our cities are too crowded, our food production is inadequate, we have too many elderly and vulnerable people to take care of, we occupy too much land, it's the wrong land, blah, blah, blah.
At its heart, the Left is obsessed with diminishing the human population. They are a cult of death.
You got that right.
I am doing my part with a third child on the way. That said I fear for what kind of a country they are growing up in.
Good thing God is still in control, even when things look like hell.
The contraceptive/abortive mentality leans heavily left....
It also shifts power to those who DO have children.
They hate people, because their ideological father hates people.
It takes a Village to commit Obamacide.
You're kidding, right? Look at any major city in the U.S. to find hordes of low income children. Many municipalities are being over run with people standing with their hands out.
I don’t know what the answer is. It seems to be that kids are a huge investment, in time, money , resources etc. and in return they are supposed to take care of you when you can no longer work and do for yourself. What’s happened is that governments have stepped in and taken over this function, so instinctively people are avoiding having kids because, what the heck, we don’t need them. People don’t think this on a conscious level but subconsciously. Again this is pure speculation on my part, but it’s the only explanation I can come up with.
The upside in the US is that there are some groups which still have a very high birth rate; fundamental Baptists and Catholics. The Democratic party actually commissioned a study which showed that there base was graying while the conservative base was actually getting younger.
In addition to the loss of aborted babies, higher taxes mean couples both have to work and can’t afford to have as many children. The left is killing us every time we turn around.
A galling statement
and at a subconscious level,
probably driving a lot of
Whereas, I agree that our reproduction rate is a concern, it's worth noting the infant mortality rate has declined significantly since the late 18th century, as has the mortality rate of children. Comparing rates from the late 18th century to present day needs to take that into account to be meaningful.
No, I am NOT kidding. Look at the groups where more children can be found. These are the groups that will have future power.....for better ...or WORSE.
People living in the West should have more children if we expect our superior set of values, based on Judao-Christianianity and reason to survive. Otherwise there are several inferior value systems which will replace them such as Islamofacism, Multiculturalism, Afrocentrism and Communism.
We just had a thread on here that claimed that the kids born 2001-2011 have more children than the boomers. I can see that as I have seen people having way more than two kids now a days. My parents had 3 children and we have 9 children between us. Many of my high school class has 3 and 4 children. A few even have 5 children.
Agreed but demographics don't lie. Ethnic Russian men have the lowest average life expectancy in a country where the Muslims population is increasing at an alarming rate. 50 years from now, what will the country known as Russia be like?
Ethnic Spaniards in Spain, where Leftist thinking(or lack there of) has taken hold and the birth rate is the lowest in Western Europe, will disappear in three generations.
The liberals think that our planet can only sustain 20 million people, and they should all be liberals. They think that euthenasia and starvation are commendable means of reducing the population. If you want to know why our fertility rates are falling, just watch tv. Young men don’t want the responsibility of children, they want to be children. Look at what happened to the Spears girls after they had children. Where are they? The young bimbettes want to be worshipped and Hollywood doesn’t worship a woman with a baby on her hip.
Islam is a culture which does not innovate, engineer or create anything technologically. They drive cars and fly planes only because they consume off of developed countries.
Were the world to fall to Islam, there would be massive loss of life due to war and starvation, followed by the various nations falling into primitive technology and primal culture as it was 1500 years ago following the fall of Rome.
We are doing our part, 5 kids so far. I have drawn a simple chart to show my children how Christians can have a multi-generational impact on our culture. If we were to have 2 children, who then each had 2 children, we would have 6 votes (adding the two generations) to impact the direction of our nation’s policy.
If we were to have 10 children who then each had 10 children, we would have 110 votes to impact the direction of our nation’s policy.
It’s a greatly simplified example for my children, but I believe there is a reason that God consistently told his people to be fruitful and multiply...even when they were taken into captivity. If you want your culture to survive, you can’t allow your population to shrink.
The secular documentary “Demographic Winter” is a must watch movie on this topic. If there were any real journalists left in the USA, this coming crisis would be making headlines across the country.
We're living longer than ever before simply because a lot of the things that used to kill us in our teens, our twenties, our thirties, etc. either don't affect us anymore or are treated easily through modern medicine.
I heard some futurist on the radio a few years ago, and he said that one of the defining characteristics of this modern age is that something like 99% of the population will die as a result of whatever they were genetically predisposed to die of.
My circle has lots. 4 for me, 4 for my best friend, 3 for my doctor friend. We are rural southerners.
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Well, I’m doing my part with my third child on the way. What gets me are the yuppy career women that waited and waited to have kids until their late 30’s. They shunted their reproductive cycles with chemicals for years, and now they expect to get pregnant easily. Maybe they had an abortion in their late teens or early 20’s.
I’m not religous and never go to church. I could not be more pro-life. I know too many Catholic and Jewish girls who’ve had abortions. No sympathy for them as they try and have kids later in life. Too bad, the world needs more white people. Sounds bad, but it’s true.
If people born between 2001 and 2011 have children already, there is something deeply, seriously, wrong going on.
I agree that many men want to be/are children. Also, it is very costly now to have them.
We have had 5 children too! I often chuckle at the notion of “not being able to afford them.” With the help of God and hard work, all needs were amply provided for.
As an aside for non-believers: NO, we do not support *indiscriminate” procreation. We believe in cooperating with the Divine Will.
Costly to have men? You’d better believe it! None of my kids bought a $35,000 pickup truck!
If China put in a Social Security system, and quit brutalizing citizens - birth rates would go down. The best 'social security' in third world countries currently is still 'sons'...
There’s also a book you might want to read: CHILDREN OF MEN by PD James. It’s fiction, but it demonstrates the natural outcome of foolish and/or evil thinking.
My four are planning at least four each and after having old parents like me they want to start their families early and have many. I am helping out by providing them with land towards their houses.
Well, the muzzies NEED a lot of kids. They use them up like .22 shorts.
Bless you! We also had 3 children (wish I had gone on to have at least one more). We now have 5 grandchildren and one on the way. It’s sad that government policies make it so expensive to have large families. We not only have to support our own families, but we pay taxes to support irresponsible people who have children they cannot support.
Its taxes. the Western socialist democracies tax their residents beyond the ability to raise children. It return for which , they “promise” to care for you in your old age.
A large family assures that at least one child will be there to provides for your care and comfort as you age.
follow the cash trail..always...when nothing else makes sense.
“... higher taxes mean couples both have to work and can’t afford children”.
Not that long ago, Dad’s could work and Mom would stay at home with the kids. They were still able to afford a vacation and have a good life. With the tax situation, parents are forced to deal with childcare issues and other problems never really dealt with before. As a result, fewer children are born to parents who want to give their kid’s an average life. IMHO
Uh ... those results may have been true in 1977, but not today!
Their base of white liberals is shrinking due to demographic issues and them abandoning the Dem party. However, all of the assorted ethnic groups that are considered “diversity candidates” are breeding like rabbits on fertility drugs. In other words, the LaRaza contingent will take over the dem party, along with CAIR, NAACP, etc. and end up being the majority of the US population.
Sounds like a good read, I’ll look for it here.
I know that 5 children is considered a “large” family, but I don’t feel like we are, maybe if we have 6 ;-)? My parents worry that my husband and I have done the most foolish thing on the planet—inviting poverty into our lives, yet they love each one of our children. God continues to provide our daily bread, somehow we keep everyone fed and clothed.
We have 5 girls. (Czech/Italian ancestry.)
I have never felt it was “large” either. However, when the children were smaller, I was always asked (with some sense of incredulity), “Are they ALL yours?.” Lol!
Everyone helps and supports each other. Are there difficulties? Of COURSE....but if we had no problems...we’d never grow and mature. Our children are all grown now and all contribute very positively to society...and we are a close family.
By the way, when the relatives give you the “poverty meme”, remind them that the Son of God chose to be born into what was considered “poverty.”
Same with women.
We are quite a spectacle in the grocery store, one cart for the baby in the carseat, one for groceries, and two “shopper in training” carts for my little girls. Six people and a procession of four carts. We are like our own little parade through Cub Foods.
lol. Wow....that was not expressed correctly at all.
Bingo. This is why I have only one child....
I can provide for my one child a pretty good lifestyle, upbringing ang education. I would have to decrease what I can offer each child for every other I have besides my wife and I have very little time. I work two jobs (1 full 1 part)and she works a fulltime and goes to school part-time.
Our parents and many baby boomers were the ones to reep the rewards of the bubble-burst-bubble economies. They bought their first house for $14,000 sold it for $32,000,built there second home for $26,000 and sold it for $230,000, built their third home for $135,000 and just sold it for $198,000. Most of us today won’t see that kind of returns in our lifetime.
I am so upside down on the my home that I won’t see anything like the growth they experienced for many years if ever. Can’t sell or refinance. If the need ever arises to have to relocate for work we are screwed. Our mobility is lost for many years to come. I really wish I had looked at a home as shelter and not get caught up in the investment hype. Oh well.
Anyway, yup, I love being a father but relistically I can’t bring another child into this world. Can’t afford it and don’t want to bring them into the misery headed our way.
Wow! 5 girls...We’re hoping for a girl. I have two sons and my brother has 3 sons. No girls yet for any of the grandparents. We’ll find out the sex this Thursday. Just healthy is all I care about...
Look at what both Pharaoh & Herod did to babies under age 2. They're all in the same league.
I have 5 kids and money has been tight due to the economy too. But the scenario you’re talking about is the same scenario most people are in. Yet they still have more than 1 kid. It’s just a cop out. It really is. Everybody is busy. Making more money so you can have more “stuff” is fleeting. If you’re truly serious about doing your part for the future of the country, then you’ll have more kids. Otherwise, it’s just talk. That’s your responsibility to produce more good productive people. At just 1 kid, you have no legacy. It takes at least 2 kids to replace your family. When you’re gone, your child will be the lone representative of your family.
We’ve contemplated the idea of adopting maybe 2 boys from Russia.
I’ll say something else about this issue. When you have a bunch of kids and you walk into some place, you suddenly become the majority there and have more power. Your kids have siblings that can come to their aid. You as an elderly person will have the benefit of having a bunch of kids to help, assuming you raised them right.
Grew up with three siblings. I agree with you. My wife is an only child and we are the care fivers for seven octogenarians; aunts and uncles who never married. My side of the family has a lot less elder stress. It is worth having more kids. I will have someone to clean up after me when I am old.
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